StevO Posted August 26, 2021 Report Share Posted August 26, 2021 1 hour ago, Zoo 2.0 said: Taking a massive loss on what we paid, plus will probably replace him with Neil fucking Maupay. .......yaaaaay No loss at all. There was a loan fee from PSG last season and there will be a loan fee from Juventus, plus the obligation. If anything we’ll have made a profit on him. Throw in the reduction in his transfer value from two years of amortisation, it’ll show as a good profit on the books. Maupay, yeah, I agree. Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted August 26, 2021 Report Share Posted August 26, 2021 51 minutes ago, London Blue said: Didn't we get a loan fee from PSG last season for his loan, and presumably Juve will be paying a loan fee as well for the loan for this season, so we probably made some money. Plus we have not paid his wages for 2 seasons. Sorry LB, only just got down to this post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Blue Posted August 27, 2021 Report Share Posted August 27, 2021 54 minutes ago, StevO said: Sorry LB, only just got down to this post. No worries, great minds and all that StevO 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aidan Posted August 27, 2021 Report Share Posted August 27, 2021 7 hours ago, Zoo 2.0 said: Taking a massive loss on what we paid, plus will probably replace him with Neil fucking Maupay. .......yaaaaay Right now Maupay would benefit out team way more than Kean. I'd also imagine we would have made money on him (but not much) considering the loan fee and wages covered last season + a loan fee for this deal as well as the tranfer fee at the end. c1982, Matt and Palfy 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted August 27, 2021 Report Share Posted August 27, 2021 12 minutes ago, Aidan said: Right now Maupay would benefit out team way more than Kean. He would, I rate Maupay he would giive us a different type of striker and goal threat we don’t have at the moment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dunlopp9987 Posted August 27, 2021 Report Share Posted August 27, 2021 https://www.tuttosport.com/news/calcio/serie-a/juventus/2021/08/27-84856281/juventus_il_primo_del_dopo_ronaldo_e_kean If you don't want to translate, sounds like he will have his medical this weekend. Loan with an option to buy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted August 27, 2021 Report Share Posted August 27, 2021 18 minutes ago, dunlopp9987 said: https://www.tuttosport.com/news/calcio/serie-a/juventus/2021/08/27-84856281/juventus_il_primo_del_dopo_ronaldo_e_kean If you don't want to translate, sounds like he will have his medical this weekend. Loan with an option to buy. No use to us at all that, surely? Gwlad and chicagoblue 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dunlopp9987 Posted August 27, 2021 Report Share Posted August 27, 2021 12 minutes ago, MikeO said: No use to us at all that, surely? Nope! chicagoblue 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harv Posted August 27, 2021 Report Share Posted August 27, 2021 1 hour ago, dunlopp9987 said: Nope! Do you mean the player or the deal or both. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted August 28, 2021 Report Share Posted August 28, 2021 13 hours ago, MikeO said: No use to us at all that, surely? Why not? We won't loan for free, and obligation to buy is money effectively on the books early. That article doesn't mention a fee (that I can see pre-coffee) though so for a feeling it's Italian media making stuff up since Ronaldo is leaving. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted August 28, 2021 Report Share Posted August 28, 2021 Just now, Matt said: Why not? We won't loan for free, and obligation to buy is money effectively on the books early. That article doesn't mention a fee though so for a feeling it's Italian media making stuff up since Ronaldo is leaving. It said option to buy, not obligation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted August 28, 2021 Report Share Posted August 28, 2021 1 minute ago, MikeO said: It said option to buy, not obligation. So I need to shut up and get my coffee... Still, it wouldn't be a free loan, so I was partly right! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c1982 Posted August 28, 2021 Report Share Posted August 28, 2021 I’ve read that if a set number of appearances/minutes is met, there will be an obligation to buy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Aidan Posted August 28, 2021 Report Share Posted August 28, 2021 London Blue 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aidan Posted August 28, 2021 Report Share Posted August 28, 2021 Wonder what the certain conditions are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Blue Posted August 28, 2021 Report Share Posted August 28, 2021 Just now, Aidan said: Wonder what the certain conditions are. Games played, and no injury? