markjazzbassist Posted July 24, 2018 Report Share Posted July 24, 2018 at this point i would let him go to Werder Bremen. get rid and move on with gylfi, dowell, davies, vlasic at that position. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plaidharper Posted July 24, 2018 Report Share Posted July 24, 2018 not bothered. will never be up to the physicality of the epl. mentioned it awhile ago in this thread. he did not stand out when playing those games with the u23. nothing has changed and neither has my opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted July 26, 2018 Report Share Posted July 26, 2018 https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/everton-midfielder-davy-klaassen-hold-14955677 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted July 26, 2018 Report Share Posted July 26, 2018 KLAASSEN NEARS BREMEN SWITCH Everton midfielder Davy Klaassen’s move to Bundesliga side Werder Bremen is close to completion, according to Sky sources. The former Ajax captain failed to nail down a regular starting place at Goodison Park and is on the brink of making the move to Germany. Klaassen won’t be involved at Blackburn Rovers tonight. great news, let the exodus begin plaidharper and London Blue 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted July 26, 2018 Report Share Posted July 26, 2018 1 minute ago, markjazzbassist said: KLAASSEN NEARS BREMEN SWITCH Everton midfielder Davy Klaassen’s move to Bundesliga side Werder Bremen is close to completion, according to Sky sources. The former Ajax captain failed to nail down a regular starting place at Goodison Park and is on the brink of making the move to Germany. Klaassen won’t be involved at Blackburn Rovers tonight. great news, let the exodus begin Cant we offer them a buy one get one free deal so they take Coco as well? Gwlad all over and MikeO 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted July 26, 2018 Report Share Posted July 26, 2018 Almost certainly gone now! 1 down, about a dozen to go lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haiku Posted July 26, 2018 Report Share Posted July 26, 2018 Shame really it didn't worked out for him. He was a stand out midfielder at Eredivisie and can't even break in as a backup for us, that's quite frustrating. London Blue and MikeO 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haiku Posted July 26, 2018 Report Share Posted July 26, 2018 On 10/06/2018 at 12:33, Romey 1878 said: I'd rather not deal with Turkish sides, or as little as possible. Sorry, Sir McGiven, but it's such a ball ache no matter what. What's the case with Turkish sides, I can't follow? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newty82 Posted July 26, 2018 Report Share Posted July 26, 2018 7 minutes ago, Haiku said: Shame really it didn't worked out for him. He was a stand out midfielder at Eredivisie and can't even break in as a backup for us, that's quite frustrating. It's most likely he doesn't want to be a back up. He'll want to play every week and has probably been told that won't happen, his agent will have fished him around and he just has to weigh up his options. The pace of the Premiership clearly doesn't allow him to be at his best. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted July 26, 2018 Report Share Posted July 26, 2018 45 minutes ago, Haiku said: What's the case with Turkish sides, I can't follow? They love to move the goalposts. Take Yobo for example. Went over there on loan, they agreed a fee to make it permanent in that loan deal, the loan was very successful with Yobo performing very well, but when it came to making it permanent they all of a sudden wanted to pay a hell of a lot less. Shit like that is a regular occurrence and they’re often more trouble than they’re worth. Even getting Tosun here was a bit of a piss take. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted July 26, 2018 Report Share Posted July 26, 2018 Booked in for a medical http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11671/11449585/evertons-davy-klaassen-close-to-werder-bremen-move Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted July 26, 2018 Report Share Posted July 26, 2018 Thanks for the memories Davy (wracks brain)..... He was TT MOTM in his competitive début v Ružomberok. Who will ever forget that night? Quinn31 and Newty82 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Newty82 Posted July 26, 2018 Report Share Posted July 26, 2018 Ah well, good luck to him. Still young so has plenty to go at. Just obviously didn't have enough to make it here. Or we just don't have a use for him...he'll not be the only midfielder to leave. Knows how to play a good ball though... