Shukes Posted November 4, 2017 Report Share Posted November 4, 2017 For the most part, the transfer window was successful. It failed the second we sold Lukaku. We had plenty of time to recruit another. Koeman has a conversation with the board and Walsh and identifys targets. It’s the boards job to get those targets in. It’s a scouts job to identify potential and young players. If the manager wants a specific type of player but has not identified him, then the scout team should be scouring the earth to find that player. He failed! Matt and Romey 1878 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnh Posted November 4, 2017 Report Share Posted November 4, 2017 The problem is, we don't know what went on. It could be that Koeman set his sights on Giroud and didn't want anyone else, so no Plan B. Alternatively, we could have made bids on several strikers, none of which were accepted. The main problem is that we went ahead with the sale of Lukaku before we had a replacement. That must be down to the Board. Matt, markjazzbassist and DavisJD 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcirony Posted November 4, 2017 Report Share Posted November 4, 2017 I don't see any reason why we can't buy a striker now and get him in on Jan 1st... probably won't happen though! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted November 4, 2017 Report Share Posted November 4, 2017 13 hours ago, Gwlad all over said: Just posted on another thread. I think Walsh hit lucky with Leicester signings and probably his stock was not as great as made out. What about at Chelsea then? Lucky there too? 4 hours ago, duncanmckenzieismagic said: If he is just a chief scout why not call him that ? If he doesn’t have any say in who we sign , then what’s the point of having him here ? I have no doubt Koeman had his say in it but for me Walsh should also shoulder some of the blame This is what I dont get. He must have some say but Koeman must have too. There was definitely something not going right at the top. 3 hours ago, nogs said: One way or the other our recruitment policy since Walsh and Koeman came in has been confused at best. A DoF in the continental model chooses who to sign, and determines the style of play for a head coach to implement. If Koeman was deciding on transfers, having a DoF was pointless. Was there a lack of clarity over roles and strategy to add to a possible difference of opinion between the two? Who knows, but there was clearly very little sense and leadership behind who we have been signing Agreed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted November 4, 2017 Report Share Posted November 4, 2017 I really don’t think the club or anyone in it, could have done a single thing about Lukaku leaving. If we would have forced him to stay and took a lower transfer fee next year... it would have been damaging and poisonous for the club. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nogs Posted November 4, 2017 Report Share Posted November 4, 2017 3 hours ago, Shukes said: For the most part, the transfer window was successful. It failed the second we sold Lukaku. We had plenty of time to recruit another. It looked good at the time. But maybe we were all just excited about having money and spending early. With hindsight, we can't say it was successful because most of the signings have been poor and we've been left completely imbalanced. Shukes 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted November 4, 2017 Report Share Posted November 4, 2017 True enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted November 4, 2017 Report Share Posted November 4, 2017 I think there has been a huge problem with the dof role and koeman and kenwright/moshiri in particular. No dof is going to recommend cuco....that was a koeman pick. I think klaasen was too - siggy deffo was a koeman.. Rooney I think was a sentimental signing with all parties may have been ok with. It's a fookin mess. Totally agree with what you are saying regarding Coco, Rooney,Klaassen and Sigurdsson but that doesn’t absolve Walsh of all blame in this fiascoHe is in charge of recruitment , he appoints the scouts and the biggest fuck up of all IMO is not the players we did sign more the players we didn’t Not getting a striker and cover atLB was criminal . Lukaku should never have been allowed to leave until we had a replacement inI’m not for one minute laying all that on Walsh but he is definitely had a part in this cluster fuck Romey 1878 and markjazzbassist 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted November 4, 2017 Report Share Posted November 4, 2017 I really don’t think the club or anyone in it, could have done a single thing about Lukaku leaving. If we would have forced him to stay and took a lower transfer fee next year... it would have been damaging and poisonous for the club.He was under contract , all we had to do was say no, it’s that simpleCoutinho wanted out from the Shite but they stood firm and he is still doing the business for them It will be far more