Hafnia Posted March 23, 2021 Report Share Posted March 23, 2021 10 minutes ago, StevO said: I’ve never seen him, but if he is really one of the best centre backs in the world and we can get him then we should. We should always buy better where possible. That said, not bothered if we don’t, I like our centre halves, and this shouldn’t be at the expense of some other positions that need to be strengthened. For me centre half and centre mid is where we need 2 players of pure alpha male leadership and quality. Allan is the man in the middle of the park and koulibaily could be that man at the back. It could be that Godfrey becomes a right back - let's face it he can play most positions by the looks of things but his ability to charge up the pitch can be an asset at full back. Koulibaily is another statement signing. . Getting him in will make it easier to get other targets in too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dunlopp9987 Posted March 23, 2021 Report Share Posted March 23, 2021 1 minute ago, Hafnia said: For me centre half and centre mid is where we need 2 players of pure alpha male leadership and quality. Allan is the man in the middle of the park and koulibaily could be that man at the back. It could be that Godfrey becomes a right back - let's face it he can play most positions by the looks of things but his ability to charge up the pitch can be an asset at full back. Koulibaily is another statement signing. . Getting him in will make it easier to get other targets in too. Goes to show how versatile and valuable Godfrey has been for us this year: I had forgotten that he's naturally right-footed. Hadn't even thought of him as potentially being the solution at right back Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted March 23, 2021 Report Share Posted March 23, 2021 yes i meant 3 players at 30m each. how is this guy only 39m? last year he was 90m asking price. either something happened (end of contract?), or the journo is talking shite. how does his price halve? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dunlopp9987 Posted March 23, 2021 Report Share Posted March 23, 2021 14 minutes ago, markjazzbassist said: yes i meant 3 players at 30m each. how is this guy only 39m? last year he was 90m asking price. either something happened (end of contract?), or the journo is talking shite. how does his price halve? Covid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted March 23, 2021 Report Share Posted March 23, 2021 17 minutes ago, dunlopp9987 said: Covid the owner is a notorious hardass and gets max value for his players, i believe he is very wealthy on top of that. unless there is some financial crisis there i'll have to see it to believe it. at 39m it's a good deal, even i would take that and i don't think we need another CB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted March 23, 2021 Report Share Posted March 23, 2021 1 hour ago, dunlopp9987 said: Goes to show how versatile and valuable Godfrey has been for us this year: I had forgotten that he's naturally right-footed. Hadn't even thought of him as potentially being the solution at right back No no no ..... You don't spend £20m on a centre half and play him elsewhere! Sorry couldn't resist. Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted March 23, 2021 Report Share Posted March 23, 2021 36 minutes ago, markjazzbassist said: the owner is a notorious hardass and gets max value for his players, i believe he is very wealthy on top of that. unless there is some financial crisis there i'll have to see it to believe it. at 39m it's a good deal, even i would take that and i don't think we need another CB. He was a hardarse with Allan till Allan basically told him "I'm not leaving for any club other than Everton" which got his price down Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Btay Posted March 27, 2021 Report Share Posted March 27, 2021 £43 million is the fee required apparently. It’s a lot of money no doubt but he is one of the best in the world in his position. If we got £20/15 million for Holgate it would be a no brainer in my opinion. duncanmckenzieismagic 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted March 27, 2021 Report Share Posted March 27, 2021 8 minutes ago, Btay said: £43 million is the fee required apparently. It’s a lot of money no doubt but he is one of the best in the world in his position. If we got £20/15 million for Holgate it would be a no brainer in my opinion. That's a bargain really, he's a player who can set the standard for the defence. A mentor to the younger players. Ideally we wouldn't need to buy him but we are in the position where statement signings will improve our appeal to players in other positions. duncanmckenzieismagic 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Btay Posted March 27, 2021 Report Share Posted March 27, 2021 26 minutes ago, Hafnia said: That's a bargain really, he's a player who can set the standard for the defence. A mentor to the younger players. Ideally we wouldn't need to buy him but we are in the position where statement signings will improve our appeal to players in other positions. It’s a lot of money still in this economic climate but 3/4 years of his prime would be immense for us. Especially while Godfrey continues to develop into what I have no doubts will be a very very good player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted March 27, 2021 Report Share Posted March 27, 2021 B-b-b-but, there’s no sell on value! Hafnia, Shukes, StevO and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted March 27, 2021 Report Share Posted March 27, 2021 Touted as one of the best in the world, if he chooses to come here what a message that would send out to the rest of Europe, players that help teams become successful generally cover their costs through the position the team advances to, and merchandising sales and sponsor deals. As a supporter I want to see the best players in the world play for us, am I worried about what he costs not really just get him here. duncanmckenzieismagic, Hafnia and StevO 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BedfordBlue Posted March 27, 2021 Report Share Posted March 27, 2021 Nothing wrong with the 4 centre backs we have need a right back better off spending money in positions that need strengthening London Blue 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Btay Posted March 28, 2021 Report Share Posted March 28, 2021 5 hours ago, BedfordBlue said: Nothing wrong with the 4 centre backs we have need a right back better off spending money in positions that need strengthening I’d swap Holgate or Mina in heartbeat for this fella though. Not an urgent priority in the window but if we can get 2/3 in plus this deal that’s a huge window. dunlopp9987 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted March 28, 2021 Report Share Posted March 28, 2021 13 hours ago, BedfordBlue said: Nothing wrong with the 4 centre backs we have need a right back better off