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted July 26, 2018 Report Share Posted July 26, 2018 A bit gutted it didn’t work out for him here after seeing his clips I had high hopes for him, never mind good luck to him and we move on. Next please. Romey 1878 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted July 26, 2018 Report Share Posted July 26, 2018 Can’t fault his attitude. Got a feeling it was a matter of wrong place wrong time for him. Will be interesting to see how he gets on. pete0, Newty82 and EFC-Paul 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post c1982 Posted July 27, 2018 Popular Post Report Share Posted July 27, 2018 Shame it didn’t work out but we had to cut our losses. Good luck Davy! Matt, Romey 1878, Quinn31 and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nogs Posted July 27, 2018 Report Share Posted July 27, 2018 One of those players who was never going to handle the pace and physicality of the PL. Remember Aquilani? He may do very well in Germany. Put this one down to Koeman being clueless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newty82 Posted July 27, 2018 Report Share Posted July 27, 2018 £10milll loss in one season... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted July 27, 2018 Report Share Posted July 27, 2018 only gone and scored in his debut! Newty82 and EFC-Paul 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibdane Posted July 27, 2018 Report Share Posted July 27, 2018 2 minutes ago, duncanmckenzieismagic said: only gone and scored in his debut! Haha -- of course he did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newty82 Posted July 27, 2018 Report Share Posted July 27, 2018 Fuckin bastard!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibdane Posted July 27, 2018 Report Share Posted July 27, 2018 It was the type of goal we thought he'd be scoring for us too: got forward and into the box at just the right time to put it away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EFC-Paul Posted July 27, 2018 Report Share Posted July 27, 2018 I really hope it works out for him always seemed a proper professional and at another time under different circumstances we may have had a player on our hands Matt, MikeO and Romey 1878 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete0 Posted July 27, 2018 Report Share Posted July 27, 2018 1 hour ago, sibdane said: It was the type of goal we thought he'd be scoring for us too: got forward and into the box at just the right time to put it away. Think that says more about his teammates not providing him with the ball. Lots of good movement went unnoticed. Matt, MikeO, Sibdane and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted July 27, 2018 Report Share Posted July 27, 2018 https://twitter.com/sporxtv/status/1022904983933607941?s=21 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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MikeO Posted July 27, 2018 Report Share Posted July 27, 2018 26 minutes ago, pete0 said: Think that says more about his teammates not providing him with the ball. Lots of good movement went unnoticed. Some players are "too good" in a perverse way to play for us in recent years; I'll likely be shouted down but I'd put Leon Osman in the frame for it. For me he created things and saw opportunities that went over the head of the rest of the team all the time, if he'd have had better players around him he'd have got way more than two England caps. Sibdane, pete0 and Matt 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibdane Posted July 27, 2018 Report Share Posted July 27, 2018 He was very involved in the build-up as well. He may not have worked for us, but I still feel he is a good player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EFC-Paul Posted July 27, 2018 Report Share Posted July 27, 2018 40 minutes ago, MikeO said: Some players are "too good" in a perverse way to play for us in recent years; I'll likely be shouted down but I'd put Leon Osman in the frame for it. For me he created things and saw opportunities that went over the head of the rest of the team all the time, if he'd have had better players around him he'd have got way more than two England caps. I agree with that Mike, not in his decision making but I always thought Bily could have been a very good player under say a Martinez type Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted July 27, 2018 Report Share Posted July 27, 2018 Shit managers can make good players look poor with their shit tactics and decisions, unfortunately that's what happened to Klaassen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter H Posted July 27, 2018 Report Share Posted July 27, 2018 Not happy about him leaving. Still think he could have been really good for us. Matt, pete0 and Sibdane 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted July 28, 2018 Report Share Posted July 28, 2018 9 hours ago, Peter H said: Not happy about him leaving. Still think he could have been really good for us. When I look at his videos from Ajax I think the same but when I look at what he did here I dont. Very strange situation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haiku Posted July 28, 2018 Report Share Posted July 28, 2018 27 minutes ago, Bailey said: When I look at his videos from Ajax I think the same but when I look at what he did here I dont. Very strange situation. We saw nothing from him. 3-4 starts for Everton and a few appearances as a sub. All we judge him for is based on the managers' reluctance to give him time on the pitch. Same happened to Niasse until the striker crisis we had last season. I still believe Klaassen had a place in our team, considering how piss poor our midfielders are, I don't think he's far off their quality. Obviously he had a difficult time settling in the PL, but he's not worse than Schneiderlin I believe. I would rather ship Morgan and keep Klaassen if I was the manager. Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted July 28, 2018 Report Share Posted July 28, 2018 40 minutes ago, Bailey said: When I look at his videos from Ajax I think the same but when I look at what he did here I dont. Very strange situation. Never given a run and came into a clusterfuck of a squad. No one did well last year really, not just Davy, think we got rid far too soon. Would’ve rather he had a loan than be sold. MikeO 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted July 28, 2018 Report Share Posted July 28, 2018 It’s a poor league, lookman looked a worldie over there and he doesn’t in the premier. No big deal, that’s his level and good for Davy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted July 28, 2018 Report Share Posted July 28, 2018 4 hours ago, Haiku said: We saw nothing from him. 3-4 starts for Everton and a few appearances as a sub. All we judge him for is based on the managers' reluctance to give him time on the pitch. Same happened to Niasse until the striker crisis we had last season. I still believe Klaassen had a place in our team, considering how piss poor our midfielders are, I don't think he's far off their quality. Obviously he had a difficult time settling in the PL, but he's not worse than Schneiderlin I believe. I would rather ship Morgan and keep Klaassen if I was the manager. We saw him a few times in pre-season and a handful of starts and you would expect any player with a future, certainly one that cost £25mil to show something more than the odd good pass. You cant really compare him to Morgan because they are very different players, however if you were, you could at least say thay Morgan has proven himself at the club and league. Niasse has just proven himself to be a pain in the arse. You cant build attacks off him and so I think Koeman was right in that he is good enough to be a front line striker for a PL club chasing Europe, he just didnt see the benefit of having him on the bench. Klaassen doesnt have any impact value like Niasse does. 4 hours ago, Matt said: Never given a run and came into a clusterfuck of a squad. No one did well last year really, not just Davy, think we got rid far too soon. Would’ve rather he had a loan than be sold. I agree that everyone struggled but Davy just didnt do anything. Never close enough to his man defending and easy to play around, not good in tight spots under physical pressure, slow, and whilst his movement is good, the defensive nature of this league and the physicality of most teams doesnt suit him in that he is great at moving into space on the counter but not so much against two banks of 4. Ideally I think he needs to play deeper and break forward (like he did for WB for that goal). You want him starting attacks from deep and then breaking forward to cause a threat in the box, not starting as a 10 and moving horizontally instead of vertically. You cant play him that deep in the EPL because he is weak and not a great tackler. I dont doubt that he is a good player but he just doesnt seem suited to the league and if a 4th manager didnt fancy him I think it says it all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sev Posted July 28, 2018 Report Share Posted July 28, 2018 A damn shame. He never really got a fair chance here. But he - and also some other of our players - was locked in a terrible system dictated by Allerdyce. And of course also Koeman is to blame. I think Klassen has a bright future. I'm sorry it will not happen in EFC. I wish him the best of luck in 1. Bundesliga. Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted October 6, 2018 Report Share Posted October 6, 2018 https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/life-more-beautiful-away-everton-15242460 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibdane Posted October 6, 2018 Report Share Posted October 6, 2018 3 hours ago, Romey 1878 said: https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/life-more-beautiful-away-everton-15242460 Will always despise the Gravy Guzzler. Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornish Steve Posted October 16, 2018 Report Share Posted October 16, 2018 On 06/10/2018 at 08:57, sibdane said: Will always despise the Gravy Guzzler. I shall never ever understand why Everton thought Crooked Sam was a good fit. Surely, everyone who ever thought about it for more than two seconds knew that. MikeO 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted October 17, 2018 Report Share Posted October 17, 2018 11 hours ago, Cornish Steve said: I shall never ever understand why Everton thought Crooked Sam was a good fit. Surely, everyone who ever thought about it for more than two seconds knew that. I don’t ever think for one moment he was going to get past the end of the season, the board just made sure we were not going to get relegated, whether right or wrong they eventually got to were they wanted to be even if they had to go the long way round. pete0 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted October 17, 2018 Report Share Posted October 17, 2018 18 hours ago, Cornish Steve said: I shall never ever understand why Everton thought Crooked Sam was a good fit. Surely, everyone who ever thought about it