damaging for the club if we get relegated Paddock and markjazzbassist 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted November 4, 2017 Report Share Posted November 4, 2017 19 minutes ago, duncanmckenzieismagic said: He was under contract , all we had to do was say no, it’s that simple Coutinho wanted out from the Shite but they stood firm and he is still doing the business for them It will be far more damaging for the club if we get relegated They also apparently... made a gentleman’s agreement with a Lukaku. I know a lot don’t care about our reputation as a club as long as we win, but I think it’s a big thing sticking to our principles. To go back on that agreement would and a message out to all players considering joining us. Rather we think of the big picture than the next few points. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddock Posted November 4, 2017 Report Share Posted November 4, 2017 40 minutes ago, duncanmckenzieismagic said: He was under contract , all we had to do was say no, it’s that simple Coutinho wanted out from the Shite but they stood firm and he is still doing the business for them It will be far more damaging for the club if we get relegated Exactly- he could sulk alls he wanted- world cup year and if he wanted his dream move he would have had to play. No club in their right mind lets their star player leave without having the replacement through the door AND signed first- it’s an absolute joke we allowed it. markjazzbassist 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted November 4, 2017 Report Share Posted November 4, 2017 1 hour ago, duncanmckenzieismagic said: Totally agree with what you are saying regarding Coco, Rooney,Klaassen and Sigurdsson but that doesn’t absolve Walsh of all blame in this fiasco He is in charge of recruitment , he appoints the scouts and the biggest fuck up of all IMO is not the players we did sign more the players we didn’t Not getting a striker and cover atLB was criminal . Lukaku should never have been allowed to leave until we had a replacement in I’m not for one minute laying all that on Walsh but he is definitely had a part in this cluster fuck Who is to say that they didn't identify targets? I would be amazed if they didn't. Maybe we couldn't get them over the line, which if true, would lay at the boards feet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted November 5, 2017 Report Share Posted November 5, 2017 Koeman spoke about five targets. Didn’t he say 1 and 2 turned us down, and 3,4 and 5 had their clubs asking for stupid money so we pulled out? I’ve always thought 1 and 2 were Giroud and Costa, I’d love to know who the others were. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimmytheJimster Posted November 5, 2017 Report Share Posted November 5, 2017 First time post so go easy. We need to get a proven goalscorer with in the first week of the window opening , or Steve Walsh should be sacked aswell. He's had over 6 months to find a suitable replacement for Lukaku, so we should have one lined up to come straight in because the end of January maybe to late. Matt, Aidan and Sibdane 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted November 5, 2017 Report Share Posted November 5, 2017 10 minutes ago, JimmytheJimster said: First time post so go easy. We need to get a proven goalscorer with in the first week of the window opening , or Steve Walsh should be sacked aswell. He's had over 6 months to find a suitable replacement for Lukaku, so we should have one lined up to come straight in because the end of January maybe to late. Welcome mate. agree with this. They should already be contacting clubs about possible targets and be ready on the first day to pull the trigger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gwlad Posted November 23, 2017 Report Share Posted November 23, 2017 Total waste of money, get rid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swarzy Posted November 23, 2017 Report Share Posted November 23, 2017 Walsh should do the honourable thing and fall on his sword. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sydneyneil Posted November 23, 2017 Report Share Posted November 23, 2017 This guy has got away with murder. Whatever his role is, he's failing. Lowensda 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nogs Posted November 23, 2017 Report Share Posted November 23, 2017 Could he be the worst mistake this club has ever made? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowensda Posted November 23, 2017 Report Share Posted November 23, 2017 @hafnia This one's for you https://twitter.com/dazzler1878efc/status/933810779433861122 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nogs Posted November 23, 2017 Report Share Posted November 23, 2017 1 minute ago, Lowensda said: @hafnia This one's for you https://twitter.com/dazzler1878efc/status/933810779433861122 There was so much hope then! