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6 minutes ago, Matt said:

I don't. PC going too far. It's men playing, so it's man of the match. 

And woman of the match in women's football. What difference does it make? Madness isn't it. Nothing against 'player' of the match. Just as long as people don't start correcting me when I label a man for being 'man' of the match. Let's call a spade a spade.

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7 minutes ago, Aidan said:

And woman of the match in women's football. What difference does it make? Madness isn't it. Nothing against 'player' of the match. Just as long as people don't start correcting me when I label a man for being 'man' of the match. Let's call a spade a spade.

Exactly. It has its place in the world, but we're talking about the men's games not womens game or a mixed game. If we're having player of the match I assume we can start our ladies team instead of our current GROUP (just for Mike), we'd probably be midtable. 

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9 minutes ago, Romey 1878 said:

Fuck me, I take it back. We're going to fly up that table like we've injected Red Bull directly into the players veins now we wear shin pads and club shorts during training.

What am I reading? FUCKING SHIN PADS!

This really is a bizarre time to be an Evertonian. Stop world, I fucking want to get off :lol:.

The shinpads thing makes sense to me, but probably means our injury list is going to get a lot worse. 

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20 minutes ago, Romey 1878 said:

Fuck me, I take it back. We're going to fly up that table like we've injected Red Bull directly into the players veins now we wear shin pads and club shorts during training.

What am I reading? FUCKING SHIN PADS!

This really is a bizarre time to be an Evertonian. Stop world, I fucking want to get off :lol:.

I am all in favour. A footballing case of 'Take care of the pennies and the pounds will take care of themselves.' Instil the right attitude on the training ground and you take that out on the pitch with you on a Saturday. Instil the wrong attitude on the training ground and you take that out on the pitch with you on a Saturday.

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3 minutes ago, Romey 1878 said:

We really have become desperate for something, anything, haven't we?

I'm out, for my own sake. Shin pads, christ.

A small comparison maybe but in my airline flying days one of the airlines that I worked for insisted that pilots wore full uniforms for simulator practice. The other airlines didn't. The airline that insisted on the uniforms has gone on to be far more successful than the other airlines I worked for.

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41 minutes ago, Romey 1878 said:

Fuck me, I take it back. We're going to fly up that table like we've injected Red Bull directly into the players veins now we wear shin pads and club shorts during training.

What am I reading? FUCKING SHIN PADS!

This really is a bizarre time to be an Evertonian. Stop world, I fucking want to get off :lol:.

All this time I thought it was tactical but now I know the difference between us and Man City. 

Im going to wear my shinnies to work and see if I am Messi by the weekend.

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9 minutes ago, Bailey said:

All this time I thought it was tactical but now I know the difference between us and Man City. 

Im going to wear my shinnies to work and see if I am Messi by the weekend.

It’s actually a very smart back to basics message to the players along with running them he’s basically stamping down his authority that they have had it easy. 
 

putting shin pads on automatically gets rid of the “take it easy” nonsense. Our players are soft, they never wore shin pads but had woolly gloves, hats. Thermal tights and plenty of laughs.

Man United when winning everything trained as they played. 

 

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29 minutes ago, Palfy said:

I believe we need a massive change in direction and attitude if you want to play for this club, and if that means a change dress code in training so be it, personally I'd go a lot further, no dresses or handbags, no her cuts and dyes that make you look like someone's auntie😂

I’d be questioning how someone is able to wear half a ton of thermals if they are working hard enough. 

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I wonder what was said to Dyche during his recruitment in terms of signings. I'm confident that if the board haven't delivered on their words, Dyche will let them know.

The whole window farce makes me support Dyche even more. I think it will really add fuel to the fire in his belly.

I know the vast majority of fans will get right behind him. I think we'll see a team battling hard at Goodison, that will lift the crowd. All we want is that uplift in effort and desire.

