Palfy Posted September 24, 2021 Report Share Posted September 24, 2021 8 hours ago, Btay said: Seriously though - if Gana isn’t getting time at PSG we should be all over getting him back on loan. Seriously Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Btay Posted September 24, 2021 Report Share Posted September 24, 2021 1 hour ago, Palfy said: Seriously You want a hard working team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted September 24, 2021 Report Share Posted September 24, 2021 Just now, Btay said: You want a hard working team. I do, I want hard working players with ability and a brain as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted September 24, 2021 Report Share Posted September 24, 2021 1 hour ago, Palfy said: I do, I want hard working players with ability and a brain as well. Then Gana on loan makes perfect sense! Sibdane and Btay 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted September 27, 2021 Report Share Posted September 27, 2021 https://www.footballinsider247.com/sources-crystal-palace-set-sights-on-everton-star-after-davies-talks-update/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted September 27, 2021 Report Share Posted September 27, 2021 13 minutes ago, duncanmckenzieismagic said: https://www.footballinsider247.com/sources-crystal-palace-set-sights-on-everton-star-after-davies-talks-update/ 'Everton star' . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuffRob Posted September 27, 2021 Report Share Posted September 27, 2021 If we can get a reasonable fee for Tom it may be time for him to move on in the summer, and bring in a fresh face instead. He had a great run of 3 or 4 games last year, but just does not seem to have that consistency about his game. He might do better in a team where he is on the team sheet week in week out. I don't think he is going to find that in a team who want to battle for European places. It's a shame when a youngster doesn't quite make the grade required, as nothing more satisfying than seeing a young local player come through and make it to the very top. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted September 27, 2021 Report Share Posted September 27, 2021 I would let Davies got for cheap or nothing. He has cost nothing but wages, and he has been loyal and hard working. We should either give him an extended first team chance, or let him go for his own sake. Let the lad have chance to make an impression somewhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted September 27, 2021 Report Share Posted September 27, 2021 Twice that we know of he has refused the opportunity to go elsewhere and would rather stay and fight for his place, whilst he’s under contract you can’t force him leave. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Blue Posted September 27, 2021 Report Share Posted September 27, 2021 I think he could do a job in a midfield 3, but he will never get a run in that system. He is a useful squad player, ;oyal to the club and always gives his best. If he goes them we have to spend money on a better replacement, if we can identify and get one then let him go. Thats two big if's. Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted October 2, 2021 Report Share Posted October 2, 2021 If only he had the sense to shoot rather than pass to Yerry in an offside position at the end today Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Romey 1878 Posted October 2, 2021 Popular Post Report Share Posted October 2, 2021 Just now, duncanmckenzieismagic said: If only he had the sense to shoot rather than pass to Yerry in an offside position at the end today He definitely should have shot, but if he'd shot and not scored then he gets stick for that too. When a goal isn't scored in that situation then I think he's damned either way. Sibdane, MikeO, Bailey and 5 others 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted October 2, 2021 Report Share Posted October 2, 2021 3 minutes ago, Romey 1878 said: He definitely should have shot, but if he'd shot and not scored then he gets stick for that too. When a goal isn't scored in that situation then I think he's damned either way. It was obvious Mina was in an offside position and he had a clear sight of goal himself so there should have only been one thing going through his mind and it was not to pass to Yerry Maybe it’s a confidence thing but he should definitely have taken the shot on Sibdane 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c1982 Posted October 2, 2021 Report Share Posted October 2, 2021 Another way to look at it is why didn’t Mina run across Lindelof’s path? Would have been a certain pen or opened it up more for Davies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dunlopp9987 Posted October 2, 2021 Report Share Posted October 2, 2021 Just now, c1982 said: Another way to look at it is why didn’t Mina run across Lindelof’s path? Would have been a certain pen or opened it up more for Davies. Also Mina had a clear look across the line. I understand he's not an attacker by nature, but he could've done a better job at staying on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c1982 Posted October 2, 2021 Report Share Posted October 2, 2021 3 hours ago, dunlopp9987 said: Also Mina had a clear look across the line. I understand he's not an attacker by nature, but he could've done a better job at staying on Yep! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted October 2, 2021 Report Share Posted October 2, 2021 4 hours ago, c1982 said: Another way to look at it is why didn’t Mina run across Lindelof’s path? Would have been a certain pen or opened it up more for Davies. 4 hours ago, dunlopp9987 said: Also Mina had a clear look across the line. I understand he's not an attacker by nature, but he could've done a better job at staying on Just watched it again on MotD and I think the pundits were spot on , Poor decision by Davies who basically bottled it Tom Davies was clean through with only the keeper to beat and had all the time in the world, it shouldn’t matter what Mina was doing he has to take the shot If his confidence is low it’s understandable but still a bad decision that has cost us two points Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Blue Posted October 2, 2021 Report Share Posted October 2, 2021 A decision born out of a lack of confidence, needs the team, manager and fans to help him get his confidence back. Pitty as he had played a few nice pass's before that. Matt, StevO and RuffRob 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Btay Posted October 3, 2021 Report Share Posted October 3, 2021 No issue with him passing. I think he showed composure and awareness. Mina more at fault for getting in front of him. Cornish Steve and StevO 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted October 3, 2021 Report Share Posted October 3, 2021 4 hours ago, Btay said: No issue with him passing. I think he showed composure and awareness. Mina more at fault for getting in front of him. But that’s the thing he showed a complete lack of awareness, otherwise he would have realised that passing the ball forward to a teammate when you’re through one on one with the keeper was an