markjazzbassist Posted September 12, 2018 Report Share Posted September 12, 2018 That Ireland team is cursed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted September 12, 2018 Report Share Posted September 12, 2018 59 minutes ago, markjazzbassist said: That Ireland team is cursed. It is as far as Everton are concerned, remember Shane Duffy nearly dying? https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/international/shane-duffy-interview-brighton-republic-of-ireland-world-cup-playoff-jonathan-liew-a8041746.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted September 12, 2018 Report Share Posted September 12, 2018 6 minutes ago, MikeO said: It is as far as Everton are concerned, remember Shane Duffy nearly dying? https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/international/shane-duffy-interview-brighton-republic-of-ireland-world-cup-playoff-jonathan-liew-a8041746.html duffy mccarthy mcgeady coleman, the roy keane busts up with ward, if i was ireland FA i'd fire em all and start over from scratch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted September 12, 2018 Report Share Posted September 12, 2018 Gibson also got a bad injury while on international duty as well. markjazzbassist and MikeO 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted September 12, 2018 Report Share Posted September 12, 2018 1 hour ago, Romey 1878 said: Gibson also got a bad injury while on international duty as well. good call, if i was marco i'd have all young irish evertonians see if they have english or scottish relatives Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted September 13, 2018 Report Share Posted September 13, 2018 As much as he has been off the pace, he’s still better than Kenny. I’m sure he’ll come in and do a steady job, like he did last season, but I still see a big gulf in class. I hope Kenny proves me wrong, I love his passion and commitment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elston Gunnn Posted October 15, 2018 Report Share Posted October 15, 2018 During a brief discussion of Kenny and Coleman on the current Palace matchday thread, I mentioned that Coleman wouldn’t be ready until November. Then the dismaying thought occurred to me that Coleman might be rounding into shape just in time for O’Neill to use him against Denmark on Nov. 19 - and that Coleman would be injured. Lo and behold, here’s O’Neill ...... http://www.evertonfc.com/news/2018/10/15/what-the-papers-say-october-15 I suspect Silva and O’Neill may get testy with each other in the coming weeks. Seamus surely wants to represent his country and will probably be fit a month from now - or close enough for O’Neill. Silva will of course have a somewhat different perspective, especially if Coleman doesn’t play against Gor Mahia or Chelsea. Imagine the fireworks, for example, if Coleman isn’t even on tne bench by the Chelsea match, and then O’Neill plays him a week later. MikeO and Matt 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiggytop Posted October 15, 2018 Report Share Posted October 15, 2018 2 hours ago, Elston Gunnn said: Seamus surely wants to represent his country and will probably be fit a month from now - or close enough for O’Neill. Silva will of course have a somewhat different perspective, especially if Coleman doesn’t play against Gor Mahia or Chelsea. Imagine the fireworks, for example, if Coleman isn’t even on tne bench by the Chelsea match, and then O’Neill plays him a week later. I'd hope that Seamus has the sense to withdraw from the Irish Squad, he's still got plenty of opportunities to represent his country in the coming years, he missed a big chunk of 2017, he won't want a repeat. Aidan 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EFC-Paul Posted October 15, 2018 Report Share Posted October 15, 2018 Bar us winning major trophies it would make my footballing life if O'Neill put his hand up to be the first man on a non return space mission Complete and utter tit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornish Steve Posted October 16, 2018 Report Share Posted October 16, 2018 8 hours ago, Elston Gunnn said: During a brief discussion of Kenny and Coleman on the current Palace matchday thread, I mentioned that Coleman wouldn’t be ready until November. Then the dismaying thought occurred to me that Coleman might be rounding into shape just in time for O’Neill to use him against Denmark on Nov. 19 - and that Coleman would be injured. Lo and behold, here’s O’Neill ...... http://www.evertonfc.com/news/2018/10/15/what-the-papers-say-october-15 I suspect Silva and O’Neill may get testy with each other in the coming weeks. Seamus surely wants to represent his country and will probably be fit a month from now - or close enough for O’Neill. Silva will of course have a somewhat different perspective, especially if Coleman doesn’t play against Gor Mahia or Chelsea. Imagine the fireworks, for example, if Coleman isn’t even on tne bench by the Chelsea match, and then O’Neill plays him a week later. Same thing for McCarthy. Mind you, some on here lay into McCarthy because he "surely wants to represent his country." It wasn't so long ago that players' ultimate goal was to play for their country, and that's still true for the Celtic countries. If we understand the sentiment for Coleman then we should be fair in accepting McCarthy's desire, too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elston Gunnn Posted October 16, 2018 Report Share Posted October 16, 2018 1 hour ago, Cornish Steve said: Same thing for McCarthy. Mind you, some on here lay into McCarthy because he "surely