for more than two seconds knew that. If Sam was the difference between us getting relegated and surviving I would have no problems with hiring him. The reality is I don't think he was required and as a result we suffered a bit for it. But none the less I'm not gonna pretend I wouldn't suffer him to ensure survival. Matt and Palfy 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted October 18, 2018 Report Share Posted October 18, 2018 On 17/10/2018 at 01:05, Cornish Steve said: I shall never ever understand why Everton thought Crooked Sam was a good fit. Surely, everyone who ever thought about it for more than two seconds knew that. Panic 13 hours ago, hafnia said: If Sam was the difference between us getting relegated and surviving I would have no problems with hiring him. The reality is I don't think he was required and as a result we suffered a bit for it. But none the less I'm not gonna pretend I wouldn't suffer him to ensure survival. This. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted October 18, 2018 Report Share Posted October 18, 2018 14 hours ago, hafnia said: If Sam was the difference between us getting relegated and surviving I would have no problems with hiring him. The reality is I don't think he was required and as a result we suffered a bit for it. But none the less I'm not gonna pretend I wouldn't suffer him to ensure survival. Spotty dog Haf. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornish Steve Posted October 18, 2018 Report Share Posted October 18, 2018 18 hours ago, hafnia said: If Sam was the difference between us getting relegated and surviving I would have no problems with hiring him. The reality is I don't think he was required and as a result we suffered a bit for it. But none the less I'm not gonna pretend I wouldn't suffer him to ensure survival. Let's not give the guy credit for saving us from relegation. Just about any manager could have done that. He ruined the mentality and confidence of key players, was arrogant and uncaring, set back the progress of our youth, and was altogether the worst match between team and manager I think I've ever witnessed. His values and the club's values are on opposite ends of the spectrum. Matt and MikeO 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted October 18, 2018 Report Share Posted October 18, 2018 9 minutes ago, Cornish Steve said: Let's not give the guy credit for saving us from relegation. Just about any manager could have done that. He ruined the mentality and confidence of key players, was arrogant and uncaring, set back the progress of our youth, and was altogether the worst match between team and manager I think I've ever witnessed. His values and the club's values are on opposite ends of the spectrum. Steve I don't think anyone is giving him credit for anything, you originally asked why did Everton give him the job some gave their opinion as to why they thought he was given the job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted October 18, 2018 Report Share Posted October 18, 2018 11 minutes ago, Palfy said: Steve I don't think anyone is giving him credit for anything, you originally asked why did Everton give him the job some gave their opinion as to why they thought he was given the job. Several have given him credit for "keeping us up", because he did. That can't be argued with, we finished 8th, but it was no thanks to him. The point is that he wasn't needed, was a complete mismatch and had a detrimental effect on the club. Anyway, he's gone now and hopefully long forgotten. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete0 Posted October 18, 2018 Report Share Posted October 18, 2018 People give Jags and Keane credit for the second half of the season. That was all Alladyce. They were shite under Koeman and more expansive tactics. Alladyce brought Walcott and I'm glad he did as second half of the season at least we had some one with pace to get you off yoyr seat. Other than him and Pickford the season was a fucking pain to watch and that is all down to Walsh and Koeman. Boggles the mind that Alladyce is the scapegoat for them two shitsters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted October 19, 2018 Report Share Posted October 19, 2018 8 hours ago, pete0 said: People give Jags and Keane credit for the second half of the season. That was all Alladyce. They were shite under Koeman and more expansive tactics. Alladyce brought Walcott and I'm glad he did as second half of the season at least we had some one with pace to get you off yoyr seat. Other than him and Pickford the season was a fucking pain to watch and that is all down to Walsh and Koeman. Boggles the mind that Alladyce is the scapegoat for them two shitsters. No one is saying he's a scape goat for them, they're saying he wasn't required. I still don't buy into the idea that Walcott signed because of him, regardless of what he's said. Sibdane and MikeO 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Hafnia Posted April 7 Report Share Posted April 7 21 hours ago, KinL said: https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/65197563 Disgusting, shoukd serve prison time. Palfy, KinL and Romey 1878 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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