MikeO Posted May 13, 2021 Report Share Posted May 13, 2021 Emiliano Martinez cost us the three points I think, quality 'keeper destined for bigger clubs than Villa. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badaids Posted May 13, 2021 Report Share Posted May 13, 2021 That was dogshit. I'm always amazed by the lack of intensity and and adventure from our teams. What happens to players once they pull on a blue shirt? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonsta Posted May 13, 2021 Report Share Posted May 13, 2021 That team of play safe, go backwards, show no desire turned up again. We have a team who try not to lose, rather than a team who want to win, sooner this season is over the better. Villa were poor and there for the taking, they lose there 2 best players and it does not affect them, we lose good players and we are crap. Bailey 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gwlad Posted May 13, 2021 Report Share Posted May 13, 2021 Arrivaderci Roma, Verona, Bologna etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elston Gunnn Posted May 13, 2021 Report Share Posted May 13, 2021 DCL with several header chances, just not quite today. We also had 3-4 decent chances from top of box, but none of Doucouré, Allan, or Gomes can strike the ball with authority. I wanted Sigurdsson off, but honestly if he’d had those shots, he probably would have connected on one of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted May 13, 2021 Report Share Posted May 13, 2021 You'd have thought that was a game with nothing riding on it whatsoever. So nothingy it's unbelievable, and another game that highlights just how desperate we are for some pace in this side. I actually thought we looked pretty decent when we got on the ball and caused them problems, but we didn't have enough of it or even want more of it. If we'd shown a bit more want, a bit more industry, the three points were there for us to take. I have no doubt about that. Gomes looked good when he came on. Iwobi did not. London Blue 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c1982 Posted May 13, 2021 Report Share Posted May 13, 2021 2 minutes ago, Romey 1878 said: You'd have thought that was a game with nothing riding on it whatsoever. So nothingy it's unbelievable, and another game that highlights just how desperate we are for some pace in this side. I actually thought we looked pretty decent when we got on the ball and caused them problems, but we didn't have enough of it or even want more of it. If we'd shown a bit more want, a bit more industry, the three points were there for us to take. I have no doubt about that. Gomes looked good when he came on. Iwobi did not. Agree with the first part and Gomes did look good but he had 2 massive moments where he really should have done better. That first one especially- the pass to Richarlison was not hard - that’s the difference between taking all 3 points and the frustration of another missed opportunity. MikeO 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aidan Posted May 13, 2021 Report Share Posted May 13, 2021 At the end of last season Carlo did a press conference saying the team lacked desire and needed to come back with a different mindset. Im still not sure this team has any more desire nearly 12 months on. Elston Gunnn, markjazzbassist and Bailey 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted May 13, 2021 Report Share Posted May 13, 2021 Another poor performance although our best moments came in that last 10 minutes when we got after them. Allan was exposed time and time again and whilst he got better, it was comfortably his worst game. He looked leggy and slow, almost like the pitch was too big for him. The idea that him and Doucoure together would improve our offensive performance has gone up in smoke in that game where McGinn beat them both to the punch time and time again. I have no idea how Seamus stayed on the pitch so long in that right midfield role in a must win game. Contrary to popular opinion, I thought Iwobi added a bit more intent, not that it meant anything tangible apart from a couple of overhit crosses. Siggurdson was a pointless selection today, absolutely nothing. Gomes came on and played well, albeit fluffing his lines when it mattered. Dom and Richarlison had their typical game. Huffing and puffing but lacking in quality. I am still not sure they passed to eachother all game. I hoped the West Ham game would provide some impetus but it wasnt to be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted May 13, 2021 Report Share Posted May 13, 2021 3 minutes ago, c1982 said: Agree with the first part and Gomes did look good but he had 2 massive moments where he really should have done better. That first one especially- the pass to Richarlison was not hard - that’s the difference between taking all 3 points and the frustration of another missed opportunity. I'm not sure the pass to Richarlison was such a good option, he looked like he would've had a Villa player on him, but I only saw it in real time and then the one replay. After deciding to shoot, though, he should have at least been hitting the target. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milesey05 Posted May 13, 2021 Report Share Posted May 13, 2021 Was playing tonight so caught the first 30 mins and last 15 mins. saw enough not to go back and watch the minutes missed! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted May 13, 2021 Report Share Posted May 13, 2021 5 hours ago, MikeO said: Vic's what? Ah very good! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted May 13, 2021 Report Share Posted May 13, 2021 1 minute ago, Hafnia said: Ah very good! Was a tap in mate, you left an open goal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted May 14, 2021 Report Share Posted May 14, 2021 In other news, Tyrone Mings is fucking shite and how he wasn’t sent off after VAR looked at it is beyond me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Btay Posted May 14, 2021 Report Share Posted May 14, 2021 8 hours ago, Romey 1878 said: In other news, Tyrone Mings is fucking shite and how he wasn’t sent off after VAR looked at it is beyond me. Shouldn’t he have gone off as well after receiving treatment before dignes long throw - that mings won the header for... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted May 14, 2021 Report Share Posted May 14, 2021 2 hours ago, Btay said: Shouldn’t he have gone off as well after receiving treatment before dignes long throw - that mings won the header for... Yep. Martin Atkinson all over - Allan pointed it out to him before the throw-in was taken, and he just arrogantly waved him away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoo 2.0 Posted May 14, 2021 Report Share Posted May 14, 2021 3 hours ago, Btay said: Shouldn’t he have gone off as well after receiving treatment before dignes long throw - that mings won the header for... As there were two Villa players injured (and both needing treatment) the laws allow both players to remain on the field. The goalkeeper wouldn't need to leave the field anyway, but as he went down it meant that Mings could remain on the pitch. Btay 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted May 14, 2021 Report Share Posted May 14, 2021 4 hours ago, Btay said: Shouldn’t he have gone off as well after receiving treatment before dignes long throw - that mings won the header for... 1 hour ago, Romey 1878 said: Yep. Martin Atkinson all over - Allan pointed it out to him before the throw-in was taken, and he just arrogantly waved him away. 1 hour ago, Zoo 2.0 said: As there were two Villa players injured (and both needing treatment) the laws allow both players to remain on the field. The goalkeeper wouldn't need to leave the field anyway, but as he went down it meant that Mings could remain on the pitch. I thought the same as well but apparently when it is a clash between a defender and the keeper both players can stay on the pitch. Btay 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted May 14, 2021 Report Share Posted May 14, 2021 I found the VAR decision a bit of a strange one. A few weeks ago Stones was sent off for trying to kick the ball and missing against Villa. The ball was high but it was clearly innocent and couldn't have been avoided. You can't stop your kick half way through. The following week we had a similar sending off. For the life of me I can't remember who it was but I think they kicked the ball and the follow through of the kick was deemed dangerous and he was sent off (later appealed I think). Again it was innocent, its a natural collision in a game of football that will happen from time to time. In this Mings case the ball is bouncing, he looks to be going for the ball to start with but then once its clear Dom is going to get there, Mings moves his leg back across to make sure he catches Dom. I don't think there is a lot of force behind it, but the intent was clear IMO and was far worse than the other two incidents that were deemed to be red cards using VAR. It is one thing making an honest mistake in real time, it is another using video technology and still making the wrong decision. Romey 1878 and pete0 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Btay Posted May 14, 2021 Report Share Posted May 14, 2021 1 hour ago, Zoo 2.0 said: As there were two Villa players injured (and both needing treatment) the laws allow both players to remain on the field. The goalkeeper wouldn't need to leave the field anyway, but as he went down it meant that Mings could remain on the pitch. Cheers mate - knew about the keeper staying on for obvious reasons but didn’t know that rule! Romey 1878 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted May 14, 2021 Report Share Posted May 14, 2021 3 hours ago, Bailey said: I found the VAR decision a bit of a strange one. A few weeks ago Stones was sent off for trying to kick the ball and missing against Villa. The ball was high but it was clearly innocent and couldn't have been avoided. You can't stop your kick half way through. The following week we had a similar sending off. For the life of me I can't remember who it was but I think they kicked the ball and the follow through of the kick was deemed dangerous and he was sent off (later appealed I think). Again it was innocent, its a natural collision in a game of football that will happen from time to time. In this Mings case the ball is bouncing, he looks to be going for the ball to start with but then once its clear Dom is going to get there, Mings moves his leg back across to make sure he catches Dom. I don't think there is a lot of force behind it, but the intent was clear IMO and was far worse than the other two incidents that were deemed to be red cards using VAR. It is one thing making an honest mistake in real time, it is another using video technology and still making the wrong decision. It was the lad from Leeds against Liverpool I believe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted May 14, 2021 Report Share Posted May 14, 2021 34 minutes ago, Matt said: It was the lad from Leeds against Liverpool I believe Balbuena for West Ham. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted May 14, 2021 Report Share Posted May 14, 2021 1 minute ago, Romey 1878 said: Balbuena for West Ham. That lad too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete0 Posted May 15, 2021 Report Share Posted May 15, 2021 Deary me. Gomes has to pass that one. markjazzbassist and MikeO 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted May 15, 2021 Author Report Share Posted May 15, 2021 yeah pete it was pretty obvious. DCL missed a good few as well that he should have aimed better. grasping at straws but at least we didn't lose? we got a point? yeah better than a loss. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Btay Posted May 15, 2021 Report Share Posted May 15, 2021 5 hours ago, pete0 said: Deary me. Gomes has to pass that one. I’m not upset that he took the shot on. He hasn’t got the advantage of a still shot to asses the situation. The execution though was poor - has to hit the target at least Romey 1878 and Matt 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted May 15, 2021 Report Share Posted May 15, 2021 6 hours ago, pete0 said: Deary me. Gomes has to pass that one. The pass was definitely more on than I thought. 40 minutes ago, Btay said: I’m not upset that he took the shot on. He hasn’t got the advantage of a still shot to asses the situation. The execution though was poor - has to hit the target at least But this as well. I've got no problem with a player shooting when he's in that position, but he's got to do better and at least be testing the keeper out. Matt and Btay 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted May 15, 2021 Report Share Posted May 15, 2021 He just needed that bit of composure. The difference between James and a lot of other players is that he calms himself down and slots that in the corner with either foot as if it was impossible to miss. Gomes wanted to leather it and made it look a harder chance than it was. Romey 1878 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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