seve Posted August 26, 2015 Report Share Posted August 26, 2015 I think of the effect on the club and manager will take a big hit if we sell stones We have only just had the 5 year plan speech and I asked how many would still be here in 2 years time ? The rest of the good youngsters we have wont believe a word of it and they will see us as a feeder club. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted August 26, 2015 Report Share Posted August 26, 2015 Let's just put a bid in for Messi, now Barca are a selling g club too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest rusty747 Posted August 26, 2015 Report Share Posted August 26, 2015 (edited) Anything less than keeping Stones and a Yarmolenko, or similar quality, signing and I will have lost the last bit of trust and belief I was hanging on to for our leadership. I am sorry Bill's health is not good but there is something wrong with the entire management set up when we can end up in this situation less than a week from the end of the window. I will reluctantly be joining the 'sack the board' camp if Stones is allowed to go. Edited August 26, 2015 by rusty747 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted August 26, 2015 Report Share Posted August 26, 2015 Let's just put a bid in for Messi, now Barca are a selling g club too. You're learning sarcasm, I like it . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captainbeaker Posted August 26, 2015 Report Share Posted August 26, 2015 I think of the effect on the club and manager will take a big hit if we sell stones We have only just had the 5 year plan speech and I asked how many would still be here in 2 years time ? The rest of the good youngsters we have wont believe a word of it and they will see us as a feeder club. Stones has asked for a Transfer, we haven't transfer listed him or tried to push him out. Surely it would be a worse sign keeping players that don't want to be here. It shows that Everton are a good club to help you develop as a player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest rusty747 Posted August 26, 2015 Report Share Posted August 26, 2015 (edited) Stones has asked for a Transfer, we haven't transfer listed him or tried to push him out. Surely it would be a worse sign keeping players that don't want to be here. It shows that Everton are a good club to help you develop as a player. Couldn't disagree with you more. He is contracted to play for us for another 4-5 years and will be a vital part of our development. Let him go and you may as well kiss goodbye to all of our other promising youngsters and put Barkley and Lukaku up for sale too. We must keep Stones, even if it is in the Reserves to demonstrate our belief in ourselves as a club and to make a stand against the Chelsea bully boys. Edited August 26, 2015 by rusty747 markjazzbassist 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Blue Posted August 26, 2015 Report Share Posted August 26, 2015 Stones has asked for a Transfer, we haven't transfer listed him or tried to push him out. Surely it would be a worse sign keeping players that don't want to be here. It shows that Everton are a good club to help you develop as a player. Other clubs have refused transfer requests and it has worked for them. It will work for us. markjazzbassist 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornish Steve Posted August 26, 2015 Report Share Posted August 26, 2015 If it was my decision, I'd keep him but, without him having to ask, increase his weekly wage by 50%. markjazzbassist and MikeO 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riscon Posted August 26, 2015 Report Share Posted August 26, 2015 I get a feeling this was all planned. We was supposed to have bought all our players at beginning of the window. Then in the last month or so things have been going crazy with defenders and strikers being chased and Martinez talking about us needing three players. I personally think that Stones was a done deal a few weeks ago... I am not a fan of one up front and think a pace strike partner would suit Lukaku. We have also need a Mikel Arteta type player who can control the game with vision and passing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted August 26, 2015 Report Share Posted August 26, 2015 If it was my decision, I'd keep him but, without him having to ask, increase his weekly wage by 50%.disagree with the wage increase, he only just signed a new contract Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted August 26, 2015 Report Share Posted August 26, 2015 disagree with the wage increase, he only just signed a new contract On £30k a week apparently. Undervalued if that's the case so I'd give him the raise. markjazzbassist 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee_in_LA Posted August 26, 2015 Report Share Posted August 26, 2015 https://twitter.com/EFCsupporters/status/636592613060157441/photo/1 markjazzbassist 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted August 26, 2015 Report Share Posted August 26, 2015 (edited) Couldn't disagree with you more. He is contracted to play for us for another 4-5 years and will be a vital part of our development. Let him go and you may as well kiss goodbye to all of our other promising youngsters and put Barkley and Lukaku up for sale too. We must keep Stones, even if it is in the Reserves to demonstrate our belief in ourselves as a club and to make a stand against the Chelsea bully boys. amen brother spot on. hold on to him, have him play. he's a pro. as was mentioned multiple times already :shaking fist: by MikeO and myself, the Suarez situation is similar and by holding onto him they only benefitted. Some could argue same with Dortmund and Lewandowski. He helped them maintain CL and then left, they proved they aren't a selling club