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted November 23, 2017 Report Share Posted November 23, 2017 Just now, Lowensda said: @hafnia This one's for you https://twitter.com/dazzler1878efc/status/933810779433861122 Yep cos Lukaku would stop us leaking goals... ffs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowensda Posted November 23, 2017 Report Share Posted November 23, 2017 Count your views on Stones covered in that tweet as well. Light joke mate. Otherwise I'd fucking cry right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted November 23, 2017 Report Share Posted November 23, 2017 40 minutes ago, Lowensda said: Count your views on Stones covered in that tweet as well. Light joke mate. Otherwise I'd fucking cry right now. Stones would do fuck all for us. Nice footballer... we need leaders we are totally messed up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post duncanmckenzieismagic Posted November 23, 2017 Popular Post Report Share Posted November 23, 2017 Yep cos Lukaku would stop us leaking goals... ffsHe probably would help actuallyTeams know we have no goal threat and no pace going forward . They know they can commit men forward against us because they are safe in the knowledge that we are not going to hurt them with a counter attackAt least if we had a goal scorer and some pace up top it would give them something to think about Quinn31, coxy051, Paddock and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparks FC Posted November 24, 2017 Report Share Posted November 24, 2017 38 minutes ago, hafnia said: Stones would do fuck all for us. Nice footballer... we need leaders we are totally messed up. The bizarre thing is on paper we have leaders. A former England and United captain. Former Ajax captain. Current Wales and Ireland captains. Lol even Cuco is captain for his NT. That's excluding any senior figures who aren't official captains. Bizarelly all of them, bar Coleman, are in horrible form. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coxy051 Posted November 24, 2017 Report Share Posted November 24, 2017 1 hour ago, duncanmckenzieismagic said: He probably would help actually Teams know we have no goal threat and no pace going forward . They know they can commit men forward against us because they are safe in the knowledge that we are not going to hurt them with a counter attack At least if we had a goal scorer and some pace up top it would give them something to think about He would help a lot! No matter how bad his touch is he scored goals we had a threat! We now have no threat teams just out play us for fun knowing we haven't got a goal scorer! Don't care how shit you say he was haf or how bad his overall game play was or he didn't bleed blue! He was always a threat and scored goals! That gave us a massive advantage all over the pitch. If we still had him now we would probably still be in Europe and not where we are now in the league. Not much has changed in terms of players still playing for the club from last season. We added to the squad what we already had but lost the key ingredient a goal scorer! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted November 24, 2017 Report Share Posted November 24, 2017 8 hours ago, coxy051 said: He would help a lot! No matter how bad his touch is he scored goals we had a threat! We now have no threat teams just out play us for fun knowing we haven't got a goal scorer! Don't care how shit you say he was haf or how bad his overall game play was or he didn't bleed blue! He was always a threat and scored goals! That gave us a massive advantage all over the pitch. If we still had him now we would probably still be in Europe and not where we are now in the league. Not much has changed in terms of players still playing for the club from last season. We added to the squad what we already had but lost the key ingredient a goal scorer! Watched him for man United much recently? He's been abysmal. Honeymoon period has well and truly ended and the fans are questioning why they bought him for the very fact that he only scores when the game is dead or shows against poor opponents. We are leaking goals galore and it's due to having 3 defenders who' legs have gone and a midfield missing Barry and Barkley. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted November 24, 2017 Report Share Posted November 24, 2017 Club need to evaluate his performance this summer, recruitment has not been what it should have been. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted November 24, 2017 Report Share Posted November 24, 2017 Watched him for man United much recently? He's been abysmal. Honeymoon period has well and truly ended and the fans are questioning why they bought him for the very fact that he only scores when the game is dead or shows against poor opponents. We are leaking goals galore and it's due to having 3 defenders who' legs have gone and a midfield missing Barry and Barkley. So the fact teams know we couldn’t score in a brothel has absolutely nothing to do with it? rubecula 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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