JoeQuince Posted May 14, 2016 Report Share Posted May 14, 2016 He's left a mess every where he has managed. He turned Inter back into a laughing stock after Mourinho made them champions. He left the worst Liverpool squad in my lifetime (so one positive), and his success in the cup final was largely down to the endless pit of luck across the park and a sub only made because of an injury. He mismanaged Alonso, one of the best midfielders in the world, which would make me worry about our star players. Loves his favourites far too much as well, cliques manager like Martin O'Neil. I thought Alonso was happy and that Benitez sold him to Madrid to make room for Barry (who never came). Benitez is a dipshit when it comes to players, either way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted May 14, 2016 Report Share Posted May 14, 2016 Aren't we supposed to be thinking big??? A liverpool manager who called us a small club... nah fuck off. Pellegrini? Too much like martinez who has probably satisfied his "hunger". De boer or koeman for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete0 Posted May 14, 2016 Report Share Posted May 14, 2016 Really? Valencia league winners twice. Inter, never really had a chance due to very public falling out with owners. Chelsea, picked up after the mess of De Matteo, won the Europa league and finished 3rd in league, despite being "the Interim one" Napoli, got them to the champs league twice and won the cup. Real Madrid, fell out with Ronaldo. Valencia is arguably his only success, but he left a mess that's taken over a decade to fix.Because he claimed he was doing a good job because he won a trophy, no one else agreed with him. Wasn't there long enough to make his mark, and leave the usual mess. Napoli were a very good team, should have been title contenders. Much like he would Stones and Barkley. He can only manage hard work, and plays percentage football. I'd rather Big Sam, similar style football but more reactive and knows how to man manage the players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete0 Posted May 14, 2016 Report Share Posted May 14, 2016 I thought Alonso was happy and that Benitez sold him to Madrid to make room for Barry (who never came). Benitez is a dipshit when it comes to players, either way. Tried to sell him to Arsenal the season before. Agree he's a dipshit though haha. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted May 14, 2016 Report Share Posted May 14, 2016 What are people's thoughts on Benitez?? Never mind the fact he managed Liverpool, would you have him? He's managed at the top top level, and I'm all fairness Newcastle went down but you could see a marked difference in they play after he got there(they were doomed well before he got there). You don't just manage Real Madrid by luck? To me he is still just a fat Spanish waiter but if he came here and was successful in ending our trophy drought I would certainly give him a tip Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Blue Posted May 14, 2016 Report Share Posted May 14, 2016 He is a very good manager, most of the players who have played under him rate him highly, as do other managers. Alonso wanted to go to Spain similar to Ronaldo. I agree he has not got the greatest record with transfers, but still pretty good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC11 Posted May 14, 2016 Report Share Posted May 14, 2016 Benitez just won't happen. I'm convinced De Boer ticks all boxes. Wants to come, has won things, is a big name that will attract big names. As said previously give him a 3 year contract, see how it pans out. I personally don't want Koeman. Just doesn't suit us. Pellegrini is a walking corps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twoleftfeet Posted May 14, 2016 Report Share Posted May 14, 2016 JOSE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mirallas Posted May 14, 2016 Report Share Posted May 14, 2016 (edited) I'm still fond of Roberto Mancini, but I don't think Internazionale would let him go, nor do I think Mancini is necessarily interested in Everton (no European football and such)... Still more realistic than Mourinho. Edited May 14, 2016 by Mirallas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chalkpie Posted May 15, 2016 Report Share Posted May 15, 2016 Maybe we should try it without a manager this time and see how it goes...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Newty82 Posted May 15, 2016 Report Share Posted May 15, 2016 Can't blame Koeman to be honest. He'll feel they are heading in the right direction. He's done brilliant with them. The only way I could see him giving it up is if they yet again sold a load of players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kankurette Posted May 15, 2016 Report Share Posted May 15, 2016 Looks like it'll be de Boer. In fairness, we could do much worse than him. He's done well with Ajax. I do NOT want Flores. It would just be Martinez The Second Coming if we got him. I'd take Rafa over him, at least he's won trophies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted May 15, 2016 Report Share Posted May 15, 2016 He's waiting for the Arsenal job. He'll see out his final year and then leave. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC11 Posted May 15, 2016 Report Share Posted May 15, 2016 Koeman has made it quite clear that Southampton will need good solid investment to go beyond this season. I presume he's going to want reassurances of what funds are available. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted May 15, 2016 Report Share Posted May 15, 2016 Sounds like he's using the Everton open as leverage to get what he wants and their ownership has relented. Good for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EFC-Paul Posted May 15, 2016 Report Share Posted May 15, 2016 Yeah every credit he's done well with them to be fair and I agree with Mark I could see him at Arsenal or even United down the line, he seems to be in that long tenure big club mold.... Next! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddock Posted May 16, 2016 Author Report Share Posted May 16, 2016 SSN reporting that we haven't even spoken to Mourinho. They are shite at this type of thing like but straange they are reporting it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chach Posted May 16, 2016 Report Share Posted May 16, 2016 Jose is saying he hasn't even been approached. I am disappoint. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newty82 Posted May 16, 2016 Report Share Posted May 16, 2016 This is what I mean by betting firms being hand in hand with the sports press. One day a story is run linking Mourinho, a flurry of bets get put on, the odds get slashed, more bets get put on. The next day 'we haven't even approached'. Mr Betting Shop thanks Mr Sports Press because he's just made a fortune...yes sir, we will continue spending millions advertising with you. Obviously it's exciting reading about such names, but we all know how Everton do business. We'll know at the relative last minute! chicagoblue 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter H Posted May 16, 2016 Report Share Posted May 16, 2016 Jose is saying he hasn't even been approached. I am disappoint. Ah but isnt that just a way of saying please make me an offer? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter H Posted May 16, 2016 Report Share Posted May 16, 2016 Theres been talk about Eddie Howe in Sweden? He is a life long Evertonian and did really well at Bournemouth. Not very established tho Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC11 Posted May 16, 2016 Report Share Posted May 16, 2016 Theres been talk about Eddie Howe in Sweden? He is a life long Evertonian and did really well at Bournemouth. Not very established tho No thanks dlblue 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddock Posted May 16, 2016 Author Report Share Posted May 16, 2016 Not Howe we need to aim higher than Howe. dlblue 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EFC-Paul Posted May 16, 2016 Report Share Posted May 16, 2016 I'm not sure why anyone would want Howe (seen him suggested on social media) he's done well with Bournemouth granted but was piss poor at Burnley dlblue 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlblue Posted May 16, 2016 Report Share Posted May 16, 2016 No thanks on Howe. Need a manager who can bring in big players. Personally i think De Boer is a big risk, the dutch league is poor. I wouldn't be totally against him but i would be wary. Romey 1878 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted May 16, 2016 Report Share Posted May 16, 2016 The manager is more about buying players and working on the set up. The coaches are a lot more important these days. Get those right and the manager can use his influence to buy players and out his stamp on the style. But any manager will fail with the wrong team behind them. De Boer is a decent name you would think and could maybe influence some top players to come our way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted May 16, 2016 Report Share Posted May 16, 2016 (edited) Starting to think the big name manager so we get the big players is wrong. We need the right manager to bring in the right players, I don't care how little or much they cost. Edited May 16, 2016 by Matt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeQuince Posted May 16, 2016 Report Share Posted May 16, 2016 Starting to think the big name manager so we get the big players is wrong. We need the right manager to bring in the right players, I don't care how little or much they cost. My feelings exactly. I don't care if the next manager is a name or not. I'd prefer experience, of course, which tends to come with having a "name," but this mostly has to do with the pragmatics of being tactically astute and of being able to handle professional players at a high level. The most important thing is bringing in someone who knows how to manage a team and produce sustained periods of successful results. I think we have plenty of quality in the squad. Sure, we have some dead wood and players nearing retirement who need to be replaced, but a complete overhaul isn't needed at the moment. We need someone to come in and get these players performing at the levels at which we know they're capable of. The club should bring in the best manager for the job, allow him to assess his needs for the squad and support him accordingly. I wouldn't hire somebody who, on the interview, says: "Your entire squad is shit. Give me that £100m and I'll make you competitive. I've got the name. I'll bring in the big guns, promise." I'd prefer somebody who says: "This is how I prefer to play. There are a few spots in the squad I would like to develop for these purposes." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC11 Posted May 16, 2016 Report Share Posted May 16, 2016 I think De Boer is a strategist rather than someone who spends all kinds of money I.e Mourinho. I'm swaying hugely towards De Boer if I'm honest. London Blue 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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