Hafnia Posted April 22, 2018 Report Share Posted April 22, 2018 26 minutes ago, Romey 1878 said: He basically said this is what would happen when we reached 40 points, and safety. It hasn't though - we're still treated to the same negative tactics, the same negative subs, the same writing off our chances before a ball has even been kicked. The gobshite knows in his heart of hearts that if he lets the shackles off and let's the players express themselves then we will play better and get more than we achieved with his piss poor tactics and selections. He doesn't want to see the team flourish - he wants us to stumble and stutter to a point here and there justifying the seriously shit state of the squad. He wants us to be seen as being a shit team to make him look like Houdini. Which is why I want the prick fired now. Let unsworth have them and say "ok you lot.... playing for your futures now. Out you go... attack and defend as one. Play for each other" I guarantee the uplift in performance and results would be significant. As much as unsworth wasn't the answer - he had the toughest job squad wise. With Coleman, Baines, tosun, Walcott he would piss some of our results. Romey 1878, MikeO, markjazzbassist and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiggytop Posted April 22, 2018 Report Share Posted April 22, 2018 1 hour ago, hafnia said: The gobshite knows in his heart of hearts that if he lets the shackles off and let's the players express themselves then we will play better and get more than we achieved with his piss poor tactics and selections. He doesn't want to see the team flourish - he wants us to stumble and stutter to a point here and there justifying the seriously shit state of the squad. He wants us to be seen as being a shit team to make him look like Houdini. Which is why I want the prick fired now. Let unsworth have them and say "ok you lot.... playing for your futures now. Out you go... attack and defend as one. Play for each other" I guarantee the uplift in performance and results would be significant. As much as unsworth wasn't the answer - he had the toughest job squad wise. With Coleman, Baines, tosun, Walcott he would piss some of our results. Totally agree with this, he's working on a policy of making himself look good ( if that's possible IMO) at the expense of the team performing well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddock Posted April 22, 2018 Author Report Share Posted April 22, 2018 Surely he would think if he got themperforming well it would stand him in good stead of being kept on? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted April 22, 2018 Report Share Posted April 22, 2018 1 hour ago, Wiggytop said: Totally agree with this, he's working on a policy of making himself look good ( if that's possible IMO) at the expense of the team performing well. Reminds me of work.... someone had a process that they moaned and whinged about.... "it takes a full day" - wanted huge recognition for it. Played the martyr. I kept asking if I could look at making it easier "no.... I don't think there is" I applied the solution and cut the process time down by 95%..... its not nice for the other person cos they know that their inability that their inability to identify it has been publicised. Thats what it' all about with Sam. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted April 22, 2018 Report Share Posted April 22, 2018 2 minutes ago, Paddock said: Surely he would think if he got themperforming well it would stand him in good stead of being kept on? I think the 18 month contract and his unpopularity told him that it wasn't gonna be an option. Fortunately the egotistical prick has practically destroyed any slight chance there was of bring taken on longer term due to his chip on his shoulder dictating his awful behaviour. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 22, 2018 Report Share Posted April 22, 2018 6 hours ago, hafnia said: Reminds me of work.... someone had a process that they moaned and whinged about.... "it takes a full day" - wanted huge recognition for it. Played the martyr. I kept asking if I could look at making it easier "no.... I don't think there is" I applied the solution and cut the process time down by 95%..... its not nice for the other person cos they know that their inability that their inability to identify it has been publicised. Thats what it' all about with Sam. Someone working under u is bad enough in itself. I'd want recognition for that alone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted April 22, 2018 Report Share Posted April 22, 2018 27 minutes ago, yamar said: Someone working under u is bad enough in itself. I'd want recognition for that alone. I never said they worked under me..... I couldn't be doing with management - fuck that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blueblood78 Posted April 22, 2018 Report Share Posted April 22, 2018 Press are making clear that moshiri will be in attendance tomoz nite?. Hopefully he just wants confirmation of how crap tactics / team are under sam & how much fans hate him before giving him axe. So bit of weird one for me. Again there will prob b close to full capacity of fans because we will always support our club but either in bored silence or full choras of distaste for sam? I wonder how the players will react on pitch? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newty82 Posted April 22, 2018 Report Share Posted April 22, 2018 8 hours ago, Paddock said: Surely he would think if he got themperforming well it would stand him in good stead of being kept on? You'd think so, wouldn't you? But having listened to him, watched him, watched us, seen his decisions...I don't think his brain works in this kind of process. His mentality is all wrong. Completel6 wrong. Far to used to being a 'rescuer'. Pretty weird to be honest. nutmegwolf203 and Romey 1878 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornish Steve Posted April 22, 2018 Report Share Posted April 22, 2018 2 hours ago, Blueblood78 said: Press are making clear that moshiri will be in attendance tomoz nite?. Hopefully he just wants confirmation of how crap tactics / team are under sam & how much fans hate him before giving him axe. So bit of weird one for me. Again there will prob b close to full capacity of fans because we will always support our club but either in bored silence or full choras of distaste for sam? I wonder how the players will react on pitch? If it's effectively an interview for next year, he's going to do his best to win the game. For the players, the mentality will be different. (1) Am I interviewing for my job? If so, I'd better play well. (2) Do I want Crooked Sam here next year? If no, then hope we don't win. Of course, I'm being unfair on professional players who should always play to win, but they are human beings too and must realize what's going on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted April 23, 2018 Report Share Posted April 23, 2018 https://royalbluemersey.sbnation.com/2018/4/23/17269820/everton-rumours-sacking-sam-allardyce-mocks-david-unsworth-caretaker-tenure-claims-west-ham-win Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finn balor Posted April 23, 2018 Report Share Posted April 23, 2018 The man is a cunt Romey 1878, Matt and nyblue23 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newty82 Posted April 23, 2018 Report Share Posted April 23, 2018 The man will throw anyone under the bus to preserve his own image or improve it. His recent comments about Unsworth, while not really mocking, are another fine example of how Allardyce has unravelled himself infront of our eyes. Has he made any comment on any area of this club where the purpose of his comments isnt to make himself look superior? Medical, Marketing, Board, Coaches, Players...not much left really. Romey 1878 and markjazzbassist 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted April 23, 2018 Report Share Posted April 23, 2018 He is a Grade a bellend. The team played like they did before under Unsy at home however this time we scored first and grew in confidence from there. Unsy wanted clarity for both him and the squad. If they had made him manager until the end of the season he would have accepted it and ran with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post London Blue Posted April 23, 2018 Popular Post Report Share Posted April 23, 2018 3 hours ago, Romey 1878 said: https://royalbluemersey.sbnation.com/2018/4/23/17269820/everton-rumours-sacking-sam-allardyce-mocks-david-unsworth-caretaker-tenure-claims-west-ham-win If I was able to get up for the match I would be there just to chant "Allardyce out", I just hope the fans who are there do us proud and let that arrogant, obnoxious, anti-football dinosaur know what we think of him. Romey 1878, Blueherts, MikeO and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted April 23, 2018 Report Share Posted April 23, 2018 36 minutes ago, London Blue said: If I was able to get up for the match I would be there just to chant "Allardyce out", I just hope the fans who are there do us proud and let that arrogant, obnoxious, anti-football dinosaur know what we think of him. My thoughts exactly, I'm hoping to hear, "Sam Allardyce fuck off" loud and clear.....even in the unlikely event we find ourselves in front. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 23, 2018 Report Share Posted April 23, 2018 this is becoming a joke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Newty82 Posted April 23, 2018 Popular Post Report Share Posted April 23, 2018 This is a good article and manages to summarise why many of us feel the way we do. http://www.espn.co.uk/football/club/everton/368/blog/post/3467125/sam-allardyceeverton-need-to-do-more-than-just-avoid-relegation I'm sure many of us agree that Sam was a panicked appointment after we were warned off Silva, who I feel the Board, led by Moshiri, arrogantly thought could be 'bought' in with ease. And I'm sure many of us can agree that Moshiri and Co have to shoulder a good portion of blame for how this season has ended up being so chaotic. Just as the players have to shoulder a portion of blame for many heartless performances. Where we might differ in opinion is whether we were in relegation danger to start off with. And we might even differ on how quickly we 