London Blue Posted November 10, 2019 Report Share Posted November 10, 2019 12 hours ago, MC11 said: Needs to start throughout now. Players will get goals in and around him. Especially Richarlison. He misses to many good chances to be a starter, DCL is the better goal threat and brings players into games more so he should start. An option off the bench until we can get a better striker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted November 10, 2019 Report Share Posted November 10, 2019 4 hours ago, London Blue said: He misses to many good chances to be a starter, DCL is the better goal threat and brings players into games more so he should start. An option off the bench until we can get a better striker. I disagree. DCL's athleticism is better and therefore when he is more isolated he will help the team more in bringing his teammates into play but when we are in possession Tosun makes smarter runs and links play better in my opinion. I also think its very difficult to say that DCL is a bigger goal threat. I also dont really think that Tosun has much of an impact from the bench. He scored against Spurs but DCL has a bigger impact. All I would say is that for the next run of games, possibly including Norwich, DCL should start. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nogs Posted November 10, 2019 Report Share Posted November 10, 2019 17 hours ago, MC11 said: Needs to start throughout now. Players will get goals in and around him. Especially Richarlison. Didn't Richarlison score after Tosun was taken off?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Blue Posted November 10, 2019 Report Share Posted November 10, 2019 2 hours ago, Bailey said: I disagree. DCL's athleticism is better and therefore when he is more isolated he will help the team more in bringing his teammates into play but when we are in possession Tosun makes smarter runs and links play better in my opinion. I also think its very difficult to say that DCL is a bigger goal threat. I also dont really think that Tosun has much of an impact from the bench. He scored against Spurs but DCL has a bigger impact. All I would say is that for the next run of games, possibly including Norwich, DCL should start. Neither are prolific strikers, but DCL has hit a run of form and shown that he can score, Cenk, for all his running and enthusiasm has shown he cannot, at least not at this level. Also DCL has time on his side to learn and improve. I'm glad you think DCL should start, the more games he gets, the better he will become. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Btay Posted November 10, 2019 Popular Post Report Share Posted November 10, 2019 I think we need to stop lumping a striker uptop by themselves and asking why they are not scoring... nutmegwolf203, Shukes, Matt and 6 others 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted November 11, 2019 Report Share Posted November 11, 2019 17 hours ago, London Blue said: Neither are prolific strikers, but DCL has hit a run of form and shown that he can score, Cenk, for all his running and enthusiasm has shown he cannot, at least not at this level. Also DCL has time on his side to learn and improve. I'm glad you think DCL should start, the more games he gets, the better he will become. isn't that a bit OTT. He scored a goal that was already over the line and another where the keeper was out of position and went down the middle of the goal. Other than those, he has scored 1 league goal. In fact DCL averages a premier league goal every 322 minutes whereas Cenk is every 241 and he has played less minutes in the league. My view is that neither player is the answer to our problems but DCL plays better as the isolated striker whereas Cenk is the more effective player in and around other players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted November 11, 2019 Report Share Posted November 11, 2019 2 hours ago, Bailey said: My view is that neither player is the answer to our problems but DCL plays better as the isolated striker whereas Cenk is the more effective player in and around other players. Agreed neither will get us in the top 6, I believe Kean is the player we should be given the opportunity’s to, he if played correctly he could be the key to our lack of goals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nogs Posted November 11, 2019 Report Share Posted November 11, 2019 39 minutes ago, Palfy said: Agreed neither will get us in the top 6, I believe Kean is the player we should be given the opportunity’s to, he if played correctly he could be the key to our lack of goals. Except he's yet to score... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nogs Posted November 11, 2019 Report Share Posted November 11, 2019 17 hours ago, Btay said: I think we need to stop lumping a striker uptop by themselves and asking why they are not scoring... I don't think we do. A lot of the time we play a clear three up front, or at least two wingers who's job is to get up and support the CF. I think the main problem is that we are consistently wasteful in the final third, whoever the front three are. Playing Richarlison and Walcott in a front three, you'd hope those two alone would chip in with 30 goals a season between them. Whether we're not linking from the midfield well enough, or delivery from our fullbacks isn't good enough, or the forwards we play just aren't taking their opportunities or being clever enough in their movement, I don't know. But regardless of our issues at CF, we could and should be scoring more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted November 11, 2019 Report Share Posted November 11, 2019 6 minutes ago, nogs said: Except he's yet to score... Look at the game time he’s had and the positions he’s been asked to play, plus he’s new to league and deserves a fair crack as the main striker. If you’re not going to play him why buy him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finn balor Posted November 11, 2019 Report Share Posted November 11, 2019 He’s very young. I think we will see more of him after chrimbo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted November 11, 2019 Report Share Posted November 11, 2019 Was in the Co-op today and the bloke behind me in the check-out queue was Cenk, either that or a separated at birth identical twin. Seriously had to do a double take! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gwlad Posted November 13, 2019 Report Share Posted November 13, 2019 Our family always texting each other when we see a lookey likey!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Blue Posted November 14, 2019 Report Share Posted November 14, 2019 On 11/11/2019 at 21:32, MikeO said: Was in the Co-op today and the bloke behind me in the check-out queue was Cenk, either that or a separated at birth identical twin. Seriously had to do a double take! Good to know he shops ethically. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Matt Posted January 4, 2020 Report Share Posted January 4, 2020 27 minutes ago, Sibdane said: He deserves better than that. The league is just a bit too quick for him. He’d thrive in Italy or Spain chicagoblue 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted January 4, 2020 Report Share Posted January 4, 2020 Great news let’s hope they loan to buy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted January 4, 2020 Report Share Posted January 4, 2020 I think he will do well there he’s not a bad player just hasn’t worked out for him here, he won’t be worse than Benteke for finding the net that’s for sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aidan Posted January 4, 2020 Report Share Posted January 4, 2020 Big Joycey reporting they're trying to sign him on loan. Trying? Try harder! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted January 4, 2020 Report Share Posted January 4, 2020 Good point can’t be worse than benteke. I remember when Haf was big upping benteke as better than lukaku. WhAt a laugh plaidharper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibdane Posted January 4, 2020 Report Share Posted January 4, 2020 3 hours ago, Matt said: He deserves better than that. The league is just a bit too quick for him. He’d thrive in Italy or Spain Are you saying the deal isn't good enough or just Palace in general? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c1982 Posted January 4, 2020 Report Share Posted January 4, 2020 4 hours ago, Matt said: He deserves better than that. The league is just a bit too quick for him. He’d thrive in Italy or Spain He’s settled in England - opportunity to move to a London club who will play to his strengths in the richest league in world football... pretty damn perfect move for him, in my opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finn balor Posted January 4, 2020 Report Share Posted January 4, 2020 Think Newcastle will be in for him aswell. Palace would suit him better. Zaha and Townsend giving him service. That pay his wages, they give us a small loan fee and if he does well his fee goes up in the summer Matt and markjazzbassist 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted January 5, 2020 Report Share Posted January 5, 2020 6 hours ago, Sibdane said: Are you saying the deal isn't good enough or just Palace in general? He’s got a natural finishing ability. If CP got him and can play the ball to his feet, they’d be on to a winner. Just feel he could really be special given the chance 5 hours ago, c1982 said: He’s settled in England - opportunity to move to a London club who will play to his strengths in the richest league in world football... pretty damn perfect move for him, in my opinion. Can’t argue with that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted January 9, 2020 Author Report Share Posted January 9, 2020 Heath 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted January 9, 2020 Report Share Posted January 9, 2020 We need to find a way to start selling, loans aren’t much good to us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Blue Posted January 9, 2020 Report Share Posted January 9, 2020 17 minutes ago, Romey 1878 said: We need to find a way to start selling, loans aren’t much good to us. True but wages are off the books and a potentially unhappy camper moved out from squad. Sell in the summer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finn balor Posted January 9, 2020 Report Share Posted January 9, 2020 25 minutes ago, Romey 1878 said: We need to find a way to start selling, loans aren’t much good to us. Who is going to buy the shit we have overpaid for? It’s a buyers market and there ain’t no buyers markjazzbassist 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted January 9, 2020 Report Share Posted January 9, 2020 48 minutes ago, London Blue said: True but wages are off the books and a potentially unhappy camper moved out from squad. Sell in the summer. Not a chance they’re even paying close to all his wages. Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Blue Posted January 9, 2020 Report Share Posted January 9, 2020 3 minutes ago, Romey 1878 said: Not a chance they’re even paying close to all his wages. Maybe, but there will be a loan fee and a decent amount of the wages covered. If he does well then helps improve the chances of him getting a permanent move somewhere in the summer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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