or Bayern's bitch. I want us to do this. Edited August 26, 2015 by markjazzbassist Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee_in_LA Posted August 26, 2015 Report Share Posted August 26, 2015 He is also in our starting 11 today. Definitely does not mean that he is staying by any stretch of the imagination but if he would have been out of our lineup, it would have all but meant that he was gone markjazzbassist 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c1982 Posted August 26, 2015 Report Share Posted August 26, 2015 On £30k a week apparently. Undervalued if that's the case so I'd give him the raise. Agree, if he was to stay £50-60k would be 'fair' based on what I would guess our pay structure is. Romey 1878 and markjazzbassist 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EFC-Paul Posted August 26, 2015 Report Share Posted August 26, 2015 Kinell Paul your penchant for Evans is worrying. Belive me mate I don't want either but I feel there's a strong chance that Evans will be one player we bring in Far from a fan if you read previous posts but if I had to have either going off cost to ability I'd take Evans over Jones but preferably neither! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornish Steve Posted August 26, 2015 Report Share Posted August 26, 2015 I just hope Everton fans don't boo him this evening. Psychologically, that might just push him over the edge. Right now, we should be cheering him like crazy to demonstrate support! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest rusty747 Posted August 26, 2015 Report Share Posted August 26, 2015 Agree, if he was to stay £50-60k would be 'fair' based on what I would guess our pay structure is. Offer him a new contract on double his current salary for another 5-6 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted August 26, 2015 Report Share Posted August 26, 2015 I just hope Everton fans don't boo him this evening. Psychologically, that might just push him over the edge. Right now, we should be cheering him like crazy to demonstrate support! I agree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted August 26, 2015 Report Share Posted August 26, 2015 On £30k a week apparently. Undervalued if that's the case so I'd give him the raise. Really?! Then fuck yeah, put him on 60k and put a 70m release clause (for what theyre worth) in there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nogs Posted August 26, 2015 Report Share Posted August 26, 2015 He's an old school CB, so he's not going to be a Stones replacement. I could handle it a bit better if CB is the only position he was used in though. All this talk about him being able to play numerous positions is bull; he really isn't able at all. I'm starting to think I may have been on United's books in a past life and they let me go, because whenever we're linked with one of theirs I get pissed off . For me its the huge psychological adjustment required to start cheering someone I hated with a vengeance because they played for Manure... and the mrs saying 'didn't you say ... about him', just to remind me like. Romey 1878 and Toffee_in_LA 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milesey05 Posted August 26, 2015 Report Share Posted August 26, 2015 John stones for sale? Martinez " not at all" markjazzbassist 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newty82 Posted August 26, 2015 Report Share Posted August 26, 2015 (edited) Roberto just emphasising in his post match interview that Stones is not at all for sale and that in football money cannot buy you everything and you have to have a set of values. Loved that. Edited August 26, 2015 by Newty82 markjazzbassist, Romey 1878 and Toffee_in_LA 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeQuince Posted August 26, 2015 Report Share Posted August 26, 2015 (edited) Love the way Roberto handled the post-match interview. Said "money can't buy everything," reiterated that Stones is a big part of the plans for the club going forward, and, when asked if he's for sale, said "no, not at all." Edit: Seems many of us are happy with it! Edited August 26, 2015 by JoeQuince Toffee_in_LA, Romey 1878 and markjazzbassist 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted August 26, 2015 Report Share Posted August 26, 2015 Not at all? Could he really refuse to sell him? I'd love to see that happen. Romey 1878, markjazzbassist and Toffee_in_LA 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted August 26, 2015 Report Share Posted August 26, 2015 John stones for sale? Martinez " not at all" Loved hearing that, hope we stick to it. markjazzbassist, Romey 1878 and Toffee_in_LA 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msloan78 Posted August 26, 2015 Report Share Posted August 26, 2015 Mumbled through a little bit, but the gist I got from Martinez post match comments was that Stones won't be going. '...money can't always get you everything' '...massive part of what we are looking to do' Is John Stones for sale? '...No, not at all' I really hope we manage to stick to our guns on this! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milesey05 Posted August 26, 2015 Report Share Posted August 26, 2015 Loved hearing that, hope we stick to it. Just shouted get in. That single comment from Roberto has just changed my mind on a few things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyblue23 Posted August 26, 2015 Report Share Posted August 26, 2015 Very happy about all this. Vindicated, both as a team and an individual. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newty82 Posted August 26, 2015 Report Share Posted August 26, 2015 ...although on tonight's showing, they can have him! Haha! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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