Bailey Posted September 14, 2019 Report Share Posted September 14, 2019 I saw some of the extended highlights and he looked fantastic! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sacchi Posted September 16, 2019 Report Share Posted September 16, 2019 UEFA EURO 2020 (@UEFAEURO) Tweeted: Outrageous from Turkey's Cenk Tosun #EURO2020 | @MilliTakimlar https://t.co/gp3oNBYUmv FUCK THE SILVA! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted September 17, 2019 Report Share Posted September 17, 2019 Was a great finish. But he can’t seem to hit it between the corner flags in the premier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sacchi Posted September 17, 2019 Report Share Posted September 17, 2019 3 hours ago, Shukes said: Was a great finish. But he can’t seem to hit it between the corner flags in the premier. Did he play? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted September 17, 2019 Report Share Posted September 17, 2019 17 minutes ago, Sacchi said: Did he play? yes hes played plenty and is a ghost out there. against lower tier euro sides like andorra and faroe islands he's a worldie, but against premier league competition he is shown to be slow and not quick enough to react. he also doesn't bring as much of a pressing presence. he needs to be sold. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sacchi Posted September 17, 2019 Report Share Posted September 17, 2019 How many matches did he play this season? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted September 17, 2019 Report Share Posted September 17, 2019 5 minutes ago, Sacchi said: How many matches did he play this season? we've seen enough the last 2 seasons. did he over the summer become ronaldo? players don't change that much at his age. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sacchi Posted September 17, 2019 Report Share Posted September 17, 2019 2 minutes ago, markjazzbassist said: we've seen enough the last 2 seasons. did he over the summer become ronaldo? players don't change that much at his age. There are many players who can not score much in the first season in premier league. Manager doesnt gives chance to him. Yes he needs to be sold .Everton was wrong team. however, even if you transfer Ronaldo, this team cannot do anything with these tactics. Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted September 17, 2019 Report Share Posted September 17, 2019 1 hour ago, Sacchi said: Did he play? Doubt he could score without playing..... so ye guess he must have played Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted September 17, 2019 Report Share Posted September 17, 2019 Some absolutely shite players have scored some worldies. I’d rather trust a manager who sees him every day in training. Zoo 2.0 and markjazzbassist 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aidan Posted October 12, 2019 Report Share Posted October 12, 2019 Scored a 90 minute winner last night against Albania. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir McGiven Posted October 12, 2019 Report Share Posted October 12, 2019 he did score but he was horrible in general. of course he is lacking in match fitness, can't blame him too much. he plays national games to national games nowadays. he plays way better 2 upfront is the only thing that can be mentioned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted October 13, 2019 Report Share Posted October 13, 2019 I’d start him and Kean against West Ham. Romey 1878 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted October 13, 2019 Report Share Posted October 13, 2019 1 hour ago, StevO said: I’d start him and Kean against West Ham. I’d still go with DCL and Kean, bring Tosun on once the defence has tired out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Makis Posted October 13, 2019 Report Share Posted October 13, 2019 That military salute should be enough to kick the him out of the club. Turks are killing kurds in Syria and those wankers are doing a military salute. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Makis Posted October 13, 2019 Report Share Posted October 13, 2019 Whatever. He can still fuck off. StevO and Sir McGiven 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted October 13, 2019 Report Share Posted October 13, 2019 10 minutes ago, TallPaul1878 said: It's an absolute bloodbath in the region. And who do we have to thank for that? Donald Trump, what a surprise. Didn't see the "salute" so can't comment but if that's right he needs to be disciplined somehow. The World is descending into a cesspool of nationalism as it is without sportsmen whipping it up further. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibdane Posted October 13, 2019 Report Share Posted October 13, 2019 1 hour ago, MikeO said: And who do we have to thank for that? Donald Trump, what a surprise. Didn't see the "salute" so can't comment but if that's right he needs to be disciplined somehow. The World is descending into a cesspool of nationalism as it is without sportsmen whipping it up further. Sorry for that. Our country is really fucking up at the moment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted October 13, 2019 Report Share Posted October 13, 2019 13 hours ago, Sibdane said: Sorry for that. Our country is really fucking up at the moment. No worries mate, we're right there with you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haiku Posted October 13, 2019 Report Share Posted October 13, 2019 5 hours ago, Makis said: That military salute should be enough to kick the him out of the club. Turks are killing kurds in Syria and those wankers are doing a military salute. The salute is his celebration trademark, just like Cahill punching the corner flag. That he isn't scoring for us is another matter, but he's doing this for quite some time. It has nothing to do with the war. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted October 13, 2019 Report Share Posted October 13, 2019 If Turkish lives have been lost and he wants to show solidarity with the soldiers I’m not too bothered anyway. I’ll admit I’ve no idea what’s happening over there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted October 14, 2019 Report Share Posted October 14, 2019 The Kurds have been the allies of the west for years, helping with the fight against Iraq and more importantly one of the main players in the down fall of IS. I maybe wrong but it would seem that Trump deems there use is over and has given the green light to Turkey, to attack the Kurds based on events of the past and old grudges. And Turkeys President is using this opportunity in the hope that the Turkish people’s hate for the Kurds will make him once again popular in his country. Playing politics with peoples life’s is shocking but all too very common. