Sibdane Posted December 5, 2019 Report Share Posted December 5, 2019 6 hours ago, Wiggytop said: He has some bad luck fall his way, but for me he lacks the ability to effect changes in a game, we go behind far too often and can’t pull the game back, most of his subs are like for like. Last night was the classic example, we were loosing 4-2 at half time to the best team in the premier and European champions, a game were not going to get anything from unless changes were made. He should have put Kean on with DCL, Siggy did nothing, neither did Bernie ( wrong game and timing for him to back IMO) a 442 would have given a stronger front line against a team who do concede goals, and if we’re playing in their half they less likely to score against us. Bringing Morgan on when we were chasing the game was another head-scratcher for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted December 5, 2019 Report Share Posted December 5, 2019 2 minutes ago, Sibdane said: Bringing Morgan on when we were chasing the game was another head-scratcher for me. I burst out laughing when it happened. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nogs Posted December 5, 2019 Report Share Posted December 5, 2019 2 minutes ago, Romey 1878 said: I burst out laughing when it happened. I swore. Nearly as badly as I swore about Keane's non attempt at defending the first goal. nyblue23 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibdane Posted December 5, 2019 Report Share Posted December 5, 2019 4 minutes ago, Romey 1878 said: I burst out laughing when it happened. I rolled my eyes and threw my hands up in the air. That was the dagger for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted December 5, 2019 Report Share Posted December 5, 2019 2 minutes ago, nogs said: I swore. Nearly as badly as I swore about Keane's non attempt at defending the first goal. Just now, Sibdane said: I rolled my eyes and threw my hands up in the air. That was the dagger for me. Don't get me wrong, it was me laughing in utter disbelief. It was bad enough against Norwich swapping Sidibe for Coleman at 1-0 down but that last night was on a whole new level. Sigurdsson and Iwobi had both been absolute shite all game and he subs Davies? Davies who at least was trying. And then compounds the lunacy of the sub by the replacement being a defensive player. nogs and pete0 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibdane Posted December 5, 2019 Report Share Posted December 5, 2019 Just now, Romey 1878 said: Don't get me wrong, it was me laughing in utter disbelief. It was bad enough against Norwich swapping Sidibe for Coleman at 1-0 down but that last night was on a whole new level. Sigurdsson and Iwobi had both been absolute shite all game and he subs Davies? Davies who at least was trying. And then compounds the lunacy of the sub by the replacement being a defensive player. It made no sense. Granted, he didn't have much options in midfield, but I wouldn't be bringing on Morgan regardless. I would've just kept Gylfi on even though he was ineffective. He at least has the ability to score from nothing in a flash whereas Morgan can't. I just don't get bringing on a defensive player when we're down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted December 5, 2019 Report Share Posted December 5, 2019 He should have put Walcott on stuck Iwobi more central and thrown caution to the wind and taken Keane off, instead with our last role of the dice he goes negative. Is that really worth 6 million a year, because if it is we should all get our applications in for the vacant managers job. pete0 and chicagoblue 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibdane Posted December 5, 2019 Report Share Posted December 5, 2019 Can't be good for Marco. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nogs Posted December 5, 2019 Report Share Posted December 5, 2019 3 minutes ago, Sibdane said: Can't be good for Marco. Or Farhad is planning to deliver a good old fashioned owner's pep talk, inspiring them to victory on Saturday and everything will be fine and dandy... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plaidharper Posted December 5, 2019 Report Share Posted December 5, 2019 21 minutes ago, nogs said: Or Farhad is planning to deliver a good old fashioned owner's pep talk, inspiring them to victory on Saturday and everything will be fine and dandy... He is staying isn't he... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barryj Posted December 5, 2019 Report Share Posted December 5, 2019 14 minutes ago, plaidharper said: He is staying isn't he... No chance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finn balor Posted December 5, 2019 Report Share Posted December 5, 2019 2 hours ago, Romey 1878 said: Don't get me wrong, it was me laughing in utter disbelief. It was bad enough against Norwich swapping Sidibe for Coleman at 1-0 down but that last night was on a whole new level. Sigurdsson and Iwobi had both been absolute shite all game and he subs Davies? Davies who at least was trying. And then compounds the lunacy of the sub by the replacement being a defensive player. Silva has said that davies has been missing training sessions due to slight injury so that’s the only reason I can see davies going off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finn balor Posted December 5, 2019 Report Share Posted December 5, 2019 1 hour ago, Sibdane said: Can't be good for Marco. Maybe they are just giving Christmas hampers out? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elston Gunnn Posted December 5, 2019 Report Share Posted December 5, 2019 1 hour ago, plaidharper said: He is staying isn't he... https://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2019/dec/05/marco-silva-everton-managerial-mystery-watford-hull This interesting article about his unconventional career suggests he’s off, but then at the very end says: “The real game-changer here would be to keep Silva, to make him settle and work with the players, to stay a while and grow roots for the first time in his elite career.” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finn balor Posted December 5, 2019 Report Share Posted December 5, 2019 He’s gone. It will be moyes or apparently they have tried for Marcelino Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nogs Posted December 5, 2019 Report Share Posted December 5, 2019 4 minutes ago, Elston Gunnn said: https://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2019/dec/05/marco-silva-everton-managerial-mystery-watford-hull This interesting article about his unconventional career suggests he’s off, but then at the very end says: “The real game-changer here would be to keep Silva, to make him settle and work with the players, to stay a while and grow roots for the first time in his elite career.” And the real twist in that tale would be we get relegated and he gets to do all that work in the Championship! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plaidharper Posted December 5, 2019 Report Share Posted December 5, 2019 It has gotten late so I assume there will be no news until tomorrow then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chicagoblue Posted December 5, 2019 Report Share Posted December 5, 2019 There will be an announcement tonight (UK time). You don't parade the board down to Finch Farm and then go silent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nogs Posted December 5, 2019 Report Share Posted December 5, 2019 11 minutes ago, chicagoblue said: There will be an announcement tonight (UK time). You don't parade the board down to Finch Farm and then go silent. This is Everton mate. Who knows what the fuck is going on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted December 5, 2019 Report Share Posted December 5, 2019 2 minutes ago, nogs said: This is Everton mate. Who knows what the fuck is going on. i had to laugh at this. its sad but so fucking true it hurts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finn balor Posted December 5, 2019 Report Share Posted December 5, 2019 I expect it tonight with big Dunc in charge for Saturday Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted December 5, 2019 Report Share Posted December 5, 2019 4 minutes ago, Finn balor said: I expect it tonight with big Dunc in charge for Saturday fuck no i hope not Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chicagoblue Posted December 5, 2019 Report Share Posted December 5, 2019 Are they waiting until tonight's games kick off to try and bury the news? Strange state of affairs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weetabix Posted December 5, 2019 Report Share Posted December 5, 2019 Just been on TalkSport - Silva has gone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chicagoblue Posted December 5, 2019 Report Share Posted December 5, 2019 It's all over twitter now. ToffeeTV posting it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newty82 Posted December 5, 2019 Report Share Posted December 5, 2019 Yep. SSN- He's gone. Good luck for the future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete0 Posted December 5, 2019 Report Share Posted December 5, 2019 13 hours ago, Btay said: No issue with Mina this year. Davies isn’t Gana’s replacement and I don’t think he’s going to develop into that player. Delph/Gbabim were meant to be that Gomes was the sitter, Gana was supposedly the link. Gomes carried on his normal role and Davies took the other spot. 11 hours ago, nogs said: Given how dreadful Keane has been the failure to replace Zouma stands out as the icing on another very poor transfer window. Who was that on? Brands? I just can't get my head round a PL team going into the season with three senior centre backs. More I think about it, more I worry that something is very wrong in how the club is being run. We had a ready made replacement for Zouma in Mina. Keane needing upgrading is independent of Zouma leaving. StevO 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Zoo 2.0 Posted December 5, 2019 Popular Post Report Share Posted December 5, 2019 Now that it's done, I wish him well. Even though his tactics can be called into question, I don't think you can question his commitment to the team. What pissed me off about Koeman is towards the end he didn't look like he gave a shit, we were shipping goals left, right and centre without looking arsed. Silva always looked as though he was desperate for a win (or a point) but just wasn't getting the run of the green and/or good enough. Unfortunately, I don't think his tenure will be remembered in 10-20 years time. Moyes took us from fighting relegation to Europe, Martinez brought that attractive, attacking football and I think at the start Koeman looked really good - I just don't know what identity Marco has brought to the club nor do I think he's really progressed us as hoped, quite the opposite. It'll be interesting to see how we respond against Chelsea. As much as I wanted Silva to go I'm filled with anxiety due to not knowing who we'll get next. A bad appointment could put is in an even bigger mess. Sibdane, nyblue23, StevO and 6 others 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibdane Posted December 5, 2019 Report Share Posted December 5, 2019 Good luck Marco. On to the next. Wiggytop 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted December 5, 2019 Report Share Posted December 5, 2019 5 minutes ago, Zoo 2.0 said: Now that it's done, I wish him well. Even though his tactics can be called into question, I don't think you can question his commitment to the team. What pissed me off about Koeman is towards the end he didn't look like he gave a shit, we were shipping goals left, right and centre without looking arsed. Silva always looked as though he was desperate for a win (or a point) but just wasn't getting the run of the green and/or good enough. Unfortunately, I don't think his tenure will be remembered in 10-20 years time. Moyes took us from fighting relegation to Europe, Martinez brought that attractive, attacking football and I think at the start Koeman looked really good - I just don't know what identity Marco has brought to the club nor do I think he's really progressed us as hoped, quite the opposite. It'll be interesting to see how we respond against Chelsea. As much as I wanted Silva to go I'm filled with anxiety due to not knowing who we'll get next. A bad appointment could put is in an even bigger mess. agree with all of this, top post Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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