'escaped' such danger. But I think there can be no doubt that after a few wins, we were away from it all, and we were back on for a 7th place finish. Yet Sam kept chatting about avoiding relegation, even several games after we were away from all that. He kept chatting about getting to 40 points, safety...even though we were only a few points off 7th! For me, this was a big game changer in my opinion of him. No doubt about it, as people have said, he banged on and on about safety and relegation in order to falsify the great job he has done. Any manager worth their weight, after that initial run of wins, would have said 'right, we are out the shit now...lets go for 7th...then 6th...' and the whole mindset of the players and fans would have been different. No one can convince me that these players, who are in a way a result of the chaos and in some ways a cause of it, don't have the collective ability to have put pressure on Burnley in 7th. We should have had that spot. Romey 1878, markjazzbassist, StevO and 7 others 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted April 23, 2018 Report Share Posted April 23, 2018 per usual Luke O'Farrell nails it, well put newty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Blue Posted April 23, 2018 Report Share Posted April 23, 2018 The hope that is keeping me going at the moment is that when Allardyce, Walsh and his cronies have gone, we have a new manager who gets Everton. That first game at Goodison where the players are free to express themselves and go for it, with the crowd behind them and we smash some team by 3 or 4. Then we can stick it to Allardyce and his media hoe train and say that "THIS IS EVERTON" not the turgid excuse for football that he produces. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete0 Posted April 23, 2018 Report Share Posted April 23, 2018 Remember a few on here crediting Alladyce for Unsworth's last game. Are they all bellends too? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted April 23, 2018 Report Share Posted April 23, 2018 Certainly wasn’t me! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finn balor Posted April 23, 2018 Report Share Posted April 23, 2018 I think any new manager coming in gives players a kick up the arse for the first couple of matches. But I can’t seem how he can claim that has his first win Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Blue Posted April 23, 2018 Report Share Posted April 23, 2018 47 minutes ago, pete0 said: Remember a few on here crediting Alladyce for Unsworth's last game. Are they all bellends too? As a person no, but they are wrong, Allardyce's actions have proved him to be a "bellend". Unsworth said that Allardyce had no say in the team selection, preparation or team talk, after the match the players said the win was for Unsworth. The very fact Allardyce is so desperate for wins he can claim credit for, that he tries to take that from Unsworth shows the manner of the man. He is a detestable human being. Romey 1878, MikeO, Bailey and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blueherts Posted April 23, 2018 Report Share Posted April 23, 2018 Sing that c*nt out of Goodison tonight lads. London Blue 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finn balor Posted April 23, 2018 Report Share Posted April 23, 2018 I hope there’s a few banners which makes the board notice. They can’t have it both ways. Record ticket sales announced recently. They have to listen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted April 23, 2018 Report Share Posted April 23, 2018 7 hours ago, Bailey said: He is a Grade a bellend. The team played like they did before under Unsy at home however this time we scored first and grew in confidence from there. Unsy wanted clarity for both him and the squad. If they had made him manager until the end of the season he would have accepted it and ran with it. Yep. The echo and prentice has done a job.... https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/sam-allardyce-david-unsworth-setting-14566800.amp?__twitter_impression=true nyblue23 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted April 23, 2018 Report Share Posted April 23, 2018 1 hour ago, pete0 said: Remember a few on here crediting Alladyce for Unsworth's last game. Are they all bellends too? I credit idrissa gueye..... playing with Davies and Rooney as lone DM. He had a top game that night. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete0 Posted April 23, 2018 Report Share Posted April 23, 2018 7 minutes ago, hafnia said: I credit idrissa gueye..... playing with Davies and Rooney as lone DM. He had a top game that night. Boring boring boring hafnia, boring boring boring hafnia. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 23, 2018 Report Share Posted April 23, 2018 I'm hoping for NO banners, or any chanting to get him out. Get behind the boys for 90 minutes and if the board can't see past there noses come what may, then I believe it should be them that fall on the sword, coz they have the livelyhood of our club in their hands. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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