Its gonna be tough and pretty ugly. But there is a bit of hope. We're proper underdogs, more so with every team 13th and below making at least 3 signings.

I know there is much debate about the quality in our side, but I do believe with the right direction and instruction, we have a good solid core to the team that'll suit a Dyche approach.

Strap in...its gonna be a bumpy ride!

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16 minutes ago, Newty82 said:

I wonder what was said to Dyche during his recruitment in terms of signings. I'm confident that if the board haven't delivered on their words, Dyche will let them know.

The whole window farce makes me support Dyche even more. I think it will really add fuel to the fire in his belly.

I know the vast majority of fans will get right behind him. I think we'll see a team battling hard at Goodison, that will lift the crowd. All we want is that uplift in effort and desire.

Its gonna be tough and pretty ugly. But there is a bit of hope. We're proper underdogs, more so with every team 13th and below making at least 3 signings.

I know there is much debate about the quality in our side, but I do believe with the right direction and instruction, we have a good solid core to the team that'll suit a Dyche approach.

Strap in...its gonna be a bumpy ride!

https://twitter.com/FHerbert2013/status/1620536823671050242?t=Y6UYXO5OdWY0NaZhGqSjAw&s=19

 

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Presumably Dyche will go 4-4-2 so here’s what he’s got:

GK: Pickford/Begovic

RB: Patterson (inj)/Coleman

LB: Mykolenko/Vinagre

CB: Tarkowski/Coady/Godfrey/Mina/ Keane/Holgate

CM: Iwobi/Gueye/Onana/Garner (inj)/ Doucoure/Davies

LM: McNeil

RM: Gray/Townsend (inj)

ATT: Calvert-Lewin/Maupay/Simms

Youth: Mills/ Price

Options… recall Dobbin/Cannon? Sign unwanted free agents?!


What a ridiculously imbalanced mess… 6 centre backs compared to the attacking options (lack of)… a couple of injuries to Gray/Iwobi/DCL and what have we got? We needed 2 wingers and a striker before Gordon went - DISGRACEFUL!

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All on this fella now.  If he didn’t understand why the fans have been agitated and portrayed badly in the media …… he does now. He’s been played himself. 
 

dyche is no idiot, he will have quickly joined up the dots and knows that moshiri, kenwright, dbb, sharp are a huge problem and he needs to circumnavigate the team’s attention away from what will happen in terms of protests to what goes on the pitch.

I do think a good manager could get 30% more from our players, if he can do this we have a chance but we’ve got to hope that all the teams around us who strengthened have bought lemons. 
 

feel pretty awful about the club today but I’m not letting it get me the way it did last year. I was walking round with stress and thinking about Everton from the moment I woke up. 

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1 hour ago, Hafnia said:

First press conference today at 2pm, I’ll post link when it’s on. 

the weekly grilling of the Everton manager - I bet he can't wait for his after what happened on Tuesday. Should make Thelwell and Kenwright sit next to him, as I imagine Dyche could do with a few answers himself - but that will not happen. 

Anyway, I think we could all pretty much can script the responses he will have to role out today.

One thing I will say, the owners and board have taken a massive pressure of Dyche's shoulders, by giving him a weaker squad than Lampard had. 

 

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See, this is a good summary of why I'm not worried yet. Dyche won't be a miracle worker unless your definition is "has an actual plan and instills basic discipline". He'll do what we've needed for a nearly a decade; he'll give positive discipline and an actual identity. I don't care if that identity is pretty or ugly, boring or exciting. It'll be an identity to work with and improve, because honestly we've not had that since Moyes, maybe Martinez (although I don't think that identity suited Everton) and as likeable as Frank was, he was tactically inept to a surprising level considering his experience and his backroom staff. 

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1 hour ago, Matt said:

 

 

Great analysis this.

It's easy for people to look at a team and decide that they are just lumping it to big players and throwing themselves around to top better players performing but this video really shows the good tactical work that goes into squeezing the opposition and things that we've really lacked tactically at all.

