Matt Posted May 3, 2020 Report Share Posted May 3, 2020 https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/52524408 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted May 3, 2020 Report Share Posted May 3, 2020 Get well soon Ronald. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted May 3, 2020 Report Share Posted May 3, 2020 All the best to him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted August 17, 2020 Report Share Posted August 17, 2020 Rumored to be in the running for the Barca job. I can’t get my head around 5 at the back with Messi up top against Real Madrid but hey, good luck Ronnie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornish Steve Posted August 17, 2020 Report Share Posted August 17, 2020 What are Barca doing? Koeman ruins Everton, we're still recovering from that almighty mess, and now he's Barcelona manager? This is surreal. https://www.cbssports.com/soccer/news/ronald-koeman-picked-to-replace-quique-setien-as-next-barcelona-manager/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Blue Posted August 17, 2020 Report Share Posted August 17, 2020 Barca are in a mess, not just on the field but financially. Until they lower their wage bill they will continue to struggle. The president and the board are clueless and their is no direction. They need a charismatic leader with a clear vision of the future and a plan of how to get there. Koeman will not last a season. Romey 1878 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Btay Posted August 18, 2020 Report Share Posted August 18, 2020 Shambles. Was out of his depth with us and expectations were minimal compared to what he’s going to get at Barcelona. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted August 18, 2020 Report Share Posted August 18, 2020 He's an arrogant man, he will tread carefully at Barca but he isn't good enough and is a divisive character. I give him 6 months tops before he gets the sack. Can't believe he's got the job to be honest. Why didn't they go for Klopp. That would have been great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted August 18, 2020 Report Share Posted August 18, 2020 i just don't see his "no one eats till i eat" sittign well with the worlds superstars. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted August 18, 2020 Report Share Posted August 18, 2020 I think he is just a temporary experienced and well thought of figure to start the rebuild before Xavi comes in. Its not like he could do much worse than the last couple of managers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted August 18, 2020 Report Share Posted August 18, 2020 1 hour ago, Bailey said: I think he is just a temporary experienced and well thought of figure to start the rebuild before Xavi comes in. Its not like he could do much worse than the last couple of managers. Exactly. He’s Barca’s Fat Sam Bailey 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted August 18, 2020 Report Share Posted August 18, 2020 The world of football has gone mental. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted August 19, 2020 Report Share Posted August 19, 2020 6 hours ago, Palfy said: The world of football has gone mental. Edited for you. Matt and Quinn31 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete0 Posted August 19, 2020 Report Share Posted August 19, 2020 Managing Barca is easier than most jobs. There's only one rival team in the league and one nuisance so at worse he'll finish third given the players are that much better than the other teams bar those two. With hindsight I think we fired the wrong one when it was between him and Walsh. He brought through DCL when most of us couldn't see why he was getting a game over Mirallas or whatever senior player on the wing at the time. Looking back he was lumbered with Keane, and Gana both picked by Walsh based on their stats. His only really bad signing was Sigurdssen but that was based on us bringing in a target man like Giroud but we ended up with Rooney instead. Barkley, stones and Lukaku all wanted out before he got here and he ended up with a slow missed matched team that was never gonna work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted August 19, 2020 Report Share Posted August 19, 2020 Barca are so fucked up off the pitch. Just as a recent example of how batshit they are - they have an old, ageing squad that needs more younger players and they swapped the 23 year old Arthur for Pjanic who is 30. Arthur took a little bit of time but he was finally finding his feet and was looking like he could be a very good player for them. The mind boggles. Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted August 19, 2020 Report Share Posted August 19, 2020 2 hours ago, Romey 1878 said: Barca are so fucked up off the pitch. Just as a recent example of how batshit they are - they have an old, ageing squad that needs more younger players and they swapped the 23 year old Arthur for Pjanic who is 30. Arthur took a little bit of time but he was finally finding his feet and was looking like he could be a very good player for them. The mind boggles. Exactly. It used to be the easiest job, it’s probably the hardest now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted August 19, 2020 Report Share Posted August 19, 2020 2 hours ago, Romey 1878 said: Barca are so fucked up off the pitch. Just as a recent example of how batshit they are - they have an old, ageing squad that needs more younger players and they swapped the 23 year old Arthur for Pjanic who is 30. Arthur took a little bit of time but he was finally finding his feet and was looking like he could be a very good player for them. The mind boggles. It’s all due to money. They didn’t want to due that deal but by doing it saved millions. They have been sell to buy for a while now (side note even the big clubs can be sell to buy at times!!) and this was a prime example. