markjazzbassist Posted December 21, 2020 Report Share Posted December 21, 2020 1 hour ago, Shukes said: that a lot of his Ariel mistakes come from him trying to hard to correct it. he's a real mermaid, ahem, mer-MAN, out there... Shukes 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted December 21, 2020 Report Share Posted December 21, 2020 27 minutes ago, markjazzbassist said: he's a real mermaid, ahem, mer-MAN, out there... Still haven’t learnt after all of these years.... read back before hitting post haha. markjazzbassist 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornish Steve Posted December 22, 2020 Report Share Posted December 22, 2020 10 hours ago, pete0 said: I thought this was satire. Very hard for a keeper to blamed for a penalty going in. No, it wasn't satire: I was perfectly serious. Penalties are difficult to save, I get that, but moving well before the ball is kicked gives time for the penalty taker to direct his shot in the other direction. Moreover, if he guesses right, the ref may penalize him for moving and order a retake. Yes, I view it as a schoolboy error. And I'm not meaning to crucify him, just point out areas where he can and should improve. Remind me: what is the Everton motto again? markjazzbassist 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted December 22, 2020 Report Share Posted December 22, 2020 3 hours ago, Cornish Steve said: No, it wasn't satire: I was perfectly serious. Penalties are difficult to save, I get that, but moving well before the ball is kicked gives time for the penalty taker to direct his shot in the other direction. Moreover, if he guesses right, the ref may penalize him for moving and order a retake. Yes, I view it as a schoolboy error. And I'm not meaning to crucify him, just point out areas where he can and should improve. Remind me: what is the Everton motto again? Your aloud to move before a pen left or right before it’s touched, now that’s a school boy error shouldn’t you know the laws before you make a judgment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted December 22, 2020 Report Share Posted December 22, 2020 2 hours ago, Palfy said: Your aloud to move before a pen left or right before it’s touched, now that’s a school boy error shouldn’t you know the laws before you make a judgment. You’re allowed, yes, doesn’t mean you have to. He moved too early and made the decision for Pepe much easier, which is Steve’s point I believe. markjazzbassist 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted December 22, 2020 Report Share Posted December 22, 2020 3 minutes ago, Matt said: You’re allowed, yes, doesn’t mean you have to. He moved too early and made the decision for Pepe much easier, which is Steve’s point I believe. That's one of his points, then he mentions the ref penalising him for moving. Which is what Palfy is talking about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted December 22, 2020 Report Share Posted December 22, 2020 Just now, Romey 1878 said: That's one of his points, then he mentions the ref penalising him for moving. Which is what Palfy is talking about. Fair enough. I’ll go get my coffee... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted December 22, 2020 Report Share Posted December 22, 2020 8 hours ago, Cornish Steve said: No, it wasn't satire: I was perfectly serious. Penalties are difficult to save, I get that, but moving well before the ball is kicked gives time for the penalty taker to direct his shot in the other direction. Moreover, if he guesses right, the ref may penalize him for moving and order a retake. Yes, I view it as a schoolboy error. And I'm not meaning to crucify him, just point out areas where he can and should improve. Remind me: what is the Everton motto again? But if he moves just that fraction early that’s the difference between getting to the bottom corner before the ball does if he goes the same direction as the kick taker. He might gain a small advantage, but if the kick taker goes the other way it doesn’t matter regardless as Jordan has picked his side. I really don’t see the issue. Jordan saves plenty of penalties, whatever he does seems to work so I’ve no issue with that. pete0 and Palfy 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Blue Posted December 22, 2020 Report Share Posted December 22, 2020 Shot stopping is where Jordan excels, he just needs to be a bit better at judging when to come for cross's. Palfy and Matt 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted December 22, 2020 Report Share Posted December 22, 2020 3 hours ago, London Blue said: Shot stopping is where Jordan excels, he just needs to be a bit better at judging when to come for cross's. 100% Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted January 10, 2021 Report Share Posted January 10, 2021 https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/liverpool-everton-pickford-van-dijk-19596442 He spread himself in the wrong way... no he fucking didn't . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted January 10, 2021 Report Share Posted January 10, 2021 3 minutes ago, Romey 1878 said: https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/liverpool-everton-pickford-van-dijk-19596442 He spread himself in the wrong way... no he fucking didn't . How can he say, "I genuinely don't think Pickford has done anything apart from try to spread himself.." and then say it's a red card? When did a 'keeper spreading himself become a sending off offence? Numpty. Romey 1878, Matt, pete0 and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted January 10, 2021 Report Share Posted January 10, 2021 2 minutes ago, MikeO said: How can he say, "I genuinely don't think Pickford has done anything apart from try to spread himself.." and then say it's a red card? When did a 'keeper spreading himself become a sending off offence? Numpty. Got to bow down to those weird reds or he'll get abuse every time he refs one of their games. markjazzbassist, MikeO and Matt 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete0 Posted January 10, 2021 Report Share Posted January 10, 2021 14 minutes ago, Romey 1878 said: https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/liverpool-everton-pickford-van-dijk-19596442 He spread himself in the wrong way... no he fucking didn't . 