pete0 Posted April 1, 2014 Report Share Posted April 1, 2014 Any one other than Joe Hart Milner Stones Cahill Baines Lallana Noble Barry Barkley Rodriguez Rooney All about fitness and passing ability. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kant Posted April 1, 2014 Report Share Posted April 1, 2014 Well, using what has been proven at a club level: Hart Johnson - Jagielka - Cahill - Baines Gerrard - Wilshere - Barkley Sterling- Sturridge - Rooney Reasoning behind that XI: the back four is quite decent, although nowhere near international quality. There is nothing better though, especially for RB and CB. In midfield, Gerrard playing the same holding role he plays nowadays, or Barry (depends on form and fitness), then Wilshere doing the distribution and more mobile. Barkley for the link-up play, with Sterling and Sturridge doing the same work they do for Liverpool and Rooney in the Suarez role. That team would click instantly, since those players have more or less the same role they have in their clubs, and Rooney would flourish in that position. Veredict: Out in the Quarter Finals, penalty shoot-out against a south american team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vranny Posted April 3, 2014 Report Share Posted April 3, 2014 I think Lallana has to be a starter given his form this season. I'd go with the same back 5 as most people have chosen (Hart; Johnson, Cahill, Jagielka, Baines), but have some different ideas for midfielders depending on the shape of the team. Standard 4-4-2: Sterling/Oxlade---Gerrard---Delph/Wilshere---Lallana -----------------Sturridge-----------Rooney----------------- 4-3-3: ----------------------------Gerrard---------------------------- ------------------Lallana-----------Delph/Wilshere--------- Sturridge-----------------Rooney-----------------Sterling Diamond 4-4-2: ----------------------------Gerrard---------------------------- --------------Henderson-----------Delph/Wilshere-------- ----------------------------Lallana---------------------------- -----------------Sturridge-----------Rooney----------------- Personally like the last two formations the best. The diamond could be used for a more balanced, possession based game, while the 4-3-3 looks like a good counter-attacking strategy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted April 3, 2014 Report Share Posted April 3, 2014 You'd have Delph ahead of Barkley? And Wilshere even though he's had a poor season and is injured, again? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted April 3, 2014 Report Share Posted April 3, 2014 Delph looks a decent player but he is a liability with his rash tackling, wilshire? has some substance abuse issues doesnt he, that may answer why he's permanently injured and average. I would adopt the same system that Liverpool have... I know its sickening but given that the key players to their system Gerrard, Sterling, Sturridge can be complimented with Barkley to do Coutinho's role, Rooney to do Suarez role it has to be better than what we are used to seeing from England. Hart Walker - Jags - Cahill - Baines Gerrard Sterling Henderson Barkley Sturridge Rooney GoodisonRoad 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vranny Posted April 3, 2014 Report Share Posted April 3, 2014 You'd have Delph ahead of Barkley? And Wilshere even though he's had a poor season and is injured, again? Barkley hasn't been consistent enough in recent times to warrant a starting position, though I'll admit neither has Wilshere as it stands. I'd prefer to see Lallana used as a creative mid over Barkley due to his more consistent performances and I think Delph (or Henderson) could provide a little more grit in the middle than Ross basically. I'd definitely be looking to utilise him off the bench though as a game changer and fresh pair of legs in midfield. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcopaulo Posted April 3, 2014 Report Share Posted April 3, 2014 Henderson deserves a spot i think..been brilliant Matt and Romey 1878 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted April 3, 2014 Report Share Posted April 3, 2014 So does Roy go with the best formation and put the players in as best he can or does he put the best 11 out and tailor the formation to them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest blueboy122 Posted April 3, 2014 Report Share Posted April 3, 2014 Lallana would be the first name on the team sheet for me Vranny 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornish Steve Posted April 3, 2014 Report Share Posted April 3, 2014 There is now a core of good solid young English players. If I was Roy Hodgson, I'd probably use this World Cup to establish them as the England team of the future and leave out the old guard. It may be a little risky, but it would pay off for the longer term. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c1982 Posted April 3, 2014 Report Share Posted April 3, 2014 Henderson deserves a spot i think..been brilliant Agree Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Nikica Posted April 4, 2014 Report Share Posted April 4, 2014 So does Roy go with the best formation and put the players in as best he can or does he put the best 11 out and tailor the formation to them? Tactics over personnel I would say mate. As Bailey said earlier in the thread when I mentioned playing Sturridge on the wing (I think it was him), it's best to fit players into your philosophy, even if it means selecting inferior players. Bailey 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted April 8, 2014 Report Share Posted April 8, 2014 Any one other than Joe Hart Milner Stones Cahill Baines Lallana Noble Barry Barkley Rodriguez Rooney All about fitness and passing ability. Milner at RB? Noble?! Bizarre line up Henderson is an excellent shout Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornish Steve Posted April 9, 2014 Report Share Posted April 9, 2014 If we're looking to the future, I'd include more young players in the 23-man squad. Joe Hart, John Ruddy, Jack Butland. Phil Jagielka, Leighton Baines, John Stones, Luke Shaw, Phil Jones, Gary Cahill, Steven Caulker. Ross Barkley, Adam Lallana, Steven Gerrard, Jack Wilshere, Jordan Henderson, Raheem Sterling, Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain, Andros Townsend. Wayne Rooney, Daniel Sturridge, Danny Welbeck, Jay Rodriguez, Rickie Lambert. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted April 9, 2014 Report Share Posted April 9, 2014 If we're looking to the future, I'd include more young players in the 23-man squad. Joe Hart, John Ruddy, Jack Butland. Phil Jagielka, Leighton Baines, John Stones, Luke Shaw, Phil Jones, Gary Cahill, Steven Caulker. Ross Barkley, Adam Lallana, Steven Gerrard, Jack Wilshere, Jordan Henderson, Raheem Sterling, Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain, Andros Townsend. Wayne Rooney, Daniel Sturridge, Danny Welbeck, Jay Rodriguez, Rickie Lambert. agreed but Rodriguez is out for 6 months Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornish Steve Posted April 9, 2014 Report Share Posted April 9, 2014 agreed but Rodriguez is out for 6 months Then I guess there's little option but to include Andy Carroll. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted April 9, 2014 Report Share Posted April 9, 2014 (edited) Then I guess there's little option but to include Andy Carroll.id rather take Crouch or Defoe or another midfield player. Or just 22 players. Edited April 9, 2014 by Matt Sibdane and Ant1979 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted April 10, 2014 Report Share Posted April 10, 2014 Id take Carroll for sure. As a footballer I think he is better than people give him credit for but he is a grade a twat. MC11 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted April 11, 2014 Report Share Posted April 11, 2014 I'd take carroll too - with Gerrard pinging crosses it would be daft not to utilise that combo if we needed it. At international level he will ruffle feathers big time. He's not a patch on big dunc, but remember what Fergie did to World Cup winner Roque Junior when he played for Leeds??? Just look at this picture..... http://www.mightyleeds.co.uk/players/roquejunior.htm If carroll could apply a little bit of that up front it would give us something different against difficult "softer" opponents. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Nikica Posted April 11, 2014 Report Share Posted April 11, 2014 Fair points about Carroll as a 'big man' option off the bench, but wouldn't Lambert be better for that role? He's great in the air and a pretty good footballer on the ground as well. He can take free-kicks and would be very handy in a penalty shootout. I reckon he'd be the better choice, but I can see what you guys mean in regards to Carroll. I was sorry to hear about Rodriguez. He's been very impressive this season and deserved a place in the squad. Never like to see players injured before major tournaments. He must be pretty low right now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted April 11, 2014 Report Share Posted April 11, 2014 Fair points about Carroll as a 'big man' option off the bench, but wouldn't Lambert be better for that role? He's great in the air and a pretty good footballer on the ground as well. He can take free-kicks and would be very handy in a penalty shootout. I reckon he'd be the better choice, but I can see what you guys mean in regards to Carroll. I was sorry to hear about Rodriguez. He's been very impressive this season and deserved a place in the squad. Never like to see players injured before major tournaments. He must be pretty low right now Yeh thats true, I keep forgetting about Lambert. Although having said that Lambert plays in the same mode that Rooney or Sturridge would do in dropping off to find space, link up play and try and get someone else in on goal or have a go themselves (albeit not as good from what I have seen of him). With Carroll you get a wrecking ball, someone that will launch himself at every cross near him and get himself in box waiting for someone to play that final pass. I dont really know how many strikers you could afford to take in the squad but I think Rooney, Sturridge, Lambert, Defoe and Carroll would pretty much allow you to have all bases covered. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vranny Posted April 13, 2014 Report Share Posted April 13, 2014 Lambert's still quite a beast in the box if used in that manner. Soton's original tactic under Adkins was pretty much to get the ball out wide and put in crosses towards the far post because of Lambo's dominance in the air. I think with Rodriguez now out that a forward combination of Rooney, Sturridge, Lambert & Welbeck is pretty much nailed on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC11 Posted April 14, 2014 Report Share Posted April 14, 2014 Carroll is a plan F Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted April 30, 2014 Report Share Posted April 30, 2014 Townsend is out of the World Cup. Can't really say I'm arsed about that tbh. Hit and run, that's what he is. Lowensda and Matt 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoodisonRoad Posted April 30, 2014 Report Share Posted April 30, 2014 Townsend is out of the World Cup. Can't really say I'm arsed about that tbh. Hit and run, that's what he is. Dont think he was ever in it tbh. He's behind Lallana, Oxlade, Sterling for me. Might have got a few sub appearances though. Lowensda 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted April 30, 2014 Report Share Posted April 30, 2014 Townsend is out of the World Cup. Can't really say I'm arsed about that tbh. Hit and run, that's what he is. hes reminded me of Sterling last season; burst on to the scene then faded badly. I wouldnt write him off yet though, hes very direct and will improve over the next few years Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowensda Posted April 30, 2014 Report Share Posted April 30, 2014 England won't make it out of the group Shock Horror. I think they'll struggle with lack of 'form' players, heat and pressure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcopaulo Posted April 30, 2014 Report Share Posted April 30, 2014 England won't make it out of the group Shock Horror. I think they'll struggle with lack of 'form' players, heat and pressure. i think they'll struggle cos they're shite Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoodisonRoad Posted April 30, 2014 Report Share Posted April 30, 2014 i think they'll struggle cos they're shite Dont sit on the fence Marco, Tell us how you really feel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted April 30, 2014 Report Share Posted April 30, 2014 i think they'll struggle cos they're shite exactly, heat will just give them an excuse! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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