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Btay Posted August 19, 2020 Report Share Posted August 19, 2020 Well first rumour is Koeman wants Micheal Keane.... I mean, if he is feeling that generous he could take bolasie & Gylfi as well... Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted August 20, 2020 Report Share Posted August 20, 2020 There is an article out today with quotes from Geri and he basically says that he did nothing for his career / game. I think its safe to say they didn't get on! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted August 20, 2020 Report Share Posted August 20, 2020 2 hours ago, Bailey said: There is an article out today with quotes from Geri and he basically says that he did nothing for his career / game. I think its safe to say they didn't get on! it brings up an interesting conversation though. here in the US there are managers seen as teachers of the game (any sport), that will help young players learn and grow, and there are other types like old school you gotta have your shit together i'm just here to manager not to teach kinda managers. i'm not excusing Koeman, but maybe teaching simply wasn't his style. is that ok? i don't know. but at barca he won't be expected to teach. so in a way it's perfect for him in that sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted August 20, 2020 Report Share Posted August 20, 2020 1 hour ago, markjazzbassist said: it brings up an interesting conversation though. here in the US there are managers seen as teachers of the game (any sport), that will help young players learn and grow, and there are other types like old school you gotta have your shit together i'm just here to manager not to teach kinda managers. i'm not excusing Koeman, but maybe teaching simply wasn't his style. is that ok? i don't know. but at barca he won't be expected to teach. so in a way it's perfect for him in that sense. Yeh I get yer. Maybe its a job of the other coaches employed to do that rather than the head coach. I'd definitely say that's the case with some American sports, well NFL as its the only one I really follow, but over here a manager is historically expected to improve the players under their control, especially the young lads coming through. It is shifting away from that though, especially as the hire and fire culture doesn't give managers as much chance to improve players for the long term. I do just think Koeman was a bit of a twat though fwiw. Palfy, markjazzbassist and Btay 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted August 20, 2020 Report Share Posted August 20, 2020 59 minutes ago, Bailey said: Yeh I get yer. Maybe its a job of the other coaches employed to do that rather than the head coach. I'd definitely say that's the case with some American sports, well NFL as its the only one I really follow, but over here a manager is historically expected to improve the players under their control, especially the young lads coming through. It is shifting away from that though, especially as the hire and fire culture doesn't give managers as much chance to improve players for the long term. I do just think Koeman was a bit of a twat though fwiw. i do as well, i really liked the guy before he came here, i like him at soton and did want him here. i was disappointed with his tenure and tactics, by the end just kinda fed up with the guy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Btay Posted August 21, 2020 Report Share Posted August 21, 2020 6 hours ago, markjazzbassist said: i do as well, i really liked the guy before he came here, i like him at soton and did want him here. i was disappointed with his tenure and tactics, by the end just kinda fed up with the guy. Thought he was arrogant. Moshiri wanted that big name to compete with the other big name managers and attract those elite level players. Koeman, in my opinion believed he was the big name also but management wise had never really earned his stripes in this level. markjazzbassist and Bailey 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted November 1, 2020 Report Share Posted November 1, 2020 https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/54761839 the master tactician doing well it seems Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c1982 Posted February 20, 2021 Report Share Posted February 20, 2021 Good lad Oumar! Matt and Zoo 2.0 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted February 20, 2021 Report Share Posted February 20, 2021 25 minutes ago, c1982 said: Good lad Oumar! Always rated him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted February 20, 2021 Report Share Posted February 20, 2021 51 minutes ago, c1982 said: Good lad Oumar! That is too funny . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted September 22, 2021 Report Share Posted September 22, 2021 https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/58643421 Matt, Cornish Steve and Bailey 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted September 22, 2021 Report Share Posted September 22, 2021 2 hours ago, MikeO said: https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/58643421 Ah that's a pity isn't it. Koeman got his dream job..... Bit of a nightmare though. Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted September 22, 2021 Report Share Posted September 22, 2021 5 hours ago, MikeO said: https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/58643421 I was just coming on to post this. Really interesting situation and it just shows where poor short terms decisions can lead you in football. Not that we as Everton fans really need reminding! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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