Shukes Posted January 5, 2020 Report Share Posted January 5, 2020 I already know the answer mate. No need to reply Real pissed off fan at the min. Sorry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlbanyNYToffee Posted January 6, 2020 Report Share Posted January 6, 2020 On 03/09/2019 at 14:33, AlbanyNYToffee said: Looking ahead to summer 20/21 GK: Pickford, Lossl, JVirginia DEF: Holgate, Keane, Digne, Mina, Coleman, Kenny MID: Delph, Gylfi, Morgan, Andre, Gbamin, Davies W: Richarlison, Walcott, Iwobi, Bernard, Broadhead ST: DCL, Tosun, Kean Out of contract: Stek, Baines, Sidibe (loan end), Cuco, Garbutt, Niasse Dead wood: Bolasie, Sandro, Besic Youth likely to be gone: Pennington, Connolly, Beni, Dowell Buy: CB CM resign Baines Sell: Keane Gylfi Morgan Walcott Tosun Bolasie Sandro. Get out all of you. plaidharper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC11 Posted January 6, 2020 Report Share Posted January 6, 2020 On 04/01/2020 at 12:32, markjazzbassist said: Yeah he was a beast I had to look him up after and realized heâs still young. Â One for the future. Flash in the pan. Isnât and wonât ever be a top player Cisk and Sibdane 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlbanyNYToffee Posted January 6, 2020 Report Share Posted January 6, 2020 Domestically I'd have Cantwell Choudhury Doucoure Dunk Egan Lascelles McNeil Mooy Ward-Prowse. Also think we try to steal a march on Havertz if James doesnt come in. Ikone and Ziyech are other options. Lastly think S Dest from Ajax could be a good solution if Carlo is sticking with that hybrid RB/RM role Sidibe has. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlbanyNYToffee Posted January 6, 2020 Report Share Posted January 6, 2020 This is abysmal. We'll be recovering from this for 2-3 more years to temper expectations accordinly. ARRIVALS 17/18 Players Club Transfer sum Gylfi Sigurdsson Swansea ÂŁ44.46m Michael Keane Burnley ÂŁ25.65m Jordan Pickford Sunderland ÂŁ25.65m Davy Klaassen Ajax ÂŁ24.30m Cenk Tosun Besiktas ÂŁ20.25m Theo Walcott Arsenal ÂŁ20.25m Nikola Vlasic Hajduk Split ÂŁ9.72m Henry Onyekuru KAS Eupen ÂŁ7.20m Sandro RamĂrez MĂĄlaga CF ÂŁ5.40m Wayne Rooney Man Utd Free transfer Cuco Martina Southampton Free transfer Eliaquim Mangala Man City Loan markjazzbassist 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted January 6, 2020 Report Share Posted January 6, 2020 2 hours ago, AlbanyNYToffee said: This is abysmal. We'll be recovering from this for 2-3 more years to temper expectations accordinly. ARRIVALS 17/18 Players Club Transfer sum Gylfi Sigurdsson Swansea ÂŁ44.46m Michael Keane Burnley ÂŁ25.65m Jordan Pickford Sunderland ÂŁ25.65m Davy Klaassen Ajax ÂŁ24.30m Cenk Tosun Besiktas ÂŁ20.25m Theo Walcott Arsenal ÂŁ20.25m Nikola Vlasic Hajduk Split ÂŁ9.72m Henry Onyekuru KAS Eupen ÂŁ7.20m Sandro RamĂrez MĂĄlaga CF ÂŁ5.40m Wayne Rooney Man Utd Free transfer Cuco Martina Southampton Free transfer Eliaquim Mangala Man City Loan Highlights the ineptitude of Walsh.  All of them bar Pickford were flops and overpays. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Btay Posted January 7, 2020 Report Share Posted January 7, 2020 7 hours ago, markjazzbassist said: Highlights the ineptitude of Walsh.  All of them bar Pickford were flops and overpays. Made money on Vlasic and Henry to be fair. Pickford needs to improve as well. All in all not one of those âbig moneyâ signings have been worth it. 135 million ( excluding pickford ) wasted. Steve Walsh only runs his mouth about how the board didnât want Robertson and Maguire for 20 mil though, I wouldnât have trusted him either after this shit show. markjazzbassist 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nogs Posted January 7, 2020 Report Share Posted January 7, 2020 4 hours ago, Btay said: Made money on Vlasic and Henry to be fair. Pickford needs to improve as well. All in all not one of those âbig moneyâ signings have been worth it. 135 million ( excluding pickford ) wasted. Steve Walsh only runs his mouth about how the board didnât want Robertson and Maguire for 20 mil though, I wouldnât have trusted him either after this shit show. To be fair Robertson and Maguire left Hull that same summer Walsh and Koeman went on their diabolical spending spree. So if our board turned their nose up at Maguire for Keane, more fool them. We wouldn't have got Robertson with Liverpool after him. For ÂŁ8m he was a an absolute steal. Btay 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Makis Posted January 7, 2020 Report Share Posted January 7, 2020 Walsh may have framed that to put him into a good light. For instance, how many other players that weren't signed did he suggest? Did he really suggest Maguire and someone else at the club bought Keane or did he actually suggest both? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EFC-Paul Posted January 7, 2020 Report Share Posted January 7, 2020 Cantwell is a very good shout He will be another Maddison who we missed a trick with massively I'd like us to test Palace's resolve again for Zaha, if rumours are true they want Cenk then make the deal now for the end of the season as they won't let him go now imo I rate Mings as well so depending on how Villa fair this season he would definitely be one I'd like us to look at, has very similar attributes to Van Dijk albeit a poorer version (not a bad thing tbh) It's impossible to tell if Carlo will approach anyone in this league as I'm sure he will have his mind set on players in the foreign market  Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlbanyNYToffee Posted January 7, 2020 Report Share Posted January 7, 2020 From the beginning this whole project has been fucked. The allure of a project isn't in higher compensation and overnight success. It's like a startup company. Get in early and work your ass off for nothing in the beginning and watch as you and your colleagues, who have now likely become your friends as well, accomplish things you hoped, but weren't sure, were possible. We set about this all wrong and now our wage bill might be beyond repair. I want the Cahills, Osmans, Jagielkas, Pienaars, Colemans, Baines'. Players for whom playing for a club of Everton's stature was aspirational and not something to be taken lightly. The only players who seem to have that are DCL, Davies, Cenk, Bernard and Richarlison (because he's so humble). For the most part the rest of the lot would rather be playing elsewhere. Some of them still play hard (Pickford, Digne, Holgate, Mina, Gomes, Kean, Delph, Sidibe) and others do not (Keane, Schneiderlin, Gylfi, Walcott, Iwobi). Project is not synonomous with cash. Invest in youth, invest in a true team.   Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC11 Posted January 7, 2020 Report Share Posted January 7, 2020 6 hours ago, EFC-Paul said: Cantwell is a very good shout He will be another Maddison who we missed a trick with massively I'd like us to test Palace's resolve again for Zaha, if rumours are true they want Cenk then make the deal now for the end of the season as they won't let him go now imo I rate Mings as well so depending on how Villa fair this season he would definitely be one I'd like us to look at, has very similar attributes to Van Dijk albeit a poorer version (not a bad thing tbh) It's impossible to tell if Carlo will approach anyone in this league as I'm sure he will have his mind set on players in the foreign market  No he wont Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted January 7, 2020 Report Share Posted January 7, 2020 3 hours ago, MC11 said: No he wont Iâm sure Iâm not the only one, but no idea what that is in reference to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EFC-Paul Posted January 8, 2020 Report Share Posted January 8, 2020 30 minutes ago, StevO said: Iâm sure Iâm not the only one, but no idea what that is in reference to. Presumably in reference to the Cantwell Maddison shout Steve, just that eloquently put it's gone over a few heads If so only time will tell but I think he will Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted January 8, 2020 Report Share Posted January 8, 2020 On 03/01/2020 at 00:04, StevO said: Iâd love Grealish, that lad is a real player! Theyâll want more than ÂŁ50m though, Iâm not sure heâs worth it but Iâd like to find out.  On 03/01/2020 at 04:06, Palfy said: I think Grealish is a good player, but I feel like heâs the sort of player that you need to build a team round him, and he also would want to be in that position I donât think heâs good enough for that role to take a team to the top of the PL if that makes sense. Or maybe he could just fit straight into a team and not be the main focus of the team Iâm not sure but could be an expensive gamble. Sorry lads going back in time a bit here. I like Grealish, he has grown into the type of player Barkley should have been. The only think I am not sure about is whether he would take the step up into a team that wants European football. Could you play him in a 2 man midfield in a big game against other top midfielders? If he was 10-15mil you wold pay your money and take your chance, but he will be 4-5 times that now and I think there are other players who would be more worth that price tag. On 03/01/2020 at 19:46, TallPaul1878 said: Mooy is a massively underrated player. The issue though is the same with many new signings. How will