wants to represent his country." It wasn't so long ago that players' ultimate goal was to play for their country, and that's still true for the Celtic countries. If we understand the sentiment for Coleman then we should be fair in accepting McCarthy's desire, too. Yes, McCarthy and Coleman presumably both hope to play for ROI on Nov. 19. As best we can tell, however, their progress in regaining fitness diverges considerably. As McCarthy is back in training, wouldn’t we expect to see him back on the bench by, at the latest, the Brighton match in early November, probably start in the friendly against Gor Mahia, and get some minutes off the bench against Chelsea? If so, I don’t know how Silva could complain much if the following week O’Neill plays a match-fit player who wants to play for his country. But Coleman’s situation is rather different. He’s not likely to be clearly ready by Nov. 19. Maybe Silva and O’Neill will be carping at each other about both players. Maybe over neither. My guess is simply that Coleman’s, but probably not McCarthy’s, health and readiness will be a testy issue between the managers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddock Posted October 16, 2018 Report Share Posted October 16, 2018 Sooner Colemans back the better for me- sick of seeing Kenny get sent for the Echo week in week out. StevO and markjazzbassist 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornish Steve Posted October 16, 2018 Report Share Posted October 16, 2018 3 hours ago, Paddock said: Sooner Colemans back the better for me- sick of seeing Kenny get sent for the Echo week in week out. He's learning, and we're winning, so no harm is being done right now. This is how most young players work their way into a team, right? Sometimes, you have to place bets on youngsters. He's doing plenty of things right even while making naive mistakes. Shukes and Matt 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddock Posted October 16, 2018 Report Share Posted October 16, 2018 17 minutes ago, Cornish Steve said: He's learning, and we're winning, so no harm is being done right now. This is how most young players work their way into a team, right? Sometimes, you have to place bets on youngsters. He's doing plenty of things right even while making naive mistakes. Sound so lets just play all our young players then and leave the best players out the side so they can learn. Kenny isn’t good enough- he was turned inside out at Leicester, went to ground for their goal, he’s caught out of position too often and ball watches. Just because he’s young doesn’t give him the automatic right to play- I don’t care wat age any of the players are I want the strongest possible team out giving us the best possible chance of winning. StevO and markjazzbassist 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Posted October 16, 2018 Report Share Posted October 16, 2018 Pad. While Seamus is out, Jonjo is the best we have. . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted October 16, 2018 Report Share Posted October 16, 2018 46 minutes ago, Bill said: Pad. While Seamus is out, Jonjo is the best we have. . If only we had Martina still eh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted October 16, 2018 Report Share Posted October 16, 2018 1 hour ago, Paddock said: Sound so lets just play all our young players then and leave the best players out the side so they can learn. Kenny isn’t good enough- he was turned inside out at Leicester, went to ground for their goal, he’s caught out of position too often and ball watches. Just because he’s young doesn’t give him the automatic right to play- I don’t care wat age any of the players are I want the strongest possible team out giving us the best possible chance of winning. i thought i was the only one who didn't rate kenny, glad to see i have some company. even a half hobbled coleman is better than kenny. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Posted October 16, 2018 Report Share Posted October 16, 2018 Maybe but Your forgetting that Coleman isn'tt able to play, and until he does Kenny is the best we have, can't believe the stick he's getting, at this moment in time he's not letting anybody down. Matt and Palfy 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plaidharper Posted October 16, 2018 Report Share Posted October 16, 2018 1 hour ago, Matt said: If only we had Martina still eh? hahahaha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiggytop Posted October 16, 2018 Report Share Posted October 16, 2018 3 hours ago, markjazzbassist said: i thought i was the only one who didn't rate kenny, glad to see i have some company. even a half hobbled coleman is better than kenny. Mark, can't agree with you here at all, I love Seamus, but he's not been anywhere near good enough since his return, bar the end to end run against Leicester - his first game back. His delivery has been poor and his defending so so at best. Yes Jonjoe is making a few mistakes but he's played a key part in the lead up to a few goals this season, Siggis first against Fulham springs to mind. He was not the only player at fault for Leicesters goal a couple of weeks ago, Bernard gave the ball away, Gana tried but didn't win the ball, leaving Jonjoe 1 on 1 for most of the run, and if it had been Richarlison running at Leicester in that way we would be praising him and delighting in him turning his defender inside out, we can't have it both ways. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddock Posted October 16, 2018 Report Share Posted October 16, 2018 4 hours ago, Matt said: If only we had Martina still eh? Where did I say I’d want him back- I said the sooner Colemans back the better for me as I don’t rate Kenny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddock Posted October 16, 2018 Report Share Posted October 16, 2018 3 hours ago, Bill said: Maybe but Your forgetting that Coleman isn'ttt able to play, and until he does Kenny is the best we have, can't believe the stick he's getting, at this moment in time he's not letting anybody down. I’m not saying anything that isn’t true- he was shambolic for Leicesters goal- schoolboy stuff diving in and going to ground. It’s not his fault and I support him at the game 100% but he’s not good enough. markjazzbassist 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Blue Posted October 16, 2018 Report Share Posted October 16, 2018 3 hours ago, Paddock said: I’m not saying anything that isn’t true- he was shambolic for Leicesters goal- schoolboy stuff diving in and going to ground. It’s not his fault and I support him at the game 100% but he’s not good enough. We got caught on the break and he got turned inside out by a very fast and skillful player, as would most right backs in that situation! The goal was not his fault alone. Kenny has contributed to the attacking threat we possess, and formed a good understanding with Theo. He is getting better with every game he plays. Defensively he is ok, but needs to improve, but again this will come with experience. His positioning is good, he just needs to learn when to go forward and when to stay back. He can tackle and he has pace. We have to invest in young players, give them time to grow, to accept that they will make mistakes and be inconsistent, to reap the dividends later Matt and nutmegwolf203 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted October 17, 2018 Report Share Posted October 17, 2018 13 hours ago, Paddock said: Where did I say I’d want him back- I said the sooner Colemans back the better for me as I don’t rate Kenny Where did I say you did? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddock Posted October 17, 2018 Report Share Posted October 17, 2018 3 hours ago, Matt said: Where did I say you did? You insinuated by quoting a quote that was directly at me. Please don’t go down your usual hands in the air “ not me guvnor” on it- we both know exactly what you meant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddock Posted October 17, 2018 Report Share Posted October 17, 2018 13 hours ago, London Blue said: We got caught on the break and he got turned inside out by a very fast and skillful player, as would most right backs in that situation! The goal was not his fault alone. Kenny has contributed to the attacking threat we possess, and formed a good understanding with Theo. He is getting better with every game he plays. Defensively he is ok, but needs to improve, but again this will come with experience. His positioning is good, he just needs to learn when to go forward and when to stay back. He can tackle and he has pace. We have to invest in young players, give them time to grow, to accept that they will make mistakes and be inconsistent, to reap the dividends later He dived in twice, it’s not the first time either our right flank in virtually vacant because of his positional sense- Fulham being a prime example, he was turned like a kipper there also- one point it looked like we didn’t have a right back when they were going forward. I’m not hating on the lad, it’s not his fault alls I’m saying is the sooner Coleman comes back the better for me as Kenny imo is defensively niave at this level. markjazzbassist 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Blue Posted October 17, 2018 Report Share Posted October 17, 2018 31 minutes ago, Paddock said: He dived in twice, it’s not the first time either our right flank in virtually vacant because of his positional sense- Fulham being a prime example, he was turned like a kipper there also- one point it looked like we didn’t have a right back when they were going forward. I’m not hating on the lad, it’s not his fault alls I’m saying is the sooner Coleman comes back the better for me as Kenny imo is defensively niave at this level. He got turned once and fell, and then dived at the end, but he was being run at by a player with pace, while trying to help the team as the Leciester team broke. Let's not forget that this is a new back 4 still learning how to play together as a defense. They are going to make collective and individual mistakes. Game of opinions but in mine he has done well, made some key passes and runs to help score goals as well as some good tackles. He will get better if we let him develop Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted October 17, 2018 Report Share Posted October 17, 2018 54 minutes ago, Paddock said: You insinuated by quoting a quote that was directly at me. Please don’t go down your usual hands in the air “ not me guvnor” on it- we both know exactly what you meant. I'm not insinuating anything, just pointing out that it could've been worse and was replying to Bills point. Get your knickers untwisted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted October 27, 2018 Report Share Posted October 27, 2018 https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverpool-news/evertons-seamus-coleman-makes-incredible-15336255 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gwlad Posted October 27, 2018 Report Share Posted October 27, 2018 Just saw this on my news feed. What a great person he is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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