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted August 28, 2021 Report Share Posted August 28, 2021 Another potential loss great business from the maestro Brands. dunlopp9987 and markjazzbassist 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted August 28, 2021 Report Share Posted August 28, 2021 Not a loss mate. 20m and three loan fees. We won’t make much, but a profit is still a profit. Matt, Romey 1878 and dunlopp9987 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c1982 Posted August 28, 2021 Report Share Posted August 28, 2021 Does the reported fee factor in that we probably owe instalments over the rest of his contract so I guess these would stop and probably save us £10m (based on £5m a year but don’t know how the original deal was structured)? The only thing that matters is what it looks like on our balance sheet and that it allows us to bring players in. Matt, Romey 1878 and Sibdane 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpartyBlue Posted August 28, 2021 Report Share Posted August 28, 2021 17 minutes ago, Palfy said: Another potential loss great business from the maestro Brands. This is unfair. Godfrey? Allan? Doucoure? James? Niels? Ancelotti? Etc.. just in the last year. If you’re going to be critical of the “failures” then at least acknowledge the successes. Also, most would say the talent is there with Moise. Should Brands have been able to predict how his attitude would be once DCL took off and his path to game time was hindered? Should he have known his head would turn after a high profile loan to PSG? We took a shot with Kean. It doesn’t make it a bad move because it didn’t work out. Seems unlikely we will lose any money on the deal so I don’t really get jumping on Brands for taking a shot on a guy who I’m betting will be worth significantly more than we paid in short order. We aren’t Man United or Barca. Our prospects aren’t likely to come risk free at this point. MikeO, Shukes and RuffRob 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted August 28, 2021 Report Share Posted August 28, 2021 26 minutes ago, Palfy said: Another potential loss great business from the maestro Brands. Maths really isn't your strong suit, is it? StevO and MikeO 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted August 28, 2021 Report Share Posted August 28, 2021 We knew he didn’t want to be here. Should have gotten more, we paid more and he did well at PSG so his stock is higher, but this is brands so we barely eek a profit. Just a bad signing from beginning to end. The whole mom bit in the press conference, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted August 28, 2021 Report Share Posted August 28, 2021 Now get wheeling and dealing to bring a striker in, and please not fucking Rondon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted August 28, 2021 Report Share Posted August 28, 2021 57 minutes ago, Matt said: Maths really isn't your strong suit, is it? We paid £27 million and €20 million is about £16.5-£17 million, I know a lot stuff goes over my head but don’t know what I’m missing on this one bar possibly a brain Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted August 28, 2021 Report Share Posted August 28, 2021 We’ve already been paid two years loan fees… guessing 4m each? And another coming in from Juve? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted August 28, 2021 Report Share Posted August 28, 2021 21 minutes ago, markjazzbassist said: We knew he didn’t want to be here. Should have gotten more, we paid more and he did well at PSG so his stock is higher, but this is brands so we barely eek a profit. Just a bad signing from beginning to end. The whole mom bit in the press conference, etc. Problem is…. He didn’t do well at PSG. He was a stop gap due to injury’s, and he did ok. But teams at still undecided about him because of this same reason. He was only a bench player, but so would 95% of the worlds forwards be playing in a team with that much talent. This is why he is still a risk for teams. They want to look at him first. edit: that’s wrong of me. He did do well. Just not enough to prove himself a first team player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted August 28, 2021 Report Share Posted August 28, 2021 2 hours ago, Shukes said: We’ve already been paid two years loan fees… guessing 4m each? And another coming in from Juve? His wages are on top of the 27 million not part of the 27 million we paid for him, they didn’t give us 4 million a year and pay his wages on top of that, they gave us jack shit and paid his wages, and whether they paid them in full is debatable we possibly still contributed a percentage. markjazzbassist 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted August 28, 2021 Report Share Posted August 28, 2021 2 hours ago, markjazzbassist said: We knew he didn’t want to be here. Should have gotten more, we paid more and he did well at PSG so his stock is higher, but this is brands so we barely eek a profit. Just a bad signing from beginning to end. The whole mom bit in the press conference, etc. On my reckoning we’ve lost just over £10 million and on top of that what ever we’ve paid him in wages, we don’t eek a small profit we lose 40+% markjazzbassist 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted August 28, 2021 Report Share Posted August 28, 2021 23 minutes ago, Palfy said: On my reckoning we’ve lost just over £10 million and on top of that what ever we’ve paid him in wages, we don’t eek a small profit we lose 40+% you and I both know if steve walsh did this he would be getting ripped apart on here, Brands does it and it's seen as a good move Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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