Fosse Captain Posted June 2, 2022 Report Share Posted June 2, 2022 I suppose giving a local lad a new contract is cheaper than buying someone cos he’ll be snap their hand off to stay?! Problem is ……… he’s just a bit shit. Baffled at the length of the contract reported! Romey 1878 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted June 3, 2022 Report Share Posted June 3, 2022 Cheap wages long contract = profit if sold. That’s the only reason I can think. Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Btay Posted June 3, 2022 Report Share Posted June 3, 2022 14 minutes ago, Shukes said: Cheap wages long contract = profit if sold. That’s the only reason I can think. Reality is we should have bought a first team right back 2 seasons ago and Patterson should be pushing said player for the starting spot. Now we have an ageing RB who struggled a lot in periods last season, potentially a 25 year old home grown lad who has done nothing convince he is premier league let alone alone championship & a young, promising international RB but massively untested in the premier league. Not good. Would have taken Sidibe on a free over re signing Kenny. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted June 3, 2022 Author Report Share Posted June 3, 2022 1 hour ago, Btay said: Not good. Would have taken Sidibe on a free over re signing Kenny. You go too far. plaidharper, Bailey and Fosse Captain 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted June 3, 2022 Report Share Posted June 3, 2022 1 hour ago, Btay said: Reality is we should have bought a first team right back 2 seasons ago and Patterson should be pushing said player for the starting spot. Now we have an ageing RB who struggled a lot in periods last season, potentially a 25 year old home grown lad who has done nothing convince he is premier league let alone alone championship & a young, promising international RB but massively untested in the premier league. Not good. Would have taken Sidibe on a free over re signing Kenny. Whilst it can't be disputed that he is an international player, had Patterson played for a half decent country he wouldn't have made the squad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aidan Posted June 3, 2022 Report Share Posted June 3, 2022 Well there are certainly benefits of keeping him on, I'm not sure they outweigh the negatives though (mainly his quality). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted June 3, 2022 Report Share Posted June 3, 2022 I see know point in keeping any players out of contract that can’t improve the team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plaidharper Posted June 3, 2022 Report Share Posted June 3, 2022 A back up / squad player who is local and doesn't mind riding the bench for super low wages in theory is not the worst idea given our current dire financial situation but have to feel for all the full backs in our youth set up. If Kenny resigns, it blocks the pathway. For example Kyle John is already 21. What does this mean for him? One year left on his contract and never been out on loan. Then again maybe it will be easier to sell the youth compared to Kenny who we were unable to move on for any fee at all and is now on a free. We are a mess is so many places. Really hoping Thelwell can sort it. Already pushed Unsworth out but has so much more to do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Btay Posted June 3, 2022 Report Share Posted June 3, 2022 6 hours ago, Romey 1878 said: You go too far. I’m not saying sidibe is a top quality player but he is better than Kenny. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Btay Posted June 3, 2022 Report Share Posted June 3, 2022 5 hours ago, Bailey said: Whilst it can't be disputed that he is an international player, had Patterson played for a half decent country he wouldn't have made the squad. More referencing where has gathered experience at a higher level than the Scottish league. If kenny was Scottish I doubt he would make their squad still. Palfy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted June 3, 2022 Report Share Posted June 3, 2022 I can see the logic in it if the wages aren’t daft tbh. Coleman is in the last throws of his career and will hopefully handing over the baton to Patterson as our first choice RB . However he is still untried and Coleman isn’t getting any younger so having another option is not a bad idea IMO A 3 year contract gives us cover for next season then once Patterson proves himself we sell JJK for a modest fee as opposed to losing him on a free. Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted June 3, 2022 Report Share Posted June 3, 2022 4 minutes ago, duncanmckenzieismagic said: I can see the logic in it if the wages aren’t daft tbh. Coleman is in the last throws of his career and will hopefully handing over the baton to Patterson as our first choice RB . However he is still untried and Coleman isn’t getting any younger so having another option is not a bad idea IMO A 3 year contract gives us cover for next season then once Patterson proves himself we sell JJK for a modest fee as opposed to losing him on a free. Have we got a decent youngster coming through that maybe good enough to use as cover in a year or so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted June 4, 2022 Report Share Posted June 4, 2022 11 hours ago, Palfy said: Have we got a decent youngster coming through that maybe good enough to use as cover in a year or so. Kyle John maybe, hopefully they can get him out on loan in the Championship next season and see what he is all about Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted June 4, 2022 Report Share Posted June 4, 2022 2 minutes ago, duncanmckenzieismagic said: Kyle John maybe, hopefully they can get him out on loan in the Championship next season and see what he is all about Thanks I’ll keep an eye on his progress. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted June 4, 2022 Report Share Posted June 4, 2022 12 hours ago, Btay said: More referencing where has gathered experience at a higher level than the Scottish league. If kenny was Scottish I doubt he would make their squad still. Im not sure playing competitive games against the likes of Moldova and Israel is something to shout about I think you would be surprised by Kenny or moreso how poor Scotland are. Look at the level Tavernier was playing at before he went to Rangers. Then look at the previous right backs or right wing backs and see their level. It must be so frustrating to be Scotland manager and have two really good left backs and then a void on the right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c1982 Posted June 4, 2022 Report Share Posted June 4, 2022 11 hours ago, Palfy said: Have we got a decent youngster coming through that maybe good enough to use as cover in a year or so. 23 minutes ago, duncanmckenzieismagic said: Kyle John maybe, hopefully they can get him out on loan in the Championship next season and see what he is all about Stan Mills (Danny Mills’ son) too - often plays on the wing but talk that he’ll end up as an attacking right back. Supposedly a very good prospect. Palfy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted June 10, 2022 Report Share Posted June 10, 2022 He has turned down the contact and is leaving Ahead of the release of the Premier League retained lists, Everton have taken up the option to extend Asmir Begovic’s deal for a further year – and offered a new contract to fellow goalkeeper Andy Lonergan. Jonjoe Kenny was also offered fresh terms but has decided to move on in pursuit of a new opportunity elsewhere. Full-back Kenny, who made 50 Premier League appearances, joined Everton aged nine and spent 16 years with the Club, skippering the Under-23s to Premier League 2 glory in 2017. In professional age groups, Joe Anderson, Jack Barrett, Elijah Campbell, Liam Higgins, Mackenzie Hunt, Einar Iversen, Mathew Mallon, Sean McAllister and Patrick Nash have all been offered new contracts. The Club is also in negotiations with Lewis Gibson over a new deal. Everton wishes to thank all departing players for their contribution throughout their time at the Club. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted June 10, 2022 Report Share Posted June 10, 2022 He turned it down!!! Can I get a Patterson 2 shirt now please? In seriousness, I hope Jonjoe goes on to have a good career at a top flight club somewhere. He’s clearly a good lad, just not a good enough player. Wish him nothing but the best. badaids, plaidharper, Bailey and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gwlad Posted June 10, 2022 Report Share Posted June 10, 2022 Good luck to him, probably the best decision to go and get regular first team football. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuffRob Posted June 10, 2022 Report Share Posted June 10, 2022 fair do's to him - he obviously wants to be on the pitch playing football, so best of luck to him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Matt Posted June 10, 2022 Popular Post Report Share Posted June 10, 2022 Good luck to him. Could've just taken a wage but wants to play, gotta respect that. Sibdane, Vranny, Bailey and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted June 10, 2022 Author Report Share Posted June 10, 2022 YESSSSSS! StevO 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patto Posted June 10, 2022 Report Share Posted June 10, 2022 1 hour ago, Matt said: Good luck to him. Could've just taken a wage but wants to play, gotta respect that. Wage probably wasn’t enough Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plaidharper Posted June 10, 2022 Report Share Posted June 10, 2022 JJK is a blue and all the best to him in his journey. Schalke are back in the Bundesliga. Wonder if he is going back there? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted June 10, 2022 Report Share Posted June 10, 2022 30 minutes ago, patto said: Wage probably wasn’t enough Based on what? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FairWooney Posted June 10, 2022 Report Share Posted June 10, 2022 good on him. At 25 if he wants to make something of his career he needs to go somewhere where he will be first choice. in England i'd say that would be a top championship team or possibly a newly promoted type EPL side. Good luck to him, he had his moments and took his chance well when Lampard put him in the team but ultimately not good enough to get a regular place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpartyBlue Posted June 10, 2022 Report Share Posted June 10, 2022 1 hour ago, Matt said: Good luck to him. Could've just taken a wage but wants to play, gotta respect that. True though it means we have a problem to solve at RB. Once Seamus leaves we will have Patterson who is promising but a question mark and now true cover. So either we bring someone in or we continue to just play Holgate or Godfrey out of position which isn’t ideal. If Patterson doesn’t develop then we’d be in a bind there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted June 10, 2022 Report Share Posted June 10, 2022 12 minutes ago, SpartyBlue said: True though it means we have a problem to solve at RB. Once Seamus leaves we will have Patterson who is promising but a question mark and now true cover. So either we bring someone in or we continue to just play Holgate or Godfrey out of position which isn’t ideal. If Patterson doesn’t develop then we’d be in a bind there. That's for next season then I guess, IF Patterson doesn't progress. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fosse Captain Posted June 10, 2022 Report Share Posted June 10, 2022 Passionate Blue and always tries his hardest so never an issue with commitment, just an issue of his ability (or lack of) Play elsewhere, will get plenty of games and have a decent career. At 25 should be playing week in, week out. Didn’t just take the money and waste another 3 (?) years here. So can’t fault him on that. Gwlad and Matt 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted June 10, 2022 Author Report Share Posted June 10, 2022 I enjoyed moving this to general. Sibdane and Matt 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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