Matt Posted August 24, 2023 Report Share Posted August 24, 2023 9 minutes ago, Bill said: Just edited it Matt. Sad that £2m and £4m is such a big issue for us now. Ironically, those 2 figures combined are what we paid the fat twat when we panic sacked Silva Romey 1878 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted August 24, 2023 Report Share Posted August 24, 2023 Clearly the gray money has changed the dynamic….. Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuffRob Posted August 24, 2023 Report Share Posted August 24, 2023 with Mc Neil and Harrison to come in to the team squad in a month we are going to make more chance, then just get a fucking half decent back up striker through the door. It is litrally taking years to do this!!! Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted August 24, 2023 Report Share Posted August 24, 2023 33 minutes ago, RuffRob said: with Mc Neil and Harrison to come in to the team squad in a month we are going to make more chance, then just get a fucking half decent back up striker through the door. It is litrally taking years to do this!!! Just McNeil and Harrison alone already means 15+ goals. DCL will be back too. As usual, it's down to the fans to make or break the team. I just hope those luckily enough to be at Goodison remain patient early on, else we'll make any relegation discussions a reality. Gwlad 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuffRob Posted August 24, 2023 Report Share Posted August 24, 2023 After the past 2-2.5 years, I am now working on the fact that DCL is a bonus and not a given for getting on the pitch. If we'd have had another 'proper' back up striker available this past two years, things would look so different at this club. I am confident we would be between 5 to 10 point better off each season with either Dom or another getting 10 more goals, and on the back of that we may have been generally a more confident teams and thus maybe another 3-6 points better off just by not being a team who shitting the bed in lots of games. The whole vibe around this club would be signficantly better by simply being a middle of the table team (which with a proper striker on the pitch we definately would be). The cost of not having another striker at the club has been absolutely massive and is getting great by the week. I think we are a stiker away from a team who would be mid table looking up and towards the future, rather than a team will one eye looking at relegation. I really think it's that simple at the moment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Formby Posted August 24, 2023 Report Share Posted August 24, 2023 39 minutes ago, Romey 1878 said: Just pay the goddamn money - if available, the guy is quality. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dunlopp9987 Posted August 24, 2023 Report Share Posted August 24, 2023 4 minutes ago, Formby said: Just pay the goddamn money - if available, the guy is quality. This was our motto for too many years and it's why we're penny pinching now Matt and StevO 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Romey 1878 Posted August 24, 2023 Popular Post Report Share Posted August 24, 2023 5 minutes ago, dunlopp9987 said: This was our motto for too many years and it's why we're penny pinching now "It's not your money, why you arsed?" was the common response when people questioned us overspending on average players. This, today, is why people were arsed. Newty82, DownUnderToff, Bailey and 4 others 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chicagoblue Posted August 24, 2023 Report Share Posted August 24, 2023 32 minutes ago, Romey 1878 said: "It's not your money, why you arsed?" was the common response when people questioned us overspending on average players. This, today, is why people were arsed. All true. Consensus here, and about anywhere else I've read, is that we're a decent striker between relegation and survival. In which case, pay it, whatever the consequences re FFP and/or sell whatever bits of China we have left. Formby 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wall Writer Posted August 24, 2023 Report Share Posted August 24, 2023 If we don't get a decent striker in, especially for the reason that we can't afford it, then it's gonna cost us more in the long run. And not even in the long run! Without a decent striker coming in we'll be sacking the manager again come Deadline Day in January. That'll be another season and another how many millions wasted on manager payoffs. Oh, and add on top of that relegation. Get the lad in. Come on Moshiri, you promised us a striker months ago! Formby 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dunlopp9987 Posted August 24, 2023 Report Share Posted August 24, 2023 2 minutes ago, Wall Writer said: If we don't get a decent striker in, especially for the reason that we can't afford it, then it's gonna cost us more in the long run. And not even in the long run! Without a decent striker coming in we'll be sacking the manager again come Deadline Day in January. That'll be another season and another how many millions wasted on manager payoffs. Oh, and add on top of that relegation. Get the lad in. Come on Moshiri, you promised us a striker months ago! To be fair, he made good on his word. We got Chermiti Wall Writer and Matt 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted August 24, 2023 Report Share Posted August 24, 2023 2 hours ago, chicagoblue said: All true. Consensus here, and about anywhere else I've read, is that we're a decent striker between relegation and survival. In which case, pay it, whatever the consequences re FFP and/or sell whatever bits of China we have left. We said that about players in January and look how well they did for their respective clubs! 1 hour ago, dunlopp9987 said: To be fair, he made good on his word. We got Chermiti Danjuma also plays up top. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Formby Posted August 24, 2023 Report Share Posted August 24, 2023 4 hours ago, dunlopp9987 said: This was our motto for too many years and it's why we're penny pinching now Circumstances very different now. A week left in a transfer window and we still need a CF. That 9 million shortfall is going to look pretty insignificant when we go down (you did say this was the season you thought it was going to happen). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornish Steve Posted August 24, 2023 Report Share Posted August 24, 2023 3 hours ago, Wall Writer said: If we don't get a decent striker in, especially for the reason that we can't afford it, then it's gonna cost us more in the long run. And not even in the long run! Without a decent striker coming in we'll be sacking the manager again come Deadline Day in January. That'll be another season and another how many millions wasted on manager payoffs. Oh, and add on top of that relegation. Get the lad in. Come on Moshiri, you promised us a striker months ago! We have DC-L, Chermiti, Danjuma, Maupay, Dobbin, and Cannon. Would you include McNeil and Harrison? I'm guessing we'll end up with one more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuffRob Posted August 24, 2023 Report Share Posted August 24, 2023 I thinking there is a slight difference in spending on a single player to fill a very specifc and glaring gap in the squad, a gap that has very near cost us relegation for two seasons on the bounce. That's not quite the same as shooting for the moon, by bringing in a conveyor belt of average players on superstar wages and fees. Another striker coming in immediately takes a lot of pressure off the club, the manager, the team and of DCL. Matt, chicagoblue, Wall Writer and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Wall Writer Posted August 25, 2023 Popular Post Report Share Posted August 25, 2023 9 hours ago, Cornish Steve said: We have DC-L, Chermiti, Danjuma, Maupay, Dobbin, and Cannon. Would you include McNeil and Harrison? I'm guessing we'll end up with one more. We can argue the toss on definitions of what a striker is or isn't, but I think what we're talking about here is a centre forward. Someone who can lead the line, hold the ball up, bring in other players, be a target man and ultimately score goals. Who on that list can you say is going to get us say 15 goals? Who can properly fill in for DCL if/WHEN he's injured? Who's capable of being a target man for the team? Maupay - a proven striker! Proven that he can't lead the line on his own. 1 goal last season. Dobbin - showed really good flashes of potential in pre-season, deserves a chance in the team. Scored 3 goals for Derby County in League 1 last season. Cannon - scored 8 in the Championship in 20 games. Not a bad return, but too early to say what he can do in the Prem. Again, deserves a chance - if he stays. However, would be misguided to say he can keep a struggling team in the Premiership at this stage of his career. Chermiti - totally unproven, 19 years old. Probably won't see much of him this season. Danjuma - Perhaps the only one on that list who could get close to 15 goals, but not a real centre forward McNeil and Harrison - hopefully, can get us 15-20 goals between them, but rather from out wide. --- This guy Beto quite probably is not the next messiah, but from all the players that we've been linked to for this role, he's the stand out for me. Big, strong, pretty nippy, can go past a player, and he's still quite young (25). That's the profile we're missing. Would also offer decent competition for DCL if and when he's fit. If we end up losing out for the sake of a couple of million, then end up pissing that money up the wall with a change in manager midway through the season, seems a bit pointless to me. Because let's be honest, if we haven't got an out and out striker in by the end of the transfer window, then we're in for another season of the same old rubbish we've had to put up with for the last few years. I really cannot abide it when people make the same mistakes expecting a different result. Matt, Newty82, Formby and 4 others 6 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patto Posted August 25, 2023 Report Share Posted August 25, 2023 Transfer fee’s going up by the day. please Everton don’t waste anymore money don’t buy anybody. just get a few loans in in the last couple of days there’s nothing to tell me Beto is any better tha Che Adams. Other than he’s 6ft 3 they want 30m if we can’t put 5m down for Adams how can we afford 30m. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boston Toffee Posted August 25, 2023 Report Share Posted August 25, 2023 I am just accustomed now to disappointment. I feel there is zero chance we get Beto. Hope I'm wrong but too many times we are in on someone and then after days of bogus stories we don't get the player Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c1982 Posted August 25, 2023 Report Share Posted August 25, 2023 This is the one they’ll keep us hanging on until deadline day when it will magically disappear… Gnonto was going to take that role but he realised what was happening and just settled back to life at Leeds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patto Posted August 25, 2023 Report Share Posted August 25, 2023 I’ve never known Everton to be this bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted August 25, 2023 Report Share Posted August 25, 2023 11 minutes ago, patto said: I’ve never known Everton to be this bad. Early 90s to my memory Shukes 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newty82 Posted August 25, 2023 Report Share Posted August 25, 2023 16 minutes ago, Matt said: Early 90s to my memory Most of the 90s wasn't it? Anytime we made a decent purchase you just knew someone else would go. Wall Writer 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Formby Posted August 25, 2023 Report Share Posted August 25, 2023 26 minutes ago, patto said: I’ve never known Everton to be this bad. Off the pitch, certainly. On the pitch, last year was points-wise our worst ever. Early 90's was horrendous, too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted August 25, 2023 Report Share Posted August 25, 2023 16 minutes ago, Newty82 said: Most of the 90s wasn't it? Anytime we made a decent purchase you just knew someone else would go. True but we also won the cup so I thought I'd be more specific Newty82 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted August 25, 2023 Report Share Posted August 25, 2023 Throwing in a fake bid for Shearer was a particular highlight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted August 25, 2023 Report Share Posted August 25, 2023 12 minutes ago, Romey 1878 said: Throwing in a fake bid for Shearer was a particular highlight. Don’t forget Alan Smith too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patto Posted August 25, 2023 Report Share Posted August 25, 2023 We may have been bad but not this bad. never in danger of going bust being 200m in debt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted August 25, 2023 Author Report Share Posted August 25, 2023 https://www.goodisonnews.com/2023/08/25/everton-transfer-news-as-agreement-close-for-udinese-striker-beto/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c1982 Posted August 25, 2023 Report Share Posted August 25, 2023 Alan Myers has confirmed that this is close… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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