markjazzbassist Posted September 19, 2020 Author Report Share Posted September 19, 2020 1 minute ago, Sibdane said: So now Kean is on so Richarlison moves back out wide? looks like 433 still with kean wide right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibdane Posted September 19, 2020 Report Share Posted September 19, 2020 Just now, markjazzbassist said: looks like 433 still with kean wide right. Looks like you’re right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted September 19, 2020 Report Share Posted September 19, 2020 Have to be first on MOTD barring something very special later. Palfy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted September 19, 2020 Author Report Share Posted September 19, 2020 the mentality was great, we went down and fought back, they leveled after the half and we continued to fight and win. DCL, James, Richarlison, Doucoure, Digne, Coleman all had a great game. On to the next! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barryj Posted September 19, 2020 Report Share Posted September 19, 2020 Top of the league. All smiles Sibdane and markjazzbassist 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter H Posted September 19, 2020 Report Share Posted September 19, 2020 49 minutes ago, Peter H said: Still think we will come away with 3 points. just saying Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuffRob Posted September 19, 2020 Report Share Posted September 19, 2020 - winning away to top 6 teams - coming back from behind to win - winning first two games of the season things we haven't been doing for years, really good omens. Rodrigues is the real deal, great touches and great goal. markjazzbassist, Matt and pete0 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoo 2.0 Posted September 19, 2020 Report Share Posted September 19, 2020 Extremely worrying how shit we were for the first hour, something that Carlo really needs to drum into the players because against another side we would have been dead and buried. The last 30 minutes were something else though, so obviously very happy overall with the three points and the way that we killed the game off. Onto Fleetwood! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post barryj Posted September 19, 2020 Popular Post Report Share Posted September 19, 2020 64 shots in first three games. Contrast to last season. Romey 1878, Btay, Matt and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted September 19, 2020 Report Share Posted September 19, 2020 We came from behind to win 5-2. Hat trick from Dom, answering Palfys call to be more cutthroat. James getting off the mark, will give him massive confidence. Damn that guy is hot. Allan again showing the dirty stuff. Richarlison was excellent again, felt sorry for him not getting a goal... but was involved in absolutely everything. RuffRob and Palfy 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aidan Posted September 19, 2020 Report Share Posted September 19, 2020 Front 3 today between them: 4 goals, 3 assists. Refreshing. markjazzbassist 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted September 19, 2020 Report Share Posted September 19, 2020 5 minutes ago, Zoo 2.0 said: Extremely worrying how shit we were for the first hour, something that Carlo really needs to drum into the players because against another side we would have been dead and buried. The last 30 minutes were something else though, so obviously very happy overall with the three points and the way that we killed the game off. Onto Fleetwood! I don’t think we were at all. Commentators were still talking about how well West Brom we’re playing even when they gave the ball away. I never thought we were in trouble, even when behind. Best moment.... Allan telling the team to calm down. Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aidan Posted September 19, 2020 Report Share Posted September 19, 2020 4 minutes ago, Shukes said: Best moment.... Allan telling the team to calm down Didnt see that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barryj Posted September 19, 2020 Report Share Posted September 19, 2020 Mina needs to improve. could have done much better for both their goals. Wiggytop and Matt 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Blue Posted September 19, 2020 Report Share Posted September 19, 2020 The midfield needs time, they have had only a couple of weeks training and 2 games so there is a lack of understanding on who pushes, who stays etc. All this will come with time. Very good performance against a West Brom team that played very very well in the first half, their passing and movement were superb. Though Siggy, Iwobi and Kean looked good when they came on. Shows we have real strength in depth. However we NEED a centre back, or two asap, although Keane and Mina were ok, we need cover and competition. RuffRob 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barryj Posted September 19, 2020 Report Share Posted September 19, 2020 6 minutes ago, Shukes said: Best moment.... Allan telling the team to calm down. Best moment (other than the 5 goals) was watching James shouting and indicating to Siggy to go forward Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elston Gunnn Posted September 19, 2020 Report Share Posted September 19, 2020 If James can continue to dominate coming in from the right, Ancelotti’s current 4-3-3 (I think .....) looks exciting. But I can see that gradually James may need to be better positioned as a 10. So although I was thrilled when we signed Gomes, he would probably move to the bench if someone develops as a dependable RW. Maybe Iwobi, but I don’t see that yet. Gordon?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aidan Posted September 19, 2020 Report Share Posted September 19, 2020 2 minutes ago, Elston Gunnn said: Ancelotti’s current 4-3-3 (I think .....) Seems flexibile. At times at spurs it looked like a 451 then a 4231 as well as a 433. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted September 19, 2020 Report Share Posted September 19, 2020 Well that was a bit of a rollercoaster! I didnt think we were playing terribly in the first half but someone in the move would just do something ridiculously sloppy or stupid and the move would break down and then we were on the backfoot. It doesnt matter who you are against if a move breaks down because you are completely out of position and scrambling. For the first goal we had our 3 midfielders covering 4 blades of grass and it gets to one of their best players and then its tough. Mina does what he should in backing off but he makes the cardinal sin of not being able to get close enough to stop the shot. We crept back into it and whilst we get a bit lucky with the first, the second was James all over. It was the perfect finish. Then Gibbs gets sent off and even though they scored it was all over, they were never going to stop us scoring. Pickford again made the saves he needed to and could do nothing about the goals. Mina was crap. He looked like he didn't know what to do and when to do it. He kept playing us into trouble with his passing and that started from the first whistle with his dreadful back pass to Pickford. Keane on the other hand was great. Completely in control. His passing and reading of the game was superb. Coleman was another that played poorly. Some of his decision making was shocking and early on his positioning would have made Sidibe look competent. Digne was solid, nothing more than