Goodison Glory Posted July 23, 2023 Report Share Posted July 23, 2023 I think we are no worse off than last season....that's not to say I'm delighted with the squad...I just don't think we are worse off. mina/coady - essentially replaced by branthwaite. simms didn't contribute much either and I'm sure cannon won't do any worse. Davies didn't contribute much either but in terms of a body let's just say Gomes has replaced him. Vinagre didn't play really but for this exercise, Young can replace him. the other senior players who left didn't contribute anything either - Moise Kean and Townsend. financially we are better off (still in the shit but we are def better off than last year) Add to this Danjuma and we are def not worse off, you could argue we are better off both in terms of personnel and finances. That doesn't mean we don't need to strengthen. AlbanyNYToffee, Shukes and London Blue 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plaidharper Posted July 23, 2023 Report Share Posted July 23, 2023 2 hours ago, RPG said: The only thing that worries me is that, at the wrong time, we lose non Afcon players to injuries and suspensions, then lose the Afcon players to the Afcon tournament. I am not sure we have the depth to cope with that. afcon is not until 2025 right? so a few more windows until then Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dunlopp9987 Posted July 23, 2023 Report Share Posted July 23, 2023 10 minutes ago, plaidharper said: afcon is not until 2025 right? so a few more windows until then https://www.eurosport.com/football/africa-cup-of-nations-2023-finals-have-been-postponed-and-moved-to-january-2024-due-to-weather-conce_sto9017466/story.shtml Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plaidharper Posted July 23, 2023 Report Share Posted July 23, 2023 36 minutes ago, dunlopp9987 said: https://www.eurosport.com/football/africa-cup-of-nations-2023-finals-have-been-postponed-and-moved-to-january-2024-due-to-weather-conce_sto9017466/story.shtml ah somehow missed that. probably helped us in staying up last season tbh. beat arsenal and leeds around those times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Btay Posted July 23, 2023 Report Share Posted July 23, 2023 Happy with Danjuma & Young so far. Hopefully we add Gnonto & the young striker we are going after. Maybe a loan deal for a CB or back up keeper as well. StevO and Sibdane 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted July 24, 2023 Report Share Posted July 24, 2023 We were 30 minutes away from being relegated last season so every single contribution by players we’ve lost was hugely significant Coady played 24 time last season and had a major influence in the first half of the season and along with Mina was a huge character/ leader in the dressing room so whilst we all hope Branthwaite can hit the ground running and go some way to filling the void they’ve left I still think they will be missed The bottom line is the squad depth was woeful last season and we now have an even smaller squad so it’s still a major concern, especially with the Afcon looming The versatility of Young and Danjuma will be vital and will go some way to appeasing that . If we can get El Bilal Toure and Gnoto over the line then things will look a lot healthier but I’m still concerned over who the three expected outgoing are Looks like Tom Cannon to PNE is one of those , and I think that’s a good move for all concerned IF we get a CF in If the other 2 are any from Gbamin, Holgate , Maupay or Gomes then fair enough we can take the hit Matt and Sibdane 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlbanyNYToffee Posted July 25, 2023 Author Report Share Posted July 25, 2023 IN: YoungOUT: Nkounkou, Kean, Simms, Samuels-SmithLOAN IN: DanjumaLOAN OUT: Tyrer CONTRACT RENEWED/EXTENDED: Seamus, Lonergan, J VirginiaYOUTH CONTRACTS: Sherif, Jones, Barker, Tierney, Heath, Butler, DjankpataOut of contract: Begovic, Mina, Davies, Townsend Returned to parent club: Coady, Vinagre Depth: GK - Pickford, Virginia, Lonergan RB - Patterson, Coleman CB - Tarky, Branthwaite, Keane, Godfrey, Holgate LB - Mykolenko, Young CM - Gana, Onana, Doucoure, Garner, Dele, Gbamin, Gomes, Warrington, Onyango W - Iwobi, McNeil, Danjuma, Gray ST - DCL, Maupay, Cannon, Dobbin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boston Toffee Posted July 25, 2023 Report Share Posted July 25, 2023 So who is next? In or out. Still sounds like tiny bit of hope on El Toure.. Che Adams? Ianneacho? Out maybe Gray or Holgate. Still lots of questions Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted July 25, 2023 Report Share Posted July 25, 2023 Myers said no known contact with Southampton over Che Adams if that helps! Romey 1878 and Matt 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trigger Posted July 25, 2023 Report Share Posted July 25, 2023 35 minutes ago, Bailey said: Myers said no known contact with Southampton over Che Adams if that helps! Well that's good news. Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlbanyNYToffee Posted July 27, 2023 Author Report Share Posted July 27, 2023 IN: YoungOUT: Nkounkou, Kean, Simms, Samuels-SmithLOAN IN: DanjumaLOAN OUT: Tyrer, Warrington, Mills CONTRACT RENEWED/EXTENDED: Seamus, Lonergan, J VirginiaYOUTH CONTRACTS: Sherif, Jones, Barker, Tierney, Heath, Butler, Djankpata Depth: GK - Pickford, Virginia, Lonergan RB - Patterson, Coleman CB - Tarky, Branthwaite, Keane, Godfrey, Holgate LB - Mykolenko, Young CM - Gana, Onana, Doucoure, Garner, Dele, Gbamin, Gomes, Onyango W - Iwobi, McNeil, Danjuma, Gray ST - DCL, Maupay, Cannon, Dobbin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goodison Glory Posted July 27, 2023 Report Share Posted July 27, 2023 For completeness you should prob add contracts expired (Davies/Mina etc) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goodison Glory Posted July 27, 2023 Report Share Posted July 27, 2023 1 hour ago, AlbanyNYToffee said: IN: YoungOUT: Nkounkou, Kean, Simms, Samuels-SmithLOAN IN: DanjumaLOAN OUT: Tyrer, Warrington, Mills CONTRACT RENEWED/EXTENDED: Seamus, Lonergan, J VirginiaYOUTH CONTRACTS: Sherif, Jones, Barker, Tierney, Heath, Butler, Djankpata Depth: GK - Pickford, Virginia, Lonergan RB - Patterson, Coleman CB - Tarky, Branthwaite, Keane, Godfrey, Holgate LB - Mykolenko, Young CM - Gana, Onana, Doucoure, Garner, Dele, Gbamin, Gomes, Onyango W - Iwobi, McNeil, Danjuma, Gray ST - DCL, Maupay, Cannon, Dobbin Given our situation I'd be relatively happy with that squad as long as we did say 3 more (one in/one out moves like Maupay, Gbamin and maybe Holgate - assuming the 3 in were upgrades. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted July 28, 2023 Report Share Posted July 28, 2023 If we look at this window so far as adding for the future it’s very disappointing, we have signed one player for a year and loaned another for a year with no option to buy, both very short term influences on the team, with about 5 weeks to go in this window it would be nice to get a couple of players for the long term. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wall Writer Posted July 28, 2023 Report Share Posted July 28, 2023 Seems to have gone a bit quiet considering when Danjuma came in, we allegedly had another one pretty much coming in at the same time and one more coming a little after that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c1982 Posted July 28, 2023 Report Share Posted July 28, 2023 Just now, Wall Writer said: Seems to have gone a bit quiet considering when Danjuma came in, we allegedly had another one pretty much coming in at the same time and one more coming a little after that? Myers confirmed Toure as the striker but that seems beyond us now and commented on the Gnonto links which may go on for a little while but confirmed contact. Wall Writer 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Btay Posted July 29, 2023 Report Share Posted July 29, 2023 Posted in the wrong and can’t delete sooo I’ll just pretend to chat about the transfer window… Think gray is worth keeping in the squad if it’s only 10 million or so… StevO and Matt 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted July 29, 2023 Report Share Posted July 29, 2023 We really need to bring in signings before the Fulham game. I hope like hell today's performance gives the club a bit of urgency on that score. Newty82 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted July 29, 2023 Report Share Posted July 29, 2023 25 minutes ago, Romey 1878 said: We really need to bring in signings before the Fulham game. I hope like hell today's performance gives the club a bit of urgency on that score. Today’s performance must be telling the club that we are in need. We look absolutely terrible. Wall Writer and Romey 1878 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted July 29, 2023 Report Share Posted July 29, 2023 1 hour ago, Shukes said: Today’s performance must be telling the club that we are in need. We look absolutely terrible. Make ya mind up not long ago you were telling us we were alright I never had the chance to watch it family shit and all that malarkey, what area or areas were we lacking in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted July 29, 2023 Report Share Posted July 29, 2023 9 minutes ago, Palfy said: Make ya mind up not long ago you were telling us we were alright I never had the chance to watch it family shit and all that malarkey, what area or areas were we lacking in. Attack and defence. Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted July 29, 2023 Report Share Posted July 29, 2023 I think its easier to name the positions we don't need. Both centre backs look shaky. Patterson doesn't defend or attack well enough to be first choice. Midfield lacks almost any quality, its saving grace is the energy from Doucoure, Onana and Gueye(ish). Garner might patch it all together when he is match fit but its a big ask. Iwobi on the right wing will do a job but he is inconsistent as hell. We need a striker that can act as a focal point when Dom is injured. Not too much to be concerned about. dunlopp9987 and Wall Writer 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c1982 Posted July 29, 2023 Report Share Posted July 29, 2023 1 minute ago, Bailey said: I think its easier to name the positions we don't need. Both centre backs look shaky. Patterson doesn't defend or attack well enough to be first choice. Midfield lacks almost any quality, its saving grace is the energy from Doucoure, Onana and Gueye(ish). Garner might patch it all together when he is match fit but its a big ask. Iwobi on the right wing will do a job but he is inconsistent as hell. We need a striker that can act as a focal point when Dom is injured. Not too much to be concerned about. Probably the most positive post you’ve ever posted - fair play Shukes, Bailey, Romey 1878 and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted July 29, 2023 Report Share Posted July 29, 2023 1 hour ago, Palfy said: Make ya mind up not long ago you were telling us we were alright I never had the chance to watch it family shit and all that malarkey, what area or areas were we lacking in. We were ok off the pitch, on it…. Pretty much shit all over mate. We did put a few good balls in the box second half, but Maupay was never going to do anything with them. Set up a few good shooting opportunities… which all seemed to fall to Gana Final ball was really lacking as usual. Hope your family time was better than watching that mate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted July 29, 2023 Report Share Posted July 29, 2023 37 minutes ago, Shukes said: We were ok off the pitch, on it…. Pretty much shit all over mate. We did put a few good balls in the box second half, but Maupay was never going to do anything with them. Set up a few good shooting opportunities… which all seemed to fall to Gana Final ball was really lacking as usual. Hope your family time was better than watching that mate. Very worrying Fulham in a couple of weeks and transfer window closes in just over 4 weeks, thanks for the update mate it’s not hard to picture it after your post, sounds a bit like normal service has resumed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Blue Posted July 29, 2023 Report Share Posted July 29, 2023 Will be last minute transfers as we have little money and players will come to us once we are the most attractive option, which will be when most pl clubs have signed their players. So feeding off scraps. I'm sure there are some good deals to be had. I believe we will sign 3 or 4 more at least. Just a question of who, and how long they take to settle. Not to mention how good they are. Our window probably starts in a weeks time. Gwlad 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dunlopp9987 Posted July 29, 2023 Report Share Posted July 29, 2023 Looking like another season where we hope there are 3 teams worse than us London Blue, Gwlad, Formby and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gwlad Posted July 29, 2023 Report Share Posted July 29, 2023 2 hours ago, Bailey said: I think its easier to name the positions we don't need. Both centre backs look shaky. Patterson doesn't defend or attack well enough to be first choice. Midfield lacks almost any quality, its saving grace is the energy from Doucoure, Onana and Gueye(ish). Garner might patch it all together when he is match fit but its a big ask. Iwobi on the right wing will do a job but he is inconsistent as hell. We need a striker that can act as a focal point when Dom is injured. Not too much to be concerned about. A striker that can act as focal point now before Dom is fit. Sad to say this, I love the lad but facing the truth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted July 30, 2023 Report Share Posted July 30, 2023 https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/66351579 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted July 30, 2023 Report Share Posted July 30, 2023 It’s not all down to money that we’ve missed all the targets they went for as the main striker, the Toure transfer proved that if stories are true we had agreed a fee with Almeria but the player didn’t want to come here. So we need to address the reason why even if we compete on the financial side why do players still not want to join us, the obvious one is the style of football we play and the struggles we’ve had with that in the last two seasons, also the DoF and the manager what is it with them that they can’t sell to perspective players that we are a club in transition worth joining, or is it they do look at our manager and how his teams have played over the last ten years and decide that’s not for. I don’t know what the reason or reasons are why players don’t want to come here it could one of the above or another reason, but what ever it is it needs sorting out before we can progress as a team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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