markiediow Posted January 29, 2017 Report Share Posted January 29, 2017 I fully expect for him to be sold and delboy, cleverly to be sold at end of loan so we have a net spend of £0 again. Lukaku sold in Summer to allow us to spend again. I'm not sure if anything moneywise has really changed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddock Posted January 29, 2017 Report Share Posted January 29, 2017 I fully expect for him to be sold and delboy, cleverly to be sold at end of loan so we have a net spend of £0 again. Lukaku sold in Summer to allow us to spend again. I'm not sure if anything moneywise has really changed. We've spent 35 million in January, McCarthy, Del Boy and Cleverley wont raise that much plus we'll more than likely spend again. There is clearly money now but I honestly think we need to get the dead wood out the team that are collecting 40-60k a week each and contributing nothing. I think it's the wage bill that's constraining us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted January 29, 2017 Report Share Posted January 29, 2017 Premier league rules only let you increase your wage bills in increments, sobwe cant just go buying lots of players with big wages. We'll be able to go higher in the summer. Romey 1878 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markiediow Posted January 29, 2017 Report Share Posted January 29, 2017 We've spent 35 million in January, McCarthy, Del Boy and Cleverley wont raise that much plus we'll more than likely spend again. There is clearly money now but I honestly think we need to get the dead wood out the team that are collecting 40-60k a week each and contributing nothing. I think it's the wage bill that's constraining us. I doubt it is £35m. Snederlin £19m, Lookman £7m plus add ons, so that's £26m. McCarthy £16m, Delboy £8m, Cleverly £2m at a guess, so that's £26m. Along with the wages saved through decreasing the size of the squad, it is good business, but not the amount of spend which is acceptable. Maybe I am being sceptical due to it happening all the time, but does not seem like we have money to spend on transfers. Definitely not the £50-£100m expected in 2 windows. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddock Posted January 29, 2017 Report Share Posted January 29, 2017 I doubt it is £35m. Snederlin £19m, Lookman £7m plus add ons, so that's £26m. McCarthy £16m, Delboy £8m, Cleverly £2m at a guess, so that's £26m. Along with the wages saved through decreasing the size of the squad, it is good business, but not the amount of spend which is acceptable. Maybe I am being sceptical due to it happening all the time, but does not seem like we have money to spend on transfers. Definitely not the £50-£100m expected in 2 windows. Schneiderlin was quoted at 22 rising to 24 and Lookman was 7 rising to 11. Regardless I think there is most definitely funds in place for players. As I've said and Steves confirmed I think it's more to do with wages than fees. Either way, if we break even bringing those 2 in by getting rid of players that we wont use, I'm happy with that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted January 29, 2017 Report Share Posted January 29, 2017 I don't actually care what we spend, I want the team to improve. If we can do that without breaking the bank isn't that better? Gana was £7m, would it be better if we paid £30m for him? We got loads of money for Stones, we will get £8m for Cleverley, anything we get for Niasse is a bonus. If we get some money in for Gibson and Kone, or even just get them out of the club, that's fine. Spend if it improves the team, don't just spend for the sake of it. Romey 1878, Lowensda and Matt 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted January 29, 2017 Report Share Posted January 29, 2017 Sell the man immediately. 16m for string cheese hamstrings? Take it and run. I get turning down the Sunderland loan, but the sale, I hope Newcastle comes back with a bigger offer. We are set a cm and he is always injured. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted January 29, 2017 Report Share Posted January 29, 2017 I don't actually care what we spend, I want the team to improve. If we can do that without breaking the bank isn't that better? Gana was £7m, would it be better if we paid £30m for him? We got loads of money for Stones, we will get £8m for Cleverley, anything we get for Niasse is a bonus. If we get some money in for Gibson and Kone, or even just get them out of the club, that's fine. Spend if it improves the team, don't just spend for the sake of it. spot on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newty82 Posted January 29, 2017 Report Share Posted January 29, 2017 I don't actually care what we spend, I want the team to improve. If we can do that without breaking the bank isn't that better? Gana was £7m, would it be better if we paid £30m for him? We got loads of money for Stones, we will get £8m for Cleverley, anything we get for Niasse is a bonus. If we get some money in for Gibson and Kone, or even just get them out of the club, that's fine. Spend if it improves the team, don't just spend for the sake of it. Agree. There's an unhealthy obsession out there about rating players on how much we pay for them rather than how they perform. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted January 30, 2017 Report Share Posted January 30, 2017 Was it Conte who said this week we have an obsession with transfers in this country? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aidan Posted January 30, 2017 Report Share Posted January 30, 2017 We will struggle to sell Niasse I feel. What is he on? 55 or 60k a week?! Nobody will pay that especially if he doesn't perform in his stint at Hull. As for Jimmy Mac I want him to stay and fight for his place. He's looked like the Macca from RM's first season and will be up for fighting for his place. Can't see him staying though with the depth we have there, especially with Davies set to possibly be given cameos from the bench this season. Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC11 Posted January 30, 2017 Report Share Posted January 30, 2017 We should keep him as he's looked up for the fight this season and suits the way Koeman plays. I've been impressed by him. Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibdane Posted January 30, 2017 Report Share Posted January 30, 2017 (edited) I think we have to keep him unless we bring someone else in. Even then, I'd rather have him than Barry when looking at the long-term (given that McCarthy can stay fit). Edited January 30, 2017 by TonkaRoost Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted January 30, 2017 Report Share Posted January 30, 2017 I'm worried he's a Gibson and no one will want him. sell while we can still make some money off it before he becomes completely tied to the physio table and he's worthless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted January 30, 2017 Report Share Posted January 30, 2017 We don't need to be looking at cashing in on players. And while we have strength in depth there is no need to rush him through any injuries. He can take time and get fully fit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornish Steve Posted January 31, 2017 Report Share Posted January 31, 2017 If he can truly recover from injury (and it's only in the last two years he's been injured; he was rarely out before that in his career), then I would like to see him become our captain. Right attitude, consistent aggression, but not overly dramatic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted February 1, 2017 Report Share Posted February 1, 2017 http://www.independent.ie/sport/soccer/premier-league/ronald-koeman-reveals-why-everton-rejected-a-big-money-bid-for-james-mccarthy-35414561.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter H Posted February 1, 2017 Report Share Posted February 1, 2017 We will struggle to sell Niasse I feel. What is he on? 55 or 60k a week?! Nobody will pay that especially if he doesn't perform in his stint at Hull. As for Jimmy Mac I want him to stay and fight for his place. He's looked like the Macca from RM's first season and will be up for fighting for his place. Can't see him staying though with the depth we have there, especially with Davies set to possibly be given cameos from the bench this season. Niasse will be sold. He impressed me in the last game for Hull. If he keeps that up they will want him on a perm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibdane Posted February 1, 2017 Report Share Posted February 1, 2017 http://www.independent.ie/sport/soccer/premier-league/ronald-koeman-reveals-why-everton-rejected-a-big-money-bid-for-james-mccarthy-35414561.htmlGlad to see he rates McCarthy, and it seems he's reaching full fitness again based on those comments. Romey 1878 and Matt 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Btay Posted February 1, 2017 Report Share Posted February 1, 2017 We don't need to rush him back which is key. Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest rusty747 Posted February 1, 2017 Report Share Posted February 1, 2017 McCarthy is a great player when fit and when the team is set up to suit his style of play. If he can play alongside Davies and/or Barkley then his role is fairly simple. Break up the opposition play and give the ball to Davies or Barkley - occasionally getting forward himself. Matt and Romey 1878 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Posted February 1, 2017 Report Share Posted February 1, 2017 Those three you mentioned, would you play them all alongside Schneiderlin, Gana, and Barry. ?? That won't leave much room for other players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted February 5, 2017 Report Share Posted February 5, 2017 I don't think it was any coincidence that when he went off yesterday we lost our way for a while. Glad to have him back and I hope we've finally put his injury problems to bed. pete0 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c1982 Posted February 5, 2017 Report Share Posted February 5, 2017 I don't think it was any coincidence that when he went off yesterday we lost our way for a while. Glad to have him back and I hope we've finally put his injury problems to bed. I liked him higher up the pitch pressing their defenders - it's something Stoke have done with Joe Allen with relative success. Think it would work against teams like Arsenal (away) when they will want to build from the back and dominate possession. Romey 1878, pete0 and nutmegwolf203 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newty82 Posted February 5, 2017 Report Share Posted February 5, 2017 I don't think it was any coincidence that when he went off yesterday we lost our way for a while. Glad to have him back and I hope we've finally put his injury problems to bed. Yeah. It was tough for Davies to get into the game. Always is as a sub but the sub happened when we were under intense pressure. We looked all over the place for a bit. Once Davies got into it, we got going again. Him and McCarthy are pretty similar. You can see that when they play, they get used to press high up the pitch. Really good options to have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted February 5, 2017 Report Share Posted February 5, 2017 I liked him higher up the pitch pressing their defenders - it's something Stoke have done with Joe Allen with relative success. Think it would work against teams like Arsenal (away) when they will want to build from the back and dominate possession. Agreed, and anyone that says McCarthy can't play football is deluding themselves. His inter-play with Rom for our first shows how good he can be at quick, one-touch football. pete0 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newty82 Posted February 5, 2017 Report Share Posted February 5, 2017 Agreed, and anyone that says McCarthy can't play football is deluding themselves. His inter-play with Rom for our first shows how good he can be at quick, one-touch football. .....and the way he cleverly shot against their player to get the GK out the way, leaving him with an open goal was world class!!! Romey 1878 and pete0 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted February 5, 2017 Report Share Posted February 5, 2017 He had a great game. Shame he didn't score a fourth just before he went off. Different game if we go 4-0 there. Davies struggled when he came on higher up the pitch, when we went back to 343 and Davies dropped deeper the control of the game came right back and two quick goals. McCarthy, with his workrate, looks really good in that team. Romey 1878 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Blue Posted February 5, 2017 Report Share Posted February 5, 2017 He is another quality option and I truly hope he is passed his injury problems. Love his one touch football and passing as well as his industry, players like him and Davies give Barkley the time and space to play. We have a quality midfield now, just need more options in defense and up front. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chalkpie Posted February 5, 2017 Report Share Posted February 5, 2017 Loved this motherfucah' yesterday - his smile after the goal was priceless. nutmegwolf203 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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