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52 minutes ago, RuffRob said:

the weekly grilling of the Everton manager - I bet he can't wait for his after what happened on Tuesday. Should make Thelwell and Kenwright sit next to him, as I imagine Dyche could do with a few answers himself - but that will not happen. 

Anyway, I think we could all pretty much can script the responses he will have to role out today.

One thing I will say, the owners and board have taken a massive pressure of Dyche's shoulders, by giving him a weaker squad than Lampard had. 

 

I think he will be refreshing, I think he will openly challenge the players in the press and explain that he won’t suffer lack of effort and that the fans can expect sweat and hard work.

I think lampard excused the players to a degree, he didn’t throw them under the bus cos he knew he wasn’t tactically spot on and relied on having them on his side.

I think dyche will be “my way or the highway”  and we will see a far more regimented approach from the players. 
 

my guess is that Cody will be in his side… I was thinking Keane but if he likes the diagonal balls from the back - Coady is exceptional at them. 

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46 minutes ago, Hafnia said:

I think he will be refreshing, I think he will openly challenge the players in the press and explain that he won’t suffer lack of effort and that the fans can expect sweat and hard work.

I think lampard excused the players to a degree, he didn’t throw them under the bus cos he knew he wasn’t tactically spot on and relied on having them on his side.

I think dyche will be “my way or the highway”  and we will see a far more regimented approach from the players. 
 

my guess is that Cody will be in his side… I was thinking Keane but if he likes the diagonal balls from the back - Coady is exceptional at them. 

only problem is the team all but picks itself, especially offensively, given the depth of the squad. What can Dyche to realistically for any players who not doing it 'his way'. That will be his biggest problem - he doesn't have the luxury of putting players on the highway. 

He is going to have to rely on all of the players stepping up to the plate. His skills as a man manager as well as his tactics are going to be put to the test this next 4 months. 

Finger crossed for him, as I like the fella.  

 

 

 

 

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55 minutes ago, Hafnia said:

Really engaging interviewer, players can’t fail to know where they stand.

seems to have a good feel for the club already. 

Maybe he should concentrate on asking the board to back him and the team instead of asking the fans to when we do anyway though, eh?

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37 minutes ago, Romey 1878 said:

Maybe he should concentrate on asking the board to back him and the team instead of asking the fans to when we do anyway though, eh?

I didn’t see it that way. I think he’s smart enough to know he’s got to play with what he’s got now, questioning the board now is pointless from his perspective, he said it’s on the players under his supervision. 

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48 minutes ago, Romey 1878 said:

Maybe he should concentrate on asking the board to back him and the team instead of asking the fans to when we do anyway though, eh?

Not what he's saying though, pretty sure he emphasised how important we are many times. He was basically asking for a short-term truce so the players could focus on playing. He knows we're behind the team, even when we lose patience after the first 10 mins and the "youse are fucking shit, yer fucking shithouses" start.

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2 minutes ago, Matt said:

Not what he's saying though, pretty sure he emphasised how important we are many times. He was basically asking for a short-term truce so the players could focus on playing. He knows we're behind the team, even when we lose patience after the first 10 mins and the "youse are fucking shit, yer fucking shithouses" start.

There won't be a truce. We can back the team and protest against the knob heads in charge. It's not either/or.

If anything, the protests will go up a notch now. As they should.

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Just now, Romey 1878 said:

There won't be a truce. We can back the team and protest against the knob heads in charge. It's not either/or.

If anything, the protests will go up a notch now. As they should.

No, it's not either or in general, it is between the whistles.

Every manager asks for the fans support and at a time when the relationship with the club is so toxic and fractured, emphasising unity for the game is just common sense. I've no doubt what he's said about the transfer window dealings in that press conference is not remotely the same as he's had behind the scenes. 

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Just now, Matt said:

No, it's not either or in general, it is between the whistles.

