Bailey Posted August 16, 2016 Report Share Posted August 16, 2016 Gibson isnt fit to clean Barry's boots! Sibdane, London Blue and Steve_E 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibdane Posted August 16, 2016 Report Share Posted August 16, 2016 yes, gibson is the barry replacement, both of them are slow but pass really well. besic and davies are the gueye replacements to tackle, intercept, and link up. cleverley is a body, i would like him and mccarthy sold. we are getting down to 3rd and 4th strings central mids, not sure why we need so many of those yet we have one RB. Besic is injured. Davies has barely played any minutes and is still a bit of an unknown. Gibson is way too unreliable. That essentially leaves us with an aging Barry and Gueye as our only reliable CMs at the moment, if we got rid of McCarthy and Cleverley. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted August 16, 2016 Report Share Posted August 16, 2016 The only thing Gibson is fit to replace is the physio table. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted August 16, 2016 Report Share Posted August 16, 2016 Besic is injured. Davies has barely played any minutes and is still a bit of an unknown. Gibson is way too unreliable. That essentially leaves us with an aging Barry and Gueye as our only reliable CMs at the moment, if we got rid of McCarthy and Cleverley. reagardless of how you look at it, we have a glut of DCM and it needs sorted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted August 16, 2016 Report Share Posted August 16, 2016 http://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2016/08/16/everton-rebuff-james-mccarthy-enquiries/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post London Blue Posted August 16, 2016 Popular Post Report Share Posted August 16, 2016 reagardless of how you look at it, we have a glut of DCM and it needs sorted. We have a glut of poor center midfielders and a shortage of decent ones. Romey 1878, StevO, Steve_E and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newty82 Posted August 16, 2016 Report Share Posted August 16, 2016 How come all Central Midfielders are now referred to as DCM's??!!! There is a difference between a Besic and a Gibson, a Mccarthy and a Cleverly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted August 16, 2016 Report Share Posted August 16, 2016 How come all Central Midfielders are now referred to as DCM's??!!! There is a difference between a Besic and a Gibson, a Mccarthy and a Cleverly. i classify them in 3 terms. DCM or defensive centre mid, box to box or a centre mid that can defend and attack equally well, and ACM or attacking centre mid or a centre mid who's specialty is attacking/creating/linkup play and does little in way of defending. none of the 4 of those attack or are box to box, mccarthy and besic are DCM in the mold of the old destroyer. cleverley is awful, not sure how to classify him. gibson also a DCM for me, he can't attack, defends the back 4, but passes better than a destroyer would. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted August 16, 2016 Report Share Posted August 16, 2016 I think TC will be important to Koeman with his running ability MC11 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted August 16, 2016 Report Share Posted August 16, 2016 I think TC will be important to Koeman with his running ability what positions on the pitch do you see him playing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newty82 Posted August 16, 2016 Report Share Posted August 16, 2016 what positions on the pitch do you see him playing? Centre Mid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted August 16, 2016 Report Share Posted August 16, 2016 Centre Mid wasn't talking to you newts, i quoted matt, was asking him. i'm interested to see where he sees him fitting in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Btay Posted August 16, 2016 Report Share Posted August 16, 2016 Carvalho and Gueye midfield for me would be unreal StevO and Sibdane 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Tiger Posted August 16, 2016 Report Share Posted August 16, 2016 yes, gibson is the barry replacement, both of them are slow but pass really well. besic and davies are the gueye replacements to tackle, intercept, and link up. cleverley is a body, i would like him and mccarthy sold. we are getting down to 3rd and 4th strings central mids, not sure why we need so many of those yet we have one RB. Not trying to rely on Gibson for a damn thing... If anything could play more attacking, slide barkley deeper, and replace him with some proper creativity in the lineup. StevO 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newty82 Posted August 16, 2016 Report Share Posted August 16, 2016 wasn't talking to you newts, i quoted matt, was asking him. i'm interested to see where he sees him fitting in. As they say where I come from 'tough shit'. It's in the public forum, anyone can answer. The Private Message function exists for those more intimate one one one situations. In all seriousness, he is just a plain old original Central Midfielder. Can do a bit of everything but excels at none. Same as Gibson. Central Midfielders do still exist in computer games, don't they??? StevO 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trigger Posted August 16, 2016 Report Share Posted August 16, 2016 Would Sissoko be the replacement? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Tiger Posted August 16, 2016 Report Share Posted August 16, 2016 Would Sissoko be the replacement? If you're moving Barkley deeper, then sure... Keep Gerry and Bolasie as the wingers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted August 16, 2016 Report Share Posted August 16, 2016 Cleverly should only be played in one of the more advanced roles. He isnt and will never be a defensive player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted August 16, 2016 Report Share Posted August 16, 2016 Cleverly should only be played in one of the more advanced roles. He isnt and will never be a defensive player. What he is, when you think about it, is a cheap James Milner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted August 16, 2016 Report Share Posted August 16, 2016 What he is, when you think about it, is a cheap James Milner. Milner could never get a bird like Mrs Cleverley Bailey, Romey 1878 and StevO 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted August 16, 2016 Report Share Posted August 16, 2016 Milner could never get a bird like Mrs Cleverley Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted August 16, 2016 Report Share Posted August 16, 2016 What he is, when you think about it, is a cheap James Milner. Haha yeh he is but there is always a time and a place for a James Milner... Just not too often! Romey 1878 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibdane Posted August 17, 2016 Report Share Posted August 17, 2016 Carvalho and Gueye midfield for me would be unrealPlease don't. I can't handle the thought of that. I don't want to get my hopes up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted August 17, 2016 Report Share Posted August 17, 2016 what positions on the pitch do you see him playing? In all seriousness, he is just a plain old original Central Midfielder. Can do a bit of everything but excels at none. Same as Gibson. Taking out the bickering, Newty summed it up more or less perfectly. It's more his energy levels that I think will get him games though, the lad just runs and runs. I'd also agree with Bailey, that he should never be played with defensive duties. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newty82 Posted August 17, 2016 Report Share Posted August 17, 2016 Taking out the bickering, Newty summed it up more or less perfectly. It's more his energy levels that I think will get him games though, the lad just runs and runs. I'd also agree with Bailey, that he should never be played with defensive duties. Hahaha...guilty as can be!!! When will we ever learn!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trigger Posted August 17, 2016 Report Share Posted August 17, 2016 The only thing Gibson is fit to replace is the physio table. He'd be gutted. He would have to spend most the day lying on the floor. Sibdane and Romey 1878 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted August 17, 2016 Report Share Posted August 17, 2016 (edited) reagardless of how you look at it, we have a glut of DCM and it needs sorted. They aren't all defensive players. Gibson, Cleverley, Davies, not defensive at all. Gibson plays a bit deeper on the pitch, but that's more to help give him options for passing but not defensive in the slightest. We have Gana, McCarthy and Barry, Besic if he wasn't injured but I don't rate him anyway.We need either a number ten (feel sick) so Barkley can drop in, or we need another player in there next to Gana. i classify them in 3 terms. DCM or defensive centre mid, box to box or a centre mid that can defend and attack equally well, and ACM or attacking centre mid or a centre mid who's specialty is attacking/creating/linkup play and does little in way of defending.none of the 4 of those attack or are box to box, mccarthy and besic are DCM in the mold of the old destroyer. cleverley is awful, not sure how to classify him. gibson also a DCM for me, he can't attack, defends the back 4, but passes better than a destroyer would. There are more than just them three types of player. How about a deep lying playmaker? Like Alonso, Kroos, Gibson haha.Gibson can attack, cant defend. Carvalho and Gueye midfield for me would be unreal This Btay, this!! Edited August 17, 2016 by StevO Bailey 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve_E Posted August 17, 2016 Report Share Posted August 17, 2016 We need better midfielders than McCarthy to compete with the big boys. We need an Eric Dier type still imo: a mobile and fairly strong, but tactically disciplined sitter with a good range of forward passing. McCarthy and Barry are lacking in some of those aspects. Having said that, we should sell off the shite ones (Gibson, Cleverley, probably Besic too) before even thinking of moving on the decently productive ones. Bailey 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finn balor Posted August 17, 2016 Report Share Posted August 17, 2016 Surely gibbo will be gone? Lucky lucky man to be at our club. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted August 17, 2016 Report Share Posted August 17, 2016 Surely gibbo will be gone? Lucky lucky man to be at our club. whomever was in charge before we got koeman and walsh gave him a contract extension of 2 years, so he's here to stay unless he can be sold to Moyes at Sunderland or maybe a championship side. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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