obvious offside As I say I just think he bottled it and didn’t fancy himself to score, it’s just the sign of a player low on confidence Do you think if that had fallen to Townsend he would have passed in that situation? Bailey 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Blue Posted October 3, 2021 Report Share Posted October 3, 2021 A player low on confidence believes they will not score, so what do they do, shoot and not score and get slated for missing an easy chance, or put the ball accross the face of goal and create a chance for someone else. What we need to do is build players confidences so they want to take that shot on. StevO 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted October 3, 2021 Report Share Posted October 3, 2021 2 minutes ago, London Blue said: A player low on confidence believes they will not score, so what do they do, shoot and not score and get slated for missing an easy chance, or put the ball accross the face of goal and create a chance for someone else. What we need to do is build players confidences so they want to take that shot on. That is very easy to answer, he passed it forward to a player clearly offside so the chance is gone. There is only one thing he should be doing and that is shooting I agree it’s the managers job, and to a lesser extent the crowds job , to help him get his confidence back and I think the best way to do that is to get him a loan move to a Championship side so he can hit the rest button and play week in week out and get his career back on track because it’s stalling badly at the moment. The only problem with that is we are so low on squad numbers we need all the bodies we can get I’ve followed his career quite closely because he caught my eye as a real prospect when playing in an U18’s derby and I still believe there is a good player in there but he is stagnating at the moment, if anything his career is going backwards so I would like to see us get a top midfielder in January and then ship him out on loan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Blue Posted October 3, 2021 Report Share Posted October 3, 2021 It was tough because a forward player would have known to stay level. But Davies should have played it more square. Let's just say it was a missed opportunity. I have also followed Davies's career to and I agree with you to a large extent. Managers have wanted other options in midfield, yet kept Tom around as cover. This has hurt his development as he is denied the first team football he needs. A loan would be great, although I think he needs a Premier league loan. Would do him the world of good to show what he can do as a regular starter. I agree there is a good player in there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC11 Posted October 3, 2021 Report Share Posted October 3, 2021 Awful decision making in front of goal there. Agree he’s a player lacking confidence but that’s because he’s playing in the wrong league. A career in the championship would be best suited at this present time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Blue Posted October 3, 2021 Report Share Posted October 3, 2021 10 minutes ago, MC11 said: Awful decision making in front of goal there. Agree he’s a player lacking confidence but that’s because he’s playing in the wrong league. A career in the championship would be best suited at this present time How do we know if he is a premier league player unless he plays regularly for a premier league team There has been interest for him from premier league teams. Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Btay Posted October 5, 2021 Report Share Posted October 5, 2021 On 03/10/2021 at 16:52, duncanmckenzieismagic said: But that’s the thing he showed a complete lack of awareness, otherwise he would have realised that passing the ball forward to a teammate when you’re through one on one with the keeper was an obvious offside As I say I just think he bottled it and didn’t fancy himself to score, it’s just the sign of a player low on confidence Do you think if that had fallen to Townsend he would have passed in that situation? The best teams score tap in goals all the time like that. Still got no issue with him and his decision to be honest, can fully understand it. StevO and London Blue 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted October 5, 2021 Report Share Posted October 5, 2021 5 hours ago, Btay said: The best teams score tap in goals all the time like that. Still got no issue with him and his decision to be honest, can fully understand it. Whilst the offside rule may well not apply to some of the Sky 6 alas we have to play by the rules, and it was a clear offside as soon as he passed it forward. He may as well have just picked the ball up and handed it to the keeper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted October 5, 2021 Report Share Posted October 5, 2021 I definitely think it is a confidence issue. I don't dislike the thought of passing in that situation as such, but it was clear to every man and his dog that Mina was well ahead of the Utd players and Davies had a great angle for the shot. It's a shame because it would have been great for him to have scored and for us to get the win over United, but it is certainly not something I would lay into him for. I bet he hits it next time. Romey 1878 and duncanmckenzieismagic 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hf,Hr,Hwamp..PR Posted October 5, 2021 Report Share Posted October 5, 2021 As a regularly watcher of the U23 in the years before covid, remember watching Tom and thinking bit of a headless chicken but could be coached into a role, unsure which (still am) and thought that he needed a League 1 loan, now that was around 5 years ago and I fear it's now too late for him, I hope not because as he's a local lad I want him to succeed, I was hoping he could be an Ossie type for us, kind of useful to have around and probably one of the first names on the bench, but as time goes on I don't think he makes the bench so a move maybe best for his career, because I don't think he will be anything more than a squad filler here. I don't think it's Toms fault but moreso over the last 5 years or so the club hasn't done the best for Tom, constant managerial upheavel or for what ever reason he never got the loan that, to me, he so desperately needed. I hope Rafa can make a player of him as there was a couple of months under CA where he was probably our best player in the awful dross we were served up in our fall to 10th. Just bit of context on my view of players around the same time we had Liam Walsh who I enjoyed watching and thought he maybe the next Arteta. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted October 5, 2021 Report Share Posted October 5, 2021 7 hours ago, Btay said: The best teams score tap in goals all the time like that. Still got no issue with him and his decision to be honest, can fully understand it. Was very unfortunate that Mina impeded Lindelöf who was trying to get back to cover, if he hadn't Lindelöf might well have played him on. Btay and StevO 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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