that. I found Allan to be disappointing. He did a lot of pointing and 'hiding' so it will be interesting to hear some other views but that wasn't my problem. He was still trying to lead and manage the team but he was sloppy in simple situations and he then had this tendancy to chase the ball and not hold position. For the first goal, he should never have really been in the position he was, it was like there was a bit of complacency in his play. Doucoure was great again. He was everywhere and he ran the midfield for us. Loads of energy and drive. I thought Gomes was better today. There was still that element of sloppiness as with the majority of the others but he showed much more intent even if the execution wasn't always there. James was a lot quieter today but when he picked his moments they were quality. Not just any quality but elite level quality. The finish was incredible as was the ball he played to Digne in the 2nd half. Richarlison was excellent again. He was unlucky not to finish with a goal because he set two tap ins up for DCL (one through aggression one through skill) and scored an offside goal that was an brilliant finish. What impressed me most was those runs he made in behind time and time again. Always on the last man, always trying to get in on goal and it was only a matter of time until one worked out. I am made up for DCL. Through his sheer hard work and persistence at the club he has deserved a moment like this where he gets to take home the match ball. All those times he was battering into centre backs and running the channels and now he is the centre forward for a side that is creating chance after chance and today showed his predatory instinct more than anything. He probably won't score an easier hattrick. The combined distance from goal was probably about 8 yards but he needed to be there to put the ball in the back of the net. I actually thought his overall play was quite poor and he gave it away at least twice that led to dangerous counter attacks but just like Lukaku before him, if that is the price to pay then I am happy to pay it! Just as another side note, much like last week the shape we play is so much better now than it was last year. Loads of work has clearly gone into it and we have the players now that fit seamlessly into it. Finally Davide is doing a great job on the set pieces both attacking and defending. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted September 19, 2020 Report Share Posted September 19, 2020 Some minor gripes but I'm sure all will be addressed. Rodriguez is our captain ... Simple as that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuffRob Posted September 19, 2020 Report Share Posted September 19, 2020 17 minutes ago, Zoo 2.0 said: Extremely worrying how shit we were for the first hour, something that Carlo really needs to drum into the players because against another side we would have been dead and buried. The last 30 minutes were something else though, so obviously very happy overall with the three points and the way that we killed the game off. Onto Fleetwood! think you are being a little over critical. West Brom had a couple of decent 5min spells here and there (particular in the first 15m 20mins of the game) and we where on the back foot only once or twice, but this is Prem football and rare to dominate games completely, especially against newly promoted teams in the first month or two of the season when they are well up for it. Last year we may have drawn or even lost this game, today we just grew and dominated. To put in in to perspective, this is only the second game for our midfield together (four different players who have NEVER played together!!), so there is occasionally going to be the odd clinch until they properly understand one and others games - actually doing well to look as good as it does in the time they have been together. I am only expecting them to come together properly in the New year. Matt, markjazzbassist, London Blue and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoo 2.0 Posted September 19, 2020 Report Share Posted September 19, 2020 Aidan 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Btay Posted September 19, 2020 Report Share Posted September 19, 2020 Yewww Everton my last leg on my multi! Up the boys! 1:30 am here and still buzzing through the night! Loving this Everton and loving the positivity! Get around it lads, hope everyone has a great day/night! Big love!!! Zoo 2.0 and markjazzbassist 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted September 19, 2020 Report Share Posted September 19, 2020 1 hour ago, barryj said: Best moment (other than the 5 goals) was watching James shouting and indicating to Siggy to go forward To be fair, there were a few best moments. But James goal was sublime! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted September 19, 2020 Author Report Share Posted September 19, 2020 1 hour ago, Btay said: Yewww Everton my last leg on my multi! Up the boys! 1:30 am here and still buzzing through the night! Loving this Everton and loving the positivity! Get around it lads, hope everyone has a great day/night! Big love!!! its made my day too, 7:30a start for me well worth the early wakeup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Btay Posted September 19, 2020 Report Share Posted September 19, 2020 14 minutes ago, markjazzbassist said: its made my day too, 7:30a start for me well worth the early wakeup. Makes it so much better. When to my city’s afl game ( I don’t think anyone would know or understand the sport but look it up ) straight into Everton! Now kicking on with some mates, really good night! markjazzbassist 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted September 19, 2020 Report Share Posted September 19, 2020 3 hours ago, Aidan said: Seems flexibile. At times at spurs it looked like a 451 then a 4231 as well as a 433. I have zero idea why people were so convinced we were going to play 442. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aidan Posted September 19, 2020 Report Share Posted September 19, 2020 12 minutes ago, Romey 1878 said: I have zero idea why people were so convinced we were going to play 442. I read his book the week before the season began and he bangs on about how its the best formation to play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted September 19, 2020 Report Share Posted September 19, 2020 7 minutes ago, Aidan said: I read his book the week before the season began and he bangs on about how its the best formation to play. But the players we bought were a dead giveaway that we weren't going to play that formation. Ever since Carlo arrived he's banged on about playing the best formation for the players he has - 442 was perfect for what he had last season, this season it was very clear a different formation was needed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aidan Posted September 19, 2020 Report Share Posted September 19, 2020 19 minutes ago, Romey 1878 said: But the players we bought were a dead giveaway that we weren't going to play that formation. Ever since Carlo arrived he's banged on about playing the best formation for the players he has - 442 was perfect for what he had last season, this season it was very clear a different formation was needed. Not necessarily. Drop gomes out of the team and its a 442 with richarlison up front. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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