Sibdane Posted January 10, 2018 Report Share Posted January 10, 2018 Glad to hear we knocked back approaches. I still think he can be a decent player for us. MikeO 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted January 17, 2018 Report Share Posted January 17, 2018 https://www.clubcall.com/everton/striker-bid-knocked-back-1874991.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted January 17, 2018 Author Report Share Posted January 17, 2018 probably smart, if we plan on keeping him we should send him to the championship or lower prem on loan to get used to the physical play. going back to spain wont' help his development for the prem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quinn31 Posted January 17, 2018 Report Share Posted January 17, 2018 21 minutes ago, markjazzbassist said: probably smart, if we plan on keeping him we should send him to the championship or lower prem on loan to get used to the physical play. going back to spain wont' help his development for the prem. I highly doubt he'd accept a loan spell at a Championship club. A player can refuse that sort of move. MikeO 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted January 17, 2018 Report Share Posted January 17, 2018 1 minute ago, Quinn31 said: I highly doubt he'd accept a loan spell at a Championship club. A player can refuse that sort of move. I thought someone like Huddersfield or Swansea might come in for him on loan markjazzbassist 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibdane Posted January 17, 2018 Report Share Posted January 17, 2018 I even think £8mil is low in this market, he's proven in La Liga at a decent club. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyblue23 Posted January 17, 2018 Report Share Posted January 17, 2018 I don't want to get rid yet. I also don't buy that we need to "balance the books." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted January 18, 2018 Report Share Posted January 18, 2018 Loaning him out to a "lesser" club would be humiliating for the guy given his history and I'd not blame him for refusing it; hope he stays and fights for his chance because (imo) undoubtedly there's a player in there. Quinn31 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoof_It_Nev Posted January 18, 2018 Report Share Posted January 18, 2018 Feel sorry for this guy. Who was he brought in to replace? If he was our answer to Lukaku leaving then he should have been starting ahead of DCL every week. To me it seems like the fact we got him 'cheap' because of his contract situation mentally puts him down the pecking order. He hasn't shown anything amazing yet but who has? When we signed him he should have been our main striker or loaned out. Sitting on the bench getting a handful of minutes is bad business in terms of career progression and player value. This stinks of a player being frozen out because the current manager didn't sign him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavisJD Posted January 18, 2018 Report Share Posted January 18, 2018 To me it speaks volumes that Niasse has climbed above him in the pecking order despite his know limitations. His loosing of footing and loose touches were more prominant and frequent than any moments of quality or inspiration this season. Can’t see anyone purchasing him on his current wages. A loan to keep him developing would be ideal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter H Posted January 18, 2018 Report Share Posted January 18, 2018 He should stay if he wants to stay and fight for his place. He needs time. I am however not convinced that he wants to stay. Im pretty sure he wants to go back to Spain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Paddock Posted January 18, 2018 Popular Post Report Share Posted January 18, 2018 We shouldn’t be selling any of the new players least of all this lad- I get them getting twitchy over a 20 odd million pound player flopping and wanting to recuperate funds but we paic 5 mil for him, keep him and see if he develops and adapts to English football, he’s 21 ffs we have older players than that on the books in the rezzies. Criminal if we let him go- even if he doesn’t adapt we’ll make money on him. Newty82, Matt, nyblue23 and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted January 18, 2018 Report Share Posted January 18, 2018 10 hours ago, MikeO said: Loaning him out to a "lesser" club would be humiliating for the guy given his history and I'd not blame him for refusing it; hope he stays and fights for his chance because (imo) undoubtedly there's a player in there. What history? A handful of games with Barcelona, a decent season with Malaga? I'd rather he went out and found some confidence, and if it is a self-belief issue, then being a big fish in a little pond might work out well for him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted January 18, 2018 Report Share Posted January 18, 2018 2 hours ago, Paddock said: We shouldn’t be selling any of the new players least of all this lad- I get them getting twitchy over a 20 odd million pound player flopping and wanting to recuperate funds but we paic 5 mil for him, keep him and see if he develops and adapts to English football, he’s 21 ffs we have older players than that on the books in the rezzies. Criminal if we let him go- even if he doesn’t adapt we’ll make money on him. Agree. It would be much more productive if we gave him some time and experience. At the worst it would up his value. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nogs Posted January 18, 2018 Report Share Posted January 18, 2018 10 hours ago, Hoof_It_Nev said: Feel sorry for this guy. Who was he brought in to replace? If he was our answer to Lukaku leaving then he should have been starting ahead of DCL every week. To me it seems like the fact we got him 'cheap' because of his contract situation mentally puts him down the pecking order. He hasn't shown anything amazing yet but who has? When we signed him he should have been our main striker or loaned out. Sitting on the bench getting a handful of minutes is bad business in terms of career progression and player value. This stinks of a player being frozen out because the current manager didn't sign him. But DCL, and then Niasse, played better than him. You can't play a guy just because he's a new signing. I don't buy that he or Klaassen didn't get chances. They did, and stood out for how poor they were in a very poor side. Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted January 18, 2018 Author Report Share Posted January 18, 2018 1 hour ago, Matt said: What history? A handful of games with Barcelona, a decent season with Malaga? I'd rather he went out and found some confidence, and if it is a self-belief issue, then being a big fish in a little pond might work out well for him could also be the sunny beaches and bikini clad women of Malaga over the cold dreary weather and women of liverpool. location is everything matt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted January 18, 2018 Report Share Posted January 18, 2018 1 minute ago, markjazzbassist said: could also be the sunny beaches and bikini clad women of Malaga over the cold dreary weather and fat women of liverpool. location is everything matt. You've clearly never been on a night out in Liverpool in the winter. The "clothes" the girls wear often make bikini clad women look overdressed And careful there matie, most of our mothers and sisters are from Liverpool Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted January 18, 2018 Author Report Share Posted January 18, 2018 3 minutes ago, Matt said: You've clearly never been on a night out in Liverpool in the winter. The "clothes" the girls wear often make bikini clad women look overdressed And careful there matie, most of our mothers and sisters are from Liverpool you married an american which probably backs up my statement even more but you're right, i corrected the statement to remove "fat". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted January 18, 2018 Report Share Posted January 18, 2018 56 minutes ago, markjazzbassist said: you married an american which probably backs up my statement even more but you're right, i corrected the statement to remove "fat". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted January 18, 2018 Report Share Posted January 18, 2018 I think he’d work well in a two with Tosun. Not that we’ll ever see it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted January 18, 2018 Report Share Posted January 18, 2018 7 minutes ago, Romey 1878 said: I think he’d work well in a two with Tosun. Not that we’ll ever see it. Might've worked well in a 2 with DCL, it's just never going to happen. 4231 is the "new" 442 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted January 20, 2018 Report Share Posted January 20, 2018 http://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2018/01/20/report-newcastle-make-loan-bid-for-evertons-sandro-ramirez/We should snap their hand off, perfect solution all round London Blue and Matt 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quinn31 Posted January 20, 2018 Report Share Posted January 20, 2018 1 minute ago, duncanmckenzieismagic said: http://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2018/01/20/report-newcastle-make-loan-bid-for-evertons-sandro-ramirez/ We should snap their hand off, perfect solution all round As much as I don't think we should be moving on players that have only been here six months and not gotten a real crack at things, I certainly don't think being fourth choice behind DCL, Niasse, and Tosun is what will help him adapt. Only downside is that his confidence is not likely to be improved at Newcastle given their position in the table and how they play/don't create many chances. Give Eddie Howe a ring, maybe Bournemouth would take him on loan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted January 20, 2018 Report Share Posted January 20, 2018 As much as I don't think we should be moving on players that have only been here six months and not gotten a real crack at things, I certainly don't think being fourth choice behind DCL, Niasse, and Tosun is what will help him adapt. Only downside is that his confidence is not likely to be improved at Newcastle given their position in the table and how they play/don't create many chances. Give Eddie Howe a ring, maybe Bournemouth would take him on loan.The Newcastle that are only 5 points behind us and who create more chances than us? nyblue23 and MikeO 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c1982 Posted January 20, 2018 Report Share Posted January 20, 2018 5 minutes ago, Quinn31 said: Give Eddie Howe a ring, maybe Bournemouth would take him on loan. In King, Defoe, Wilson and Afobe they’ve arguably got better striking options than us so I can’t see that happening! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted January 20, 2018 Report Share Posted January 20, 2018 1 hour ago, duncanmckenzieismagic said: http://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2018/01/20/report-newcastle-make-loan-bid-for-evertons-sandro-ramirez/ We should snap their hand off, perfect solution all round Completely agree. If we can get him into any side that will play him every week then we should taking the deal! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted January 27, 2018 Report Share Posted January 27, 2018 https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/everton-ready-grant-sandro-ramirez-14208553 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted January 30, 2018 Report Share Posted January 30, 2018 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quinn31 Posted January 30, 2018 Report Share Posted January 30, 2018 Just now, Romey 1878 said: That's his career being done here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted January 30, 2018 Report Share Posted January 30, 2018 Seems a bit pointless him going back to Spain unless it’s with a view to a permanent transfer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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