spending money in positions that need strengthening 100% agree that we are well stocked at CB,especially if you throw Gibson and Branthwaite into the mix, and so other areas are more important but if there is even the slightest chance of getting a player in of Koulibalys calibre then we absolutely have to take that chance for all the reasons others have stated Getting James was a huge coup and raised the profile of the club immeasurably but getting one of the best CB in the world in his prime would even top that for me Btay, Shukes and Palfy 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted March 29, 2021 Report Share Posted March 29, 2021 https://www.teamtalk.com/news/ancelotti-mina-double-gripe-everton-plan-koulibaly-transfer Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted March 29, 2021 Report Share Posted March 29, 2021 27 minutes ago, Romey 1878 said: https://www.teamtalk.com/news/ancelotti-mina-double-gripe-everton-plan-koulibaly-transfer Mina had improved quite a bit but I wouldn’t hesitate to use him as a part ex Btay, Hafnia and Romey 1878 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete0 Posted March 29, 2021 Report Share Posted March 29, 2021 But the source says that while Ancelotti ‘admires’ the 26-year-old, the manager believes deep down that he is ‘too erratic and error-prone’ to play for a top-tier side. The source, aka the writer of this article. Why not just say in their opinion it would be good for both parties. Fucking needless lies do my head in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted March 29, 2021 Report Share Posted March 29, 2021 A part of me wonders why he is still at Napoli. If he was really one of the best CB's in world football, why isn't he at one of those elite clubs already? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted March 29, 2021 Report Share Posted March 29, 2021 2 hours ago, Bailey said: A part of me wonders why he is still at Napoli. If he was really one of the best CB's in world football, why isn't he at one of those elite clubs already? Because the asking price has always been astronomical? Btay, Sibdane and markjazzbassist 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibdane Posted March 29, 2021 Report Share Posted March 29, 2021 1 hour ago, Matt said: Because the asking price has always been astronomical? Agreed -- seems like Napoli has essentially priced him out of a move since he's been there. markjazzbassist 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Btay Posted March 30, 2021 Report Share Posted March 30, 2021 20 hours ago, Matt said: Mina had improved quite a bit but I wouldn’t hesitate to use him as a part ex Same. I like Mina but he isn’t a world class CB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted March 31, 2021 Report Share Posted March 31, 2021 On 29/03/2021 at 17:29, Matt said: Because the asking price has always been astronomical? If VVD went for £75 mil and Dias for 68 million euros, the figure seems in the right kind of ball park for someone who is regarded as one of the best CB's in world football. No-one was suggesting Dias was anywhere near that calibre but a deal was done for not much less than the touted fee for this lad. Maybe he just didn't want to leave as he was being managed by some good managers and he was playing every week, including in the Champions League. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted March 31, 2021 Report Share Posted March 31, 2021 16 minutes ago, Bailey said: If VVD went for £75 mil and Dias for 68 million euros, the figure seems in the right kind of ball park for someone who is regarded as one of the best CB's in world football. No-one was suggesting Dias was anywhere near that calibre but a deal was done for not much less than the touted fee for this lad. Maybe he just didn't want to leave as he was being managed by some good managers and he was playing every week, including in the Champions League. But there was a time he was £90m+ If I remember correctly but anyways, that was then and this is now Btay and markjazzbassist 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted March 31, 2021 Report Share Posted March 31, 2021 4 hours ago, Bailey said: If VVD went for £75 mil and Dias for 68 million euros, the figure seems in the right kind of ball park for someone who is regarded as one of the best CB's in world football. No-one was suggesting Dias was anywhere near that calibre but a deal was done for not much less than the touted fee for this lad. Maybe he just didn't want to leave as he was being managed by some good managers and he was playing every week, including in the Champions League. Man United allegedly bid £70m in 2019, the year before they rejected a £100m bid from an unnamed club but the chairman said he would sell for £100m if United upped their bid at that time. Apparently Chelsea wanted him but they wouldn't budge on him after sarri jorginho etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted April 10, 2021 Report Share Posted April 10, 2021 https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/carlo-ancelotti-addresses-kalidou-koulibaly-20356799 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted April 10, 2021 Report Share Posted April 10, 2021 2 hours ago, duncanmckenzieismagic said: https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/carlo-ancelotti-addresses-kalidou-koulibaly-20356799 Looks like he's interested then. He never gives anything away. The Gabriel hojberg transfers will be on his mind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted April 10, 2021 Report Share Posted April 10, 2021 1 hour ago, Hafnia said: Looks like he's interested then. He never gives anything away. The Gabriel hojberg transfers will be on his mind. Don't know how you got that from "And so, in that position, we are really covered for the future." London Blue 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted April 10, 2021 Report Share Posted April 10, 2021 2 hours ago, Hafnia said: Looks like he's interested then. He never gives anything away. The Gabriel hojberg transfers will be on his mind. Agreed. He isn’t daft and has been here many times. He isn’t going to throw his strategy out there for others to jump in first. We are covered for the future, but he did say FUTURE, doesn’t mean he isn’t looking for a solid experienced leader back there. Hafnia and dunlopp9987 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted April 10, 2021 Report Share Posted April 10, 2021 1 hour ago, Matt said: Don't know how you got that from "And so, in that position, we are really covered for the future." For the same reason that if I asked my wife if she fancied an Indian Takeaway tonight and she said...... "I love Indian Takeaways but we do have cans of beans in the cupboard"... He's not saying no.... He's essentially giving a non answer to a question he shouldn't answer. pete0 and Gwlad 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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