8 minutes ago, MikeO said: How can he say, "I genuinely don't think Pickford has done anything apart from try to spread himself.." and then say it's a red card? When did a 'keeper spreading himself become a sending off offence? Numpty. Beat me to the punch. Just read the article and copy and pasted the exact same bit to post on here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted January 10, 2021 Report Share Posted January 10, 2021 Maybe we should bring up the Jimmy case assault that ended the career of one of our players a good few years ago whilst we are at it..... This is getting ridiculous now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Btay Posted January 10, 2021 Report Share Posted January 10, 2021 All well and good but where’s the interviews after every mistake they make? United when Gylfi got scythed down and then seemed in an offside position. It’s an absolute piss take. markjazzbassist 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gwlad Posted January 10, 2021 Report Share Posted January 10, 2021 Oliver will be out to get us in some way when he next referees one of our games just to please the dark side. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted January 11, 2021 Report Share Posted January 11, 2021 Couldn’t believe my eyes when I saw this article. I still can’t. Jesus fucking Christ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted January 27, 2021 Report Share Posted January 27, 2021 Olsen has to be number 1 now. No ifs and buts.... He spoilt a great defensive effort tonight. Be just can't be trusted. It's as simple as that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC11 Posted January 27, 2021 Report Share Posted January 27, 2021 I think the writings on the wall. markjazzbassist, Btay, Cornish Steve and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornish Steve Posted January 27, 2021 Report Share Posted January 27, 2021 4 minutes ago, MC11 said: I think the writings on the wall. Totally agree. There's alarming similarities to Hart going on here. Shukes 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c1982 Posted January 27, 2021 Report Share Posted January 27, 2021 If he wasn’t such an expensive ‘asset’, I think he would have been benched a long time ago. I just can’t see a domestic buyer for him but we sure as hell need to upgrade. I can’t see us doing what Chelsea are doing with Kepa but we need a solution ASAP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted January 28, 2021 Report Share Posted January 28, 2021 Sadly we will take a loss on him. 20m to west ham and call it a day. They’ll bust a nut over him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted January 28, 2021 Report Share Posted January 28, 2021 Just watching Olsen gives you a sense of more calm, his command and no nonsense approach. Pickford just has something in him that makes him do spontaneous things that causes him to make big mistakes. We would probably get £20m on him maybe due to his previous rep etc. He won't be number one next season or even befire that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted January 28, 2021 Report Share Posted January 28, 2021 9 minutes ago, Hafnia said: Just watching Olsen gives you a sense of more calm, his command and no nonsense approach. Pickford just has something in him that makes him do spontaneous things that causes him to make big mistakes. We would probably get £20m on him maybe due to his previous rep etc. He won't be number one next season or even befire that. Neither one should be our number 1, and Olsen isn't signing for us permanently to be a number 2. I'm so disappointed in Pickford tonight. He played really well apart from those couple of minutes and it's cost us, badly. He didn't need to push it out for the original corner in the first place and then compounded that error by having a weak wrist. For fucks sake, wank more. Btay, Matt and StevO 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BedfordBlue Posted January 28, 2021 Report Share Posted January 28, 2021 That's his first mistake in ages pete0, Matt and StevO 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted January 28, 2021 Report Share Posted January 28, 2021 My worry is that it is literally at least one mistake every single game. Sometimes it costs is a goal, sometimes we get away with it. But the law of averages say goals will be scored. Its disappointing as he does seem to be recognising this himself and working hard in training. Maybe it’s a mentality thing? Sometimes it can be as simple as stop trying so hard. markjazzbassist and Hafnia 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Btay Posted January 28, 2021 Report Share Posted January 28, 2021 2 hours ago, BedfordBlue said: That's his first mistake in ages Because he’s been playing less games with Olsen around. Hes made mistakes that haven’t been punished. I wish so much we won that game and he was solid. Deflating. markjazzbassist 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted January 28, 2021 Report Share Posted January 28, 2021 9 hours ago, Romey 1878 said: Neither one should be our number 1, and Olsen isn't signing for us permanently to be a number 2. I'm so disappointed in Pickford tonight. He played really well apart from those couple of minutes and it's cost us, badly. He didn't need to push it out for the original corner in the first place and then compounded that error by having a weak wrist. For fucks sake, wank more. Absolutely this. I certainly don’t don’t feel more calm with Olsen between the sticks either, he’s also had shaky moments. Maybe understandable considering fragmented game time but still shaky regardless. Did Donnarumma sign a new contract? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted January 28, 2021 Report Share Posted January 28, 2021 2 hours ago, Shukes said: My worry is that it is literally at least one mistake every single game. Sometimes it costs is a goal, sometimes we get away with it. But the law of averages say goals will be scored. Its disappointing as he does seem to be recognising this himself and working hard in training. Maybe it’s a mentality thing? Sometimes it can be as simple as stop trying so hard. He's said he's been seeing a sports psychologist. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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