Hafnia Posted November 4, 2016 Report Share Posted November 4, 2016 Never mind club v country or wages over honour , the lad is a fucking idiot if he doesn't realise that he is putting his career on the line by rushing back from injury, especially given his history If he plays for Ireland and comes back injured again we should terminate his contract It's getting to that stage. As much as I'd love to lay all blame at the feet of MON as I can't stand him - mccarthy has to be held accountable Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted November 4, 2016 Report Share Posted November 4, 2016 Koeman should wave him off with play and come back with a recurrence of your injuries your going straight to the U23s seems to be a good place for twats Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted November 4, 2016 Report Share Posted November 4, 2016 It's getting to that stage. As much as I'd love to lay all blame at the feet of MON as I can't stand him - mccarthy has to be held accountable I just don't know where his head is at, even if he doesn't want to show any loyalty to the club who pay his wages surely he owes it to himself to make sure he is fully fit and ready to play. He isn't doing himself or his career any favours coming back too early If this hamstring injury was a one off I could understand his eagerness to play for his country but he has been plagued by hamstring injuries, sadly I think he's finished anyway Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted November 4, 2016 Report Share Posted November 4, 2016 I just don't know where his head is at, even if he doesn't want to show any loyalty to the club who pay his wages surely he owes it to himself to make sure he is fully fit and ready to play. He isn't doing himself or his career any favours coming back too early If this hamstring injury was a one off I could understand his eagerness to play for his country but he has been plagued by hamstring injuries, sadly I think he's finished anyway I think the martinez triple hamstring tear did his career. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted November 4, 2016 Report Share Posted November 4, 2016 http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/royal-blue-uncomfortable-truth-james-12127682 Romey 1878 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted November 8, 2016 Report Share Posted November 8, 2016 https://www.theguardian.com/football/2016/nov/07/republic-of-ireland-austria-james-mccarthy-everton Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nutmegwolf203 Posted November 8, 2016 Report Share Posted November 8, 2016 http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2016/11/08/roy-keane-launches-attack-on-everton-and-the-clubs-weak-players/ He's a dick, that's the one constant here, but he's right about the players needing to toughen up (not in the context of McCarthy or Gibson, that's just fishing). They have a weak mentality. Starts with Jags and effects everyone. Ironically, Coleman has more of that belief about him than a lot of other players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted November 8, 2016 Report Share Posted November 8, 2016 http://www.physioroom.com/news/english_premier_league/players/339/roy_keane_injury.html?currency_view=GBP did Roy play through the pain barrier? don't think so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Blue Posted November 9, 2016 Report Share Posted November 9, 2016 Needs to have a proper recovery if he is to have any chance of getting anywhere near to his best. Just glad mystic Martinez, Evertons answer to Dr Nick Rivera is not at the physio table! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted December 20, 2016 Report Share Posted December 20, 2016 Was it his hammy again last night? If so, how and why did he play on until half-time?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted December 20, 2016 Report Share Posted December 20, 2016 Was it his hammy again last night? If so, how and why did he play on until half-time?! I thought he took a knock to the top of the knee, don't see how it could've been his hamstring Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted December 20, 2016 Report Share Posted December 20, 2016 I thought he took a knock to the top of the knee, don't see how it could've been his hamstring The knee he took a knock to wasn't on the leg he was holding... he was holding hammy on the other leg. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted December 20, 2016 Report Share Posted December 20, 2016 I thought he took a knock to the top of the knee, don't see how it could've been his hamstring The knee he took a knock to wasn't on the leg he was holding... he was holding hammy on the other leg. I thought it was his knee but then, like Haf says, he was definitely holding his hammy as well. If it was the latter then I am dumbfounded at him carrying on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted December 20, 2016 Report Share Posted December 20, 2016 bugger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Btay Posted December 20, 2016 Report Share Posted December 20, 2016 Hope he's okay. His return has had a huge effect, however I'm really excited to see a besic/gana midfield with besics added quality on the ball. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chicagoblue Posted December 20, 2016 Report Share Posted December 20, 2016 Have the club not said anything? Honestly looked precautionary to me. He got up and finished the half remember, wouldn't have done that if he'd blown his hammy or knee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornish Steve Posted December 20, 2016 Report Share Posted December 20, 2016 Hamstring, but situation unclear. https://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/2016/1220/840172-everton/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shy_Talk Posted December 20, 2016 Report Share Posted December 20, 2016 Hope he's okay. His return has had a huge effect, however I'm really excited to see a besic/gana midfield with besics added quality on the ball. Where have you seen this? So far as McCarthy, his energy alongside Gueye's has given us a new dimension, granted its only been three halves of football so far but we've been night and day in comparrison. Although we are still ponderous with the ball we knocked it around in tight situations and spread the play quickly which is exactly how to get the best out of our fullbacks and in turn create headaches and space for the oppo and our wide players respectively. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibdane Posted December 20, 2016 Report Share Posted December 20, 2016 (edited) Hamstring, but situation unclear. https://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/2016/1220/840172-everton/ I just don't see him being a full-season player anymore, and I'm beginning to wonder if he's even a half-season player. He's becoming as bad as Gibson at this point, which is a shame, because he's shown what we've been missing in that midfield role. Edited December 20, 2016 by TonkaRoost Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chicagoblue Posted December 20, 2016 Report Share Posted December 20, 2016 I just don't see him being a full-season player anymore, and I'm beginning to wonder if he's even a half-season player. He's becoming as bad as Gibson at this point, which is a shame, because he's shown what we've been missing in that midfield role. Sounds precautionary: “James played well in the first 45 minutes but he was not sure about his hamstring and we couldn’t take that risk,” he [Koeman] told the club's website. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibdane Posted December 20, 2016 Report Share Posted December 20, 2016 Sounds precautionary: “James played well in the first 45 minutes but he was not sure about his hamstring and we couldn’t take that risk,” he [Koeman] told the club's website. I hope so -- but it would excellent if he could start putting in 90 min shifts again on a regular basis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shy_Talk Posted December 21, 2016 Report Share Posted December 21, 2016 I hope so -- but it would excellent if he could start putting in 90 min shifts again on a regular basis. Yeah, him and the rest of the queue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest rusty747 Posted December 21, 2016 Report Share Posted December 21, 2016 I think the difference between first and second half performances in the derby showed us just how much we need McCarthy when he is fit and on form. Whilst his fitness is an issue, I am not so worried about the last drop in form as I am convinced that if we can get him fit there is one hell of a player there. If Besic comes back strong and we get Schneiderlin in January that gives us some exciting midfield options which could change our standard 4-2-3-1 to a 4-3-1-2 New Keeper Coleman ? ? Baines McCarthy. Gana. Besic/Schneiderlin Barkley/? Lukaku. Valencia/DCL That would give us the energy and ability to press that Koeman demands but I still think we need another striker and, though it pains me to say it, Barkley may not thrive in that system. Would Man U do a straight swap for Mata? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlblue Posted December 21, 2016 Report Share Posted December 21, 2016 I think the difference between first and second half performances in the derby showed us just how much we need McCarthy when he is fit and on form. Whilst his fitness is an issue, I am not so worried about the last drop in form as I am convinced that if we can get him fit there is one hell of a player there. If Besic comes back strong and we get Schneiderlin in January that gives us some exciting midfield options which could change our standard 4-2-3-1 to a 4-3-1-2 New Keeper Coleman ? ? Baines McCarthy. Gana. Besic/Schneiderlin Barkley/? Lukaku. Valencia/DCL That would give us the energy and ability to press that Koeman demands but I still think we need another striker and, though it pains me to say it, Barkley may not thrive in that system. Would Man U do a straight swap for Mata? I dont think Schneidelrin will be coming to play in rotation. I think he will be signed as a starter each week and rightly so. He was the best DM in the league whilst at Southampton. Hopefully Besic proves he can last more than 3 games but his injuries are a big concern. Id keep McCarthy, his last 2 games he has proved how vital he can be. He also adds a bit of snide/aggression to the team which we massively lack. He seems the perfect 'Koeman' player tbh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aidan Posted December 21, 2016 Report Share Posted December 21, 2016 The only thing wrong with that line up is that Koeman wants to eventually play 433 and Barkley doesn't fit into a 433 system. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Btay Posted December 21, 2016 Report Share Posted December 21, 2016 Where have you seen this? So far as McCarthy, his energy alongside Gueye's has given us a new dimension, granted its only been three halves of football so far but we've been night and day in comparrison. Although we are still ponderous with the ball we knocked it around in tight situations and spread the play quickly which is exactly how to get the best out of our fullbacks and in turn create headaches and space for the oppo and our wide players respectively. He has a lot more skill on the ball, his turns and dribbling is far more advanced than McCarthy. Passing can be wayward I will admit but his passing game is more expansive than McCarthy's. Romey 1878 and Matt 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shy_Talk Posted December 21, 2016 Report Share Posted December 21, 2016 It's a heck of a situation, because when Lukaku isn't in form apparently that's why we aren't scoring goals and winning games, then when Gueye is out thats why midfield can't cope and we're overrun, then when Barry is out we have no composure to move the ball forwards, then because Barkley is out of sorts we're effectively playing with ten men, and now (NOW?) the fortunes of Everton FC falls squarely on a player we haven't had a full 90 out of in how many months (McCarthy). Lets say he's back next game, will the current malais suddenly revolve around Stek being out injured or playing through a knock? I know it's grim, I've clutched at straws myself, perhaps we need to accept the idea that our best starting eleven (whatever that is) just isn't up to the standard of the league that we all hope and expect it to be, that our problems extend beyond a player or two being injured or out of form. I believe what we are all hoping for is that our manager can knit a unit together and have them performing above the sum of the parts assembled (ala Moyes) and not dejected and hiding from the ball and the support (ala clown-shoes). It's been a difficult time losing Bolassie, we're carrying constant sick-notes on the bench already, lets be thankful we have two quality backs, a host of youth players on the brink of more regular appearances, and get our heads around the fact that we are a side in transition and that transition will take time and money and encounter hurdles before we get to a standard where performances will catch up with our expectations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted December 21, 2016 Report Share Posted December 21, 2016 We need to make the ball stick in the opponents final third.. get defence camped on the half way line. Need more ball retention. The rest is OK. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted December 21, 2016 Report Share Posted December 21, 2016 We need to make the ball stick in the opponents final third.. get defence camped on the half way line. Need more ball retention. The rest is OK. We need to get better quality ball into them as well. McCarthy allows us to win the ball further up the pitch, the defence can stay aggressive and we do start getting up the pitch and more sticks up front because we have better service. The thing I like most about McCarthy is that he is bringing some attitude to our squad. Everyone else bar Coleman pussy foots around but McCarthy gets stuck in and that in turn encourages the rest to be more aggressive. Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC11 Posted December 21, 2016 Report Share Posted December 21, 2016 (edited) Last paragraph spot on Bailey. He's showed some steel which we've been missing. Edited December 21, 2016 by MC11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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