Bailey Posted August 25, 2022 Report Share Posted August 25, 2022 Shame we still have to pay some of his wages and there is no loan fee. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goodison Glory Posted August 26, 2022 Report Share Posted August 26, 2022 "Besiktas will pick up a substantial chunk of the 26-year-old’s wages, paying a guaranteed wage of €2.2million, with a maximum of €10,000 per match, depending on the time and competition of each match. Everton will also avoid having to fork out a £10million fee, as Dele falls seven appearances short of triggering the 20-match payment threshold agreed with Tottenham. Although Spurs are entitled to a decent percentage of any profit Everton make on the midfielder, there is still a sizeable saving being made on a player no longer deemed essential at Goodison" ------------- 2.2M is equivalent to around 40 grand per week. Not sure how much he was earning but 40 grand has to be around half I'd have thought. But to me this move is more about us not wanting to trigger the 10M to Spurs given he was not going to be a regular starter / can't have 15-20 min cameos triggering the fee. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiggytop Posted August 26, 2022 Report Share Posted August 26, 2022 12 hours ago, MikeO said: Just very sad on so many levels this, players quite often fail to live up to expectation/hype but I'm struggling to recall such a dramatic fall from grace. Plainly the problem is between his ears and I have great sympathy for him in that regard, but what a waste. Agreed. It’s a shame he’s fallen so far off his best, however I will always be thankful for his 45 mins against Palace. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted August 26, 2022 Report Share Posted August 26, 2022 I don’t think he’s in a good place myself. Something not right and I hope he gets better. Matt and London Blue 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted August 26, 2022 Report Share Posted August 26, 2022 9 hours ago, Hafnia said: I don’t think he’s in a good place myself. Something not right and I hope he gets better. Agree. He looks far too old in his face for a young man. Hopefully the media will leave him alone and having the spotlight off him will give him time to recover. Shukes, Hafnia, London Blue and 1 other 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted August 26, 2022 Report Share Posted August 26, 2022 42 minutes ago, Matt said: Agree. He looks far too old in his face for a young man. Hopefully the media will leave him alone and having the spotlight off him will give him time to recover. It’s odd isn’t it, like a puffiness and tiredness around the eyes. Hope the lad finds his peace Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir McGiven Posted August 26, 2022 Report Share Posted August 26, 2022 On 25/08/2022 at 23:50, MikeO said: Just very sad on so many levels this, players quite often fail to live up to expectation/hype but I'm struggling to recall such a dramatic fall from grace. Plainly the problem is between his ears and I have great sympathy for him in that regard, but what a waste. yeah, that is why Besiktas is the perfect place for him. we like mental, old "wonderkid" prospects very much and giving them chances maybe he shines here in Turkey, let's see. MikeO 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted August 26, 2022 Report Share Posted August 26, 2022 3 minutes ago, Sir McGiven said: yeah, that is why Besiktas is the perfect place for him. we like mental, old "wonderkid" prospects very much and giving them chances maybe he shines here in Turkey, let's see. Really hope he does. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir McGiven Posted August 26, 2022 Report Share Posted August 26, 2022 Well, Turkish league is garbage but sometimes getting away from your comfort zone or going to a place where you worse is the best for that community may bring your self-confidence back. To be honest, I don't think Besiktas can match-up his buy-out price so probably he'll back. So, it can work out for Everton if he focuses on his job, otherwise he'll be a garbage as he is now, nothing to win, nothing to lose. Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gwlad Posted August 26, 2022 Report Share Posted August 26, 2022 We all know people or might be the people who have gotten to a bad place and need time. Hopefully with the spotlight off him he can get his game back on course. I'm sure your blues will be with him. Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted August 27, 2022 Report Share Posted August 27, 2022 Am I missing something here can someone post the evidence that it’s a mental health issue that has.caused his football to become substandard in the last 4 years, because I’ve seen nothing, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted August 27, 2022 Report Share Posted August 27, 2022 11 hours ago, Palfy said: Am I missing something here can someone post the evidence that it’s a mental health issue that has.caused his football to become substandard in the last 4 years, because I’ve seen nothing, Thing with poor mental health is, people don't open up about it willingly. There's been massive progress in trying to encourage it and destigmatize it but at the end of the day, it's down to the individual to open up, which is grimly ironic because if you're in that place you don't want to accept it yourself, let alone broadcast it. Just look at his eyes and complexion. If he was out on the town all the time, the papers would be all over it. Something isn't right for him. StevO 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted August 27, 2022 Report Share Posted August 27, 2022 6 hours ago, Palfy said: Am I missing something here can someone post the evidence that it’s a mental health issue that has.caused his football to become substandard in the last 4 years, because I’ve seen nothing, What else would you think? Maybe not a mental health issues as such, but surely it’s something mental/emotional, or in between the ears as some put it. But you can’t see these things, so how would you? It’s not physical, because the lad is fit as a fiddle. Can’t be poor coaching, he’s had some of the best. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted August 27, 2022 Report Share Posted August 27, 2022 I don’t think players just forget how to play football. Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted August 27, 2022 Report Share Posted August 27, 2022 34 minutes ago, StevO said: What else would you think? Maybe not a mental health issues as such, but surely it’s something mental/emotional, or in between the ears as some put it. But you can’t see these things, so how would you? It’s not physical, because the lad is fit as a fiddle. Can’t be poor coaching, he’s had some of the best. Having read Lampard’s honest interview where he completely opens up on Dele in particular in training time, he criticises the player and his attitude in the most frank and honest way, surely not something you would do in public if you thought someone had serious mental health issues, I don’t know I’m not a psychiatrist so googled and that would appear correct. Why if someone can’t be arsed does it always have to be a mental health issue why can’t it just be that it’s just not that important enough to him anymore to want to put the effort in anymore, we are all different and there is not one formula that fit's all. StevO 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted August 28, 2022 Report Share Posted August 28, 2022 he doesn’t have family as he spent time in different countries when his parents split up, and seemingly no longer speaks to his mum. He changed the name on his shirt as he no longer wishes to be known as Alli, he lived with adoptive parents. This was all pretty recent. he has some emotional baggage and has done work for mental health charities. There were very strong rumours that he was addicted to computer games and has issues with sleeping tablets. all I can go on is his eyes, something not right. Looks dead behind them, no sparkle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msloan78 Posted August 30, 2022 Report Share Posted August 30, 2022 Seems to have got off to a good start in Turkey. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-11159541/Dele-Alli-Turkish-papers-laud-Besiktas-midfielder-dazzles-debut-Super-Lig-giants.html Matt and Shukes 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted August 30, 2022 Report Share Posted August 30, 2022 Great to hear for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted August 31, 2022 Report Share Posted August 31, 2022 Pleased for him that he’s found a level of football that he can perform in and not be handicapped by his mental health issues, really hope it goes well for him and both parties want to make it a permanent deal so we aren’t paying towards his wages for the next few years. London Blue 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badaids Posted August 31, 2022 Report Share Posted August 31, 2022 We all know that there’s something not right, I just hope Dele is happy. When I was younger I quit an amazing job and career that I had to work so hard to earn. After a few years doing it I realised that though I loved the journey to get there, actually doing the job made me miserable; I hated it and I knew I had to leave. So I quit and moved abroad doing far less well paid and boring jobs. But I was happy again. So I sympathise with Dele and hope he finds his voice. StevO, London Blue and Matt 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted September 4, 2022 Report Share Posted September 4, 2022 He's scored tonight. Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted September 4, 2022 Report Share Posted September 4, 2022 He also picked up an injury. Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir McGiven Posted September 5, 2022 Report Share Posted September 5, 2022 he scored a goal, he looked ambitious but did not perform well beside the goal. injury didn't seem something to worry about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goodison Glory Posted September 5, 2022 Report Share Posted September 5, 2022 The opposition he scored against (bottom of the league) were probably on par with the goals he scored vs. Blackpool I think it was. I exaggerate but let's not read too much into him scoring against bottom of the Turkish league. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted September 5, 2022 Report Share Posted September 5, 2022 MoM performance on his first appearance, goal on his second. Im just happy for him. Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wall Writer Posted September 5, 2022 Report Share Posted September 5, 2022 1 hour ago, Goodison Glory said: The opposition he scored against (bottom of the league) were probably on par with the goals he scored vs. Blackpool I think it was. I exaggerate but let's not read too much into him scoring against bottom of the Turkish league. For his sake, small steps! 1 hour ago, Shukes said: MoM performance on his first appearance, goal on his second. Im just happy for him. I agree. Really he hope he can get back to enjoying his football Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted October 19, 2022 Report Share Posted October 19, 2022 https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/besiktas-everton-dele-alli-transfer-25294385 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Btay Posted October 19, 2022 Report Share Posted October 19, 2022 Forgot about him already to be honest. Romey 1878 and Gwlad 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plaidharper Posted October 19, 2022 Report Share Posted October 19, 2022 (edited) 3 hours ago, Btay said: Forgot about him already to be honest. Who? Edited October 19, 2022 by plaidharper added image Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted November 2, 2022 Report Share Posted November 2, 2022 https://www.football365.com/news/dele-alli-has-performed-below-expectations-during-loan-spell-says-besiktas-boss-senol-gunes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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