he cope with the step up to a bigger team? He has always played in teams that have less possession of the ball and more counter attacking opportunities. Will he be effective when the team expects 60-70% possession each week and the opposition are digging in deep? FYI Brighton play possession football. He can play, really tidy little footballer. You can just watch him and see that he has the brain for it. A snip at the price too, would probably come in and be our best midfielder! In respect of Cantwell, I can't claim to have seen loads of the lad but where would you play him in this set up? When I have seen him he doesn't look like he could cope in a 2 man midfield. He might fill out a bit over time but I'm not convinced. I guess Grealish did as he matured so maybe it will happen. The option then is playing him wider. He looks more like the attacking player in a 3 man midfield to me, like a De Bruyne / Maddison. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiggytop Posted January 8, 2020 Report Share Posted January 8, 2020 1 hour ago, TallPaul1878 said: Both Cantwell and Brooks receive the ball under pressure and drive their teams forward. They are young, hungry for success and I imagine they would be very proud to move to Everton and work with Ancelotti. This is our biggest selling point. These are 2 young upcoming players who have an opportunity to play for a bigger club, a top tier manager, bigger stadiums and hopefully next season a real chance at silverware. Iâd throw Dwight McNeill in aswell, drives Burnley forward, good crossing and scores a few too, But and itâs a big but, why are we not able to nurture own own at the moment, DCL, Holgate, Davies and JJK have come though but havenât made such an immediate impact, of the four I want to all, but would want Davies to step up his physicality. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlbanyNYToffee Posted January 15, 2020 Report Share Posted January 15, 2020 Quote from Brands yesterday - âWhy a squad of 23? We think thatâs enough to have a good squad to compete and also gives an opportunity for those in our academy.â Brandsâ ultimate Everton squad would comprise 23 players - 3 goalkeepers, 8 defenders, 6 midfielders and 6 forwards. So what in mind looking ahead to summer where the majority of the work is likely to be done: GK: Pickford, Lossl, JVirginia ALL SET DEF: Holgate, Keane, Digne, Mina, Coleman, Kenny NEED CB and LB MID: Delph, Gylfi, Morgan, Andre, Gbamin, Davies ALL SET FWD: Richarlison, Walcott, Iwobi, Bernard, DCL, Kean ALL SET Only point I'm trying to make is the balance of what needs to come in vs. out. Of course we'd prefer different options to Gylfi, Morgan, Walcott but if that's going to happen they have to be sold first. The only exception being in defense where we need new bodies. We won't be adding more numbers to the squad in MID or FWD. We also have quite a bit to sell off Tosun, Bolasie, Sandro, Besic, Pennington, Connolly, Beni, Dowell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibdane Posted January 15, 2020 Report Share Posted January 15, 2020 20 hours ago, AlbanyNYToffee said: Quote from Brands yesterday - âWhy a squad of 23? We think thatâs enough to have a good squad to compete and also gives an opportunity for those in our academy.â Brandsâ ultimate Everton squad would comprise 23 players - 3 goalkeepers, 8 defenders, 6 midfielders and 6 forwards. So what in mind looking ahead to summer where the majority of the work is likely to be done: GK: Pickford, Lossl, JVirginia ALL SET DEF: Holgate, Keane, Digne, Mina, Coleman, Kenny NEED CB and LB MID: Delph, Gylfi, Morgan, Andre, Gbamin, Davies ALL SET FWD: Richarlison, Walcott, Iwobi, Bernard, DCL, Kean ALL SET Only point I'm trying to make is the balance of what needs to come in vs. out. Of course we'd prefer different options to Gylfi, Morgan, Walcott but if that's going to happen they have to be sold first. The only exception being in defense where we need new bodies. We won't be adding more numbers to the squad in MID or FWD. We also have quite a bit to sell off Tosun, Bolasie, Sandro, Besic, Pennington, Connolly, Beni, Dowell Only thing I'll add here is that Delph mostly played LB for City, not that that makes him a good option. You also left out Baines... I think he's good for another year or two for cover. StevO and Matt 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted January 15, 2020 Report Share Posted January 15, 2020 also there are outgoings that need to happen to deadwood and players that aren't good enough (gylfi morgan)  GK Pickford, Lossl, Virginia DEF Mina, Holgate, Digne, Kenny, coleman, baines, keane, CB MID Andre Gbamin Davies Beni Delph