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted October 14, 2019 Report Share Posted October 14, 2019 On 13/10/2019 at 10:54, Matt said: I’d still go with DCL and Kean, bring Tosun on once the defence has tired out On 13/10/2019 at 09:43, StevO said: I’d start him and Kean against West Ham. If I was going to play with two up I would go with StevO on the basis that Tosun is a wiser footballer and more capable of reading the game and forming a partnership. DCL doesn't work well with another alongside him from what I have seen with him and Siggy. He gets in the way so unless you want long balls up to him to flick on I think it would be worth seeing if Kean is more switched on and can form a partnership. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted October 14, 2019 Report Share Posted October 14, 2019 2 minutes ago, Bailey said: If I was going to play with two up I would go with StevO on the basis that Tosun is a wiser footballer and more capable of reading the game and forming a partnership. DCL doesn't work well with another alongside him from what I have seen with him and Siggy. He gets in the way so unless you want long balls up to him to flick on I think it would be worth seeing if Kean is more switched on and can form a partnership. But they don’t play together, so im not sure you can make that comparison. DCL is completely isolated, as is Siggy in the middle because we’re going down the wings too often before cutting back. Having someone alongside DCL with pace, ie Kean, would cause chaos. DCL always makes sure the CBs have been physically challenged with strength but no one is there to tire out the legs. I’d love a more direct approach at the moment because possession and wingers are not working Plus, Tosun is the better finisher. So when we finally do get the ball into the box, I’d trust his intelligence and finishing, and there’s a better chance of that if he’s going against tired legs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete0 Posted October 14, 2019 Report Share Posted October 14, 2019 7 minutes ago, Bailey said: If I was going to play with two up I would go with StevO on the basis that Tosun is a wiser footballer and more capable of reading the game and forming a partnership. DCL doesn't work well with another alongside him from what I have seen with him and Siggy. He gets in the way so unless you want long balls up to him to flick on I think it would be worth seeing if Kean is more switched on and can form a partnership. DCL works well getting flick ons for Walcott when we play counter. I wouldn't class Sigurdssen as he offers DCL very little to work with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted October 14, 2019 Report Share Posted October 14, 2019 saluting the genocide of the Kurds, no thanks. get rid of this guy, send him back where he came Sir McGiven and StevO 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nogs Posted October 14, 2019 Report Share Posted October 14, 2019 Can I just remind everyone discussing Tosun's merits as a finisher/footballer he has an inferior goalscoring record for us than Niasse. Shukes and markjazzbassist 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted October 14, 2019 Report Share Posted October 14, 2019 4 hours ago, Matt said: But they don’t play together, so im not sure you can make that comparison. DCL is completely isolated, as is Siggy in the middle because we’re going down the wings too often before cutting back. Having someone alongside DCL with pace, ie Kean, would cause chaos. DCL always makes sure the CBs have been physically challenged with strength but no one is there to tire out the legs. I’d love a more direct approach at the moment because possession and wingers are not working Plus, Tosun is the better finisher. So when we finally do get the ball into the box, I’d trust his intelligence and finishing, and there’s a better chance of that if he’s going against tired legs. They do play together, practically on top of each other. DCL gets more isolated against the better sides but when we dominate the ball they play the same lines, I have watched them practically run into each other, they barely play a pass to each other all game. I know Siggy can play with others, so that leaves me to think that DCL is the one not reading the same cues. There are times when he looks like he has never played with his teammates, especially in those games we should win. Even the other week against City his tracking of the DM/CB was terrible in comparison to Siggy who was covering as many of the angles as he could. Playing direct is all well and good, and it works against the better teams, and it will probably work against West Ham but you arent going to go to Burnley and win that battle. I agree about Tosun and that's why I would use him with Kean. 4 hours ago, pete0 said: DCL works well getting flick ons for Walcott when we play counter. I wouldn't class Sigurdssen as he offers DCL very little to work with. But what about when there is no space for a flick on against a packed defence, primarily when we struggle. I agree about that concept against decent sides who come to play. Having said that its worth noting that Siggy played in them games last season when we turned up and beat the big sides at home. I see it the other way round, DCL offers little for Siggy to work with, albeit Siggy isnt offering a lot to the rest of the team either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete0 Posted October 14, 2019 Report Share Posted October 14, 2019 2 hours ago, Bailey said: But what about when there is no space for a flick on against a packed defence, primarily when we struggle. I agree about that concept against decent sides who come to play. Having said that its worth noting that Siggy played in them games last season when we turned up and beat the big sides at home. I see it the other way round, DCL offers little for Siggy to work with, albeit Siggy isnt offering a lot to the rest of the team either. Sigurdssen doesn't get the ball enough to offer DCL much. Only touches it half as much as others in his position, add to him being slow and the opportunity is lost before he can make the pass. Lots of the off ball by Walcott and DCL get missed because we simply aren't quick enough to get the ball to them when they're in good positions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aidan Posted October 15, 2019 Report Share Posted October 15, 2019 1 hour ago, pete0 said: Sigurdssen doesn't get the ball enough to offer DCL much. Only touches it half as much as others in his position, add to him being slow and the opportunity is lost before he can make the pass. Lots of the off ball by Walcott and DCL get missed because we simply aren't quick enough to get the ball to them when they're in good positions. Siggy doesnt get the ball enough because of the way that Silva set his teams up when going forward. I honestly believe that he isn't intended to get on the ball that much. Rightly or wrongly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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