chalkpie Posted February 5, 2017 Report Share Posted February 5, 2017 Agreed, and anyone that says McCarthy can't play football is deluding themselves. His inter-play with Rom for our first shows how good he can be at quick, one-touch football. So true - I was amazed at how quickly he was thinking and played to Rom - brilliant football right there. This lad has it , he just has to have the consistency to show it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete0 Posted February 5, 2017 Report Share Posted February 5, 2017 He done very well going forward yesterday, had to double check it wasn't Barkley a couple of times yesterday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted February 5, 2017 Report Share Posted February 5, 2017 He did well ill eat my humble pie as I'm not a fan of his. Did link up well in attack, when he bungled the goal he did score I thought this is so McCarthy it's not even funny. But he scored and that's all that matters. Worked hard off the ball, and yes I did notice we missed him when he left. Gonna be tough with gana McCarthy and Davies all wanting to do the same thing and all he on the pitch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted February 5, 2017 Report Share Posted February 5, 2017 (edited) We're seeing a rested and recouperated McCarthy. Martinez relied so much on his presence that he rushed him back. Koeman has held off using him until he's sure his injury is settled (no doubt building his hunger and determination too) and we're seeing the player of the season we had in RMs first season. Edited February 5, 2017 by Matt Sibdane 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibdane Posted February 5, 2017 Report Share Posted February 5, 2017 Hopefully he remains fit. He's so underrated it's a joke. Glad to see him on an extended run. Romey 1878 and pete0 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Btay Posted February 6, 2017 Report Share Posted February 6, 2017 It's only going to be good for him that we arnt dependant on him. 60/70 minutes of McCarthy at full intensity and then Davis/Gana/Besic as options to come on is really good depth. Sibdane 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted February 12, 2017 Report Share Posted February 12, 2017 Not even a week after he's played and he's out again. I was right. Get rid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted February 12, 2017 Report Share Posted February 12, 2017 Not even a week after he's played and he's out again. I was right. Get rid. He wasn't injured. He'd felt tightness and Koeman decided not to risk him, and said he'll be available for the next game (as will Mirallas). It's called good management, MJB. Roberto would've played him anyway and then his hamstring would have gone and he'd be out for two months. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddock Posted February 12, 2017 Report Share Posted February 12, 2017 He wasn't injured. He'd felt tightness and Koeman decided not to risk him, and said he'll be available for the next game (as will Mirallas). It's called good management, MJB. Roberto would've played him anyway and then his hamstring would have gone and he'd be out for two months. Exactly this. We have major depth in this area so why risk him. The reason his hamstrings are so bad is because he was played constantly through being injured. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted February 12, 2017 Report Share Posted February 12, 2017 (edited) Not even a week after he's played and he's out again. I was right. Get rid.You were right that he's had injuries to his groin/hamstrings? Hardly requires a crystal ball MJB. The fact that we rejected £16m for him suggests that the medical team are confident that his injuries will stand up to what they want. Up till this season I was all for letting him go as it seemed his abilities had gone- not the case. He covers ground well. We could do well to learn from how many United managed ryan giggs hamstrings/groin. Edited February 12, 2017 by Hafnia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted February 12, 2017 Report Share Posted February 12, 2017 (edited) My point guys is he has to be managed, we don't need guys like that. We need healthy bodies that are ready every match and can play 3 in 7 days if need be. No special cases like James here, I'd rather take the 15m than manage his injury. Edited February 12, 2017 by markjazzbassist Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted February 12, 2017 Report Share Posted February 12, 2017 The whole squad has to be managed, injuries across the whole squad will need to be managed. It's the job of the staff, medical and coaching. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted February 12, 2017 Report Share Posted February 12, 2017 My point guys is he has to be managed, we don't need guys like that. We need healthy bodies that are ready every match and can play 3 in 7 days if need be. No special cases like James here, I'd rather take the 15m than manage his injury. He didn't HAVE to be managed though. It was a CHOICE. We have the midfielders now so that no one needs to be risked if there's the slightest chance of injury. He could have played but he didn't need to play, so he didn't. If Barry, Gana, Schneiderlin etc told Koeman the same thing then they wouldn't be risked either. Because they wouldn't need to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted February 12, 2017 Report Share Posted February 12, 2017 I stand by my comments and am sure he will get injured again this year. Vault me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted February 12, 2017 Report Share Posted February 12, 2017 I'm sure a lot of players will get injured between now and the end of the season. It'll hardly make you Nostradamus! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted February 12, 2017 Report Share Posted February 12, 2017 I'm sure a lot of players will get injured between now and the end of the season. It'll hardly make you Nostradamus! fair play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Btay Posted February 14, 2017 Report Share Posted February 14, 2017 You were right that he's had injuries to his groin/hamstrings? Hardly requires a crystal ball MJB. The fact that we rejected £16m for him suggests that the medical team are confident that his injuries will stand up to what they want. Up till this season I was all for letting him go as it seemed his abilities had gone- not the case. He covers ground well. We could do well to learn from how many United managed ryan giggs hamstrings/groin. Read somewhere that Fergie absolutely lost it when giggs brought a new car ( manual ) because the resistance of the clutch affected his hamstrings. Crazy right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shy_Talk Posted February 14, 2017 Report Share Posted February 14, 2017 Were Wales even a top 100 side back in the days where Mr super injunction was going missing through injury at just the right time for his club boss? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted February 14, 2017 Report Share Posted February 14, 2017 Hydraulic clutches sorted all that out in the end, smooth as you like! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted February 14, 2017 Report Share Posted February 14, 2017 Read somewhere that Fergie absolutely lost it when giggs brought a new car ( manual ) because the resistance of the clutch affected his hamstrings. Crazy right. A lad I know who is a pro golfer got rid of his Porsche years ago, apparently he struggled with injuries. Mad indeed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Btay Posted February 14, 2017 Report Share Posted February 14, 2017 A lad I know who is a pro golfer got rid of his Porsche years ago, apparently he struggled with injuries. Mad indeed. It's insane. I bought a new ute recently and I could just imagine the conversation if I went back and said it makes my legs a bit tight... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted March 11, 2017 Report Share Posted March 11, 2017 Injured again or what? Didn't make the bench Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gethinO Posted March 11, 2017 Report Share Posted March 11, 2017 Injured again or what? Didn't make the bench Yes. 6 weeks I've heard. Hamstring again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted March 11, 2017 Report Share Posted March 11, 2017 Yes. 6 weeks I've heard. Hamstring again. Sad to say I called it. He needed to be sold in January. We should sell this summer. He's the new Gibson. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aidan Posted March 11, 2017 Report Share Posted March 11, 2017 Yes. 6 weeks I've heard. Hamstring again. Jesus what happened to him? Used to be so reliable. What a shame, Koeman seems to like him too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newty82 Posted March 11, 2017 Report Share Posted March 11, 2017 Those hamstrings aren't going to fix. Shame. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibdane Posted March 11, 2017 Report Share Posted March 11, 2017 Hate to hear that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted March 12, 2017 Report Share Posted March 12, 2017 (edited) 1-2 weeks according to our manager. Says he's been feeling pain, but it's not a big injury. "James, again, he has some problems on his hamstring," Koeman is quoted as saying by the Liverpool Echo. "It happened at the beginning of last week, that is really painful for himself but also for me because I like him and we like to progress with, continue with James. "It is not a big hamstring [strain], maybe he will be out for one or two weeks, but I am really disappointed about that. "This is another step back for the boy, that is really disappointing." I lay the blame for this firmly at the door of Martinez and the medical staff he employed. Rushed him back after the first injury, broke down again (as expected) and now it's going to take a lot to fix him. Cheers Roberto, you've fucked a player that would be ideal for Koeman. Edited March 12, 2017 by Romey 1878 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newty82 Posted March 12, 2017 Report Share Posted March 12, 2017 1-2 weeks according to our manager. Says he's been feeling pain, but it's not a big injury. I lay the blame for this firmly at the door of Martinez and the medical staff he employed. Rushed him back after the first injury, broke down again (as expected) and now it's going to take a lot to fix him. Cheers Roberto, you've fucked a player that would be ideal for Koeman. At least we have players in that position to cover. Koeman seems keen to let him rest if his hamstring feels a niggle. Koeman also seems keen to keep McCarthy in his plans. No doubt he likes the bite and energy that he brings. Romey 1878 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornish Steve Posted March 12, 2017 Report Share Posted March 12, 2017 1-2 weeks according to our manager. Says he's been feeling pain, but it's not a big injury. I lay the blame for this firmly at the door of Martinez and the medical staff he employed. Rushed him back after the first injury, broke down again (as expected) and now it's going to take a lot to fix him. Cheers Roberto, you've fucked a player that would be ideal for Koeman. Sadly, this is true. McCarthy had pretty much never been out injured before he came to Everton. I can understand the temptation to rush a player back - we'd be tempted to do the same again if Lukaku got injured at a critical point in the season - but it's not a risk worth taking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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