CM FWD Richarlison DCL Kean Bernard Iwobi RW  CB CM and RW for me would be the needs this January. In the summer if we could get rid of Iwobi Delph Keane Walcott and get actually good players in there that would be great too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finn balor Posted January 15, 2020 Report Share Posted January 15, 2020 2 hours ago, markjazzbassist said: also there are outgoings that need to happen to deadwood and players that aren't good enough (gylfi morgan)  GK Pickford, Lossl, Virginia DEF Mina, Holgate, Digne, Kenny, coleman, baines, keane, CB MID Andre Gbamin Davies Beni Delph CM FWD Richarlison DCL Kean Bernard Iwobi RW  CB CM and RW for me would be the needs this January. In the summer if we could get rid of Iwobi Delph Keane Walcott and get actually good players in there that would be great too. Delph is going to be on huge wages so forget about moving him.iwobi I think will come good. His fitness is an issue but the don will sort that. Keane would have takers if we could get our money back. Maybe Bournemouth would be interested in a makeweight for ake? Walcott might be  worth a nibble From a few teams. Villa, Newcastle maybe ? Matt and markjazzbassist 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plaidharper Posted January 16, 2020 Report Share Posted January 16, 2020 16 hours ago, Finn balor said: Delph is going to be on huge wages so forget about moving him.iwobi I think will come good. His fitness is an issue but the don will sort that. Keane would have takers if we could get our money back. Maybe Bournemouth would be interested in a makeweight for ake? Walcott might be  worth a nibble From a few teams. Villa, Newcastle maybe ? Wonder if Southampton would take Walcott on? End it where it started? Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted January 16, 2020 Report Share Posted January 16, 2020 1 hour ago, plaidharper said: Wonder if Southampton would take Walcott on? End it where it started? Good shout but he wouldnât take the drop in wages or take a chance being relegated in my opinion Btay and Palfy 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted January 29, 2020 Report Share Posted January 29, 2020 https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/carlo-ancelotti-marcel-brands-explore-17652762 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finn balor Posted February 9, 2020 Report Share Posted February 9, 2020 Watching Bayern v Leipzig. Leipzig centre half is a beast Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted February 18, 2020 Report Share Posted February 18, 2020 On 09/02/2020 at 18:31, Finn balor said: Watching Bayern v Leipzig. Leipzig centre half is a beast Upamecano or Konate? (Or another). Think they both look promising myself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibdane Posted February 18, 2020 Report Share Posted February 18, 2020 14 minutes ago, Bailey said: Upamecano or Konate? (Or another). Think they both look promising myself. Upamecano. Konate is out with an injury. I agree though. They both look very good. I've been keeping an eye on RBL since Tyler Adams plays there, and they stick out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted February 18, 2020 Report Share Posted February 18, 2020 lookman was excellent there, keita was a beast, neither have done anything in the premier league. i don't think it's a great league to buy players from TBH. haller max meyer, etc not pulling up trees.  Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dunlopp9987 Posted February 18, 2020 Report Share Posted February 18, 2020 51 minutes ago, markjazzbassist said: lookman was excellent there, keita was a beast, neither have done anything in the premier league. i don't think it's a great league to buy players from TBH. haller max meyer, etc not pulling up trees.  It's a mixed bag. For every Max Meyer, Shinji Kagawa and Mkhitaryan, you have a Ballack, De Bruyne and Firmino Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted February 18, 2020 Report Share Posted February 18, 2020 4 minutes ago, dunlopp9987 said: It's a mixed bag. For every Max Meyer, Shinji Kagawa and Mkhitaryan, you have a Ballack, De Bruyne and Firmino my point is like 1 of 10 german imports is good. not a great ratio. de bruyne was already in the prem with chelsea he doesn't count. ballack was a decade ago! StevO 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Makis Posted February 18, 2020 Report Share Posted February 18, 2020 I would argue that it's no worse than the other big leagues. There are duds from every one of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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