barryj Posted September 15, 2020 Report Share Posted September 15, 2020 I’d go DCL and Kean up top. DCL doesn’t need a rest and needs goals to boost confidence. A top striker will look at this fixture and lick his lips as they are only ever judged on goals and this will give him a great opportunity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FairWooney Posted September 16, 2020 Report Share Posted September 16, 2020 Pickford/Virginia Kenny Mina Keane (Holgate in for one of them if fit) Nkonkou Allan Sigurdson Gordon Bernard Iwobi Kean Something like this would do me Bench that includes DCL, Richarlison and James Other options would be Walcott and Bolasie. EDIT: Forgot about Besic, not sure about putting him in, depends how he's looking fitness wise and what Carlo thinks. when changing the team a lot that's a position want to rely on so if Allan is up for game time I'd stick with him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aidan Posted September 16, 2020 Report Share Posted September 16, 2020 16 minutes ago, FairWooney said: Pickford/Virginia Kenny Mina Keane (Holgate in for one of them if fit) Nkonkou Allan Sigurdson Gordon Bernard Iwobi Kean Something like this would do me Bench that includes DCL, Richarlison and James Other options would be Walcott and Bolasie. EDIT: Forgot about Besic, not sure about putting him in, depends how he's looking fitness wise and what Carlo thinks. when changing the team a lot that's a position want to rely on so if Allan is up for game time I'd stick with him. Holgate is out for up to 12 weeks I think mate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FairWooney Posted September 16, 2020 Report Share Posted September 16, 2020 shit, didn't realise it was that bad. hoping we get a backup then more than i did before! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpartyBlue Posted September 16, 2020 Report Share Posted September 16, 2020 17 hours ago, Btay said: Allan/ Doucoure are different kind of athletes though. I'd love to say we can play a second string team and get a win here but seeing how we have been over the last few years im not totally confident. Nothing would be more Everton of the past to make such a statement in the window, first game of the season to then get knocked out of the cup by salford. We were embarrassed by liverpools U23's last year because we played our first team, now people are asking for nearly that seem team to play here and think it would be a walk over. No athlete is immune from the injury risk a number of games in a short time span with a shortened preseason would bring. They aren’t 22 either. Can you imagine what the response will be if any key player gets hurt in a game like this? The priority this season is Europe and the most likely path is our league finish. I would not risk our result Saturday or our longterm prospects because we think Gylfi, Iwobi, Kean, Davies, Kenny etc.. aren’t good enough to beat a league 2 side. We have a squad for a reason and if you’re not playing the reserves in a game like this then all they are is insurance against injuries. AlbanyNYToffee, Sibdane and Matt 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dunlopp9987 Posted September 16, 2020 Report Share Posted September 16, 2020 Any chance us Yanks will have access to watching this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlbanyNYToffee Posted September 16, 2020 Report Share Posted September 16, 2020 23 minutes ago, dunlopp9987 said: Any chance us Yanks will have access to watching this? Espn+ baby! They've got contracts for both cups. dunlopp9987 and markjazzbassist 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlbanyNYToffee Posted September 16, 2020 Report Share Posted September 16, 2020 Took a few mins on lunch to take a look at other PL clubs and how they approached this round. Found it even more interesting than anticipated. So far Newcastle, West Ham, Crystal Palace, West Brom and Fulham have announced lineups. # of starters from PL game to start Cup game: Newcastle: 1 Javier Manquillo West Ham: 1 Issa Diop Palace: 0 West Brom: 1 Dara O'Shea Fulham: 2 Denis Odoi and Neeskens Kebano For those saying most of these are just trying to avoid relegation I completely agree with you but wouldn't we also expect their fans to say avoiding relegation is more important than Round 2 of the Carabao Cup. It's a very similar argument to the top 4/6 convo. @SpartyBluesaid it well above. We have a squad of players use them. It's a gosh darn League 2 side! Matt and pete0 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chicagoblue Posted September 16, 2020 Report Share Posted September 16, 2020 31 minutes ago, AlbanyNYToffee said: Took a few mins on lunch to take a look at other PL clubs and how they approached this round. Found it even more interesting than anticipated. So far Newcastle, West Ham, Crystal Palace, West Brom and Fulham have announced lineups. # of starters from PL game to start Cup game: Newcastle: 1 Javier Manquillo West Ham: 1 Issa Diop Palace: 0 West Brom: 1 Dara O'Shea Fulham: 2 Denis Odoi and Neeskens Kebano For those saying most of these are just trying to avoid relegation I completely agree with you but wouldn't we also expect their fans to say avoiding relegation is more important than Round 2 of the Carabao Cup. It's a very similar argument to the top 4/6 convo. @SpartyBluesaid it well above. We have a squad of players use them. It's a gosh darn League 2 side! Southampton on the other hand playing a full first team 11 (or at least 10) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted September 16, 2020 Report Share Posted September 16, 2020 chicagoblue, markjazzbassist and London Blue 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aidan Posted September 16, 2020 Report Share Posted September 16, 2020 markjazzbassist and London Blue 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted September 16, 2020 Report Share Posted September 16, 2020 Just now, Aidan said: Too slow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted September 16, 2020 Report Share Posted September 16, 2020 1 minute ago, Aidan said: Is Iwobi injured. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aidan Posted September 16, 2020 Report Share Posted September 16, 2020 Just now, MikeO said: Too slow Mine looked nicer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gwlad Posted September 16, 2020 Report Share Posted September 16, 2020 Just now, MikeO said: Too slow Great to see you on the case Mike!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aidan Posted September 16, 2020 Report Share Posted September 16, 2020 1 minute ago, Palfy said: Is Iwobi injured. No he's shite. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Btay Posted September 16, 2020 Author Report Share Posted September 16, 2020 3 hours ago, SpartyBlue said: No athlete is immune from the injury risk a number of games in a short time span with a shortened preseason would bring. They aren’t 22 either. Can you imagine what the response will be if any key player gets hurt in a game like this? The priority this season is Europe and the most likely path is our league finish. I would not risk our result Saturday or our longterm prospects because we think Gylfi, Iwobi, Kean, Davies, Kenny etc.. aren’t good enough to beat a league 2 side. We have a squad for a reason and if you’re not playing the reserves in a game like this then all they are is insurance against injuries. They proved last year they weren’t good enough to beat an under 23 side..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted September 16, 2020 Report Share Posted September 16, 2020 Just now, Gwlad all over said: Great to see you on the case Mike!! I'm full of drugs so unlikely to reach the end Aidan 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chicagoblue Posted September 16, 2020 Report Share Posted September 16, 2020 3 minutes ago, Palfy said: Is Iwobi injured. Hope so... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Btay Posted September 16, 2020 Author Report Share Posted September 16, 2020 36 minutes ago, AlbanyNYToffee said: Took a few mins on lunch to take a look at other PL clubs and how they approached this round. Found it even more interesting than anticipated. So far Newcastle, West Ham, Crystal Palace, West Brom and Fulham have announced lineups. # of starters from PL game to start Cup game: Newcastle: 1 Javier Manquillo West Ham: 1 Issa Diop Palace: 0 West Brom: 1 Dara O'Shea Fulham: 2 Denis Odoi and Neeskens Kebano For those saying most of these are just trying to avoid relegation I completely agree with you but wouldn't we also expect their fans to say avoiding relegation is more important than Round 2 of the Carabao Cup. It's a very similar argument to the top 4/6 convo. @SpartyBluesaid it well above. We have a squad of players use them. It's a gosh darn League 2 side! The whole world is watching us as a club right now, we have people that had never taken a moments interest in us - we really cannot slip up against a league 2 side. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aidan Posted September 16, 2020 Report Share Posted September 16, 2020 Just now, MikeO said: I'm full of drugs so unlikely to reach the end Hopefully you dont need as many this season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gwlad Posted September 16, 2020 Report Share Posted September 16, 2020 Good looking bench though (actually, no. Only DCL and Digne) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted September 16, 2020 Report Share Posted September 16, 2020 Just now, Aidan said: No he's shite. fair enough, just that I read something today that said Carlo has Kean and him down as surplus to requirements. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barryj Posted September 16, 2020 Report Share Posted September 16, 2020 Well with that many changes these have to really pull up their socks and put in a performance. Hopefully these lot will have new enthusiasm and commitment. I’d of rather less changes therefore for me: Win - superb lineup Lose - Furious with lineup Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Btay Posted September 16, 2020 Author Report Share Posted September 16, 2020 6 minutes ago, MikeO said: I hope they get the job done. Hope Virginia has a good game after his reading loan. Sigurrdson has to be a leader Sibdane 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aidan Posted September 16, 2020 Report Share Posted September 16, 2020 Just now, Palfy said: fair enough, just that I read something today that said Carlo has Kean and him down as surplus to requirements. Fingers crossed he's in the middle of a move! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isaiah Posted September 16, 2020 Report Share Posted September 16, 2020 4 minutes ago, Gwlad all over said: Good looking bench though (actually, no. Only DCL and Digne) Richarlison, Allan, Doucoure and Coleman are also on the bench. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted September 16, 2020 Report Share Posted September 16, 2020 where is lossl? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlbanyNYToffee Posted September 16, 2020 Report Share Posted September 16, 2020 7 minutes ago, Btay said: The whole world is watching us as a club right now, we have people that had never taken a moments interest in us - we really cannot slip up against a league 2 side. Colombia is hardly the whole world 6 minutes ago, Palfy said: fair enough, just that I read something today that said Carlo has Kean and him down as surplus to requirements. Not looking good for Iwobi. No sign of Besic or Bolasie either. On 15/09/2020 at 11:52, AlbanyNYToffee said: With all the craziness in terms of last season ending, short preseason and quick turnaround I'm hoping for full rotation but the same shape. Would like us to keep the same shape as much as possible. Lossl/Virginia Kenny Branthwaite Gibson Nkounkou Gordon Besic Davies Siggy Bernard Kean Almost got it. Interesting no Gibson in the squad. Must be close to a loan move? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted September 16, 2020 Report Share Posted September 16, 2020 2 minutes ago, AlbanyNYToffee said: Colombia is hardly the whole world Not looking good for Iwobi. No sign of Besic or Bolasie either. Almost got it. Interesting no Gibson in the squad. Must be close to a loan move? It would seem something is afoot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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