Every manager asks for the fans support and at a time when the relationship with the club is so toxic and fractured, emphasising unity for the game is just common sense. I've no doubt what he's said about the transfer window dealings in that press conference is not remotely the same as he's had behind the scenes. 

He's focusing on what he can change, not on what he cannot. That makes perfect sense to me.

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1 minute ago, Matt said:

No, it's not either or in general, it is between the whistles.

Every manager asks for the fans support and at a time when the relationship with the club is so toxic and fractured, emphasising unity for the game is just common sense. I've no doubt what he's said about the transfer window dealings in that press conference is not remotely the same as he's had behind the scenes. 

And there's been no mention of protesting during matches, only to support the players on the pitch. In fact, the organisers of the protests have been at pains to let it be known any protests are for before and after games.

No one needed to ask for our support last season when the club was in trouble. We came together and dragged that team over the line, unconditionally. What was the thanks for that? Ah yes, to be dragged through the mud this season.

So just shut the fuck up and get on with your job. It's like it's being questioned if we support the team or not. It's getting right under my skin now.

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11 minutes ago, Romey 1878 said:

And there's been no mention of protesting during matches, only to support the players on the pitch. In fact, the organisers of the protests have been at pains to let it be known any protests are for before and after games.

No one needed to ask for our support last season when the club was in trouble. We came together and dragged that team over the line, unconditionally. What was the thanks for that? Ah yes, to be dragged through the mud this season.

So just shut the fuck up and get on with your job. It's like it's being questioned if we support the team or not. It's getting right under my skin now.

I know why you see it that way, I just didn't see it the same. Like I said, every manager does it when they come in, it's no different now. 

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What pisses me off is the rhetoric from the club as a whole against the protest's of the fans, is when they say get behind and support the team what they really mean is keep quiet know your place and support our inept actions. Well they can fuck off with that angle of attack against us, we as fans have always supported the team through thick and thin, what we won't allow to happen is to have the wool pulled over our eyes and support the owner and his board for the disgraceful way they are killing our club. 

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1 hour ago, MikeO said:

 

Hilarious that he’s making them do the beep test. Part a warning about fitness, and part trying to see fitness for himself.

Players like Beckham and Joe Cole at their best could go the whole way up to level 21 and all the way back down again.

 

 

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19 minutes ago, badaids said:

Hilarious that he’s making them do the beep test. Part a warning about fitness, and part trying to see fitness for himself.

Players like Beckham and Joe Cole at their best could go the whole way up to level 21 and all the way back down again.

 

 

Sad that I don't think I've ever seen it in our training videos. It was good to see a couple of them doubled over catching their breathe instead of laughing and joking. 

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3 hours ago, Matt said:

Sad that I don't think I've ever seen it in our training videos. It was good to see a couple of them doubled over catching their breathe instead of laughing and joking. 

Mina was pathetic. And plenty of them weren't going until the line.

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5 hours ago, Romey 1878 said:

The surprise I feel about this. Surely all the dancing he does builds his fitness and stamina?

Fucking fraud.

To be fair to Mina, he has picked the wrong sport. With a build like that he should be a basketball player!

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Just a couple of minutes into that first week video. Anyone pick up on the detail of him walking off on his own to stride the training pitch then he says something to Thelwall like 'that's the size of a UEFA B pitch, I think Goodison is a bit different...' then couldn't make out the rest of the convo. I think that's a level of detail that tells a story.

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1 hour ago, Newty82 said:

Just a couple of minutes into that first week video. Anyone pick up on the detail of him walking off on his own to stride the training pitch then he says something to Thelwall like 'that's the size of a UEFA B pitch, I think Goodison is a bit different...' then couldn't make out the rest of the convo. I think that's a level of detail that tells a story.

I seen that, good detail. Apparently he looks at pitch dimensions carefully.

 

just listened to his interview….. not sure who has briefed him in relation to the fans and the cause of unrest. 

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