Paddock Posted October 19, 2017 Report Share Posted October 19, 2017 He’s the only one so far who is doing his job- the plan was to replace Lukakus goals with multiple players- Klassen, Sandro and Sigguardsun (I can’t ever remember how to spell the fucking thing) have done fuck all in terms of chipping in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newty82 Posted October 19, 2017 Report Share Posted October 19, 2017 5 hours ago, Shukes said: Is he on four for the season so far? If he can get into double figures then I’ll be happy with him. I think he try’s a bit too hard sometimes. That's the only thing letting him down - trying too hard. He's trying to be all over the pitch but he aint got the legs for it, or he has, just not for a full 90 minutes. This leads to tiredness which leads to sloppy give aways. And his passing can be really sloppy just as much as it can be really majestic. If he can pace himself, he'll be much more effective. Romey 1878, Matt and Shukes 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newty82 Posted October 19, 2017 Report Share Posted October 19, 2017 15 minutes ago, Paddock said: He’s the only one so far who is doing his job- the plan was to replace Lukakus goals with multiple players- Klassen, Sandro and Sigguardsun (I can’t ever remember how to spell the fucking thing) have done fuck all in terms of chipping in. This is a key note for what Koemans plan seemed to be - get players in who can score goals from several positions. In pre season, when we were signing these guys, it wouldn't have been to over the top to expect around 10 goals from each of Rooney, Sandro, Klassen and Sigurdsson based on their previous stints and reputations. It's why I think so much emphasis was put on these players and not as much (as far as we know) on a striker. Hindsight and all that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted October 21, 2017 Report Share Posted October 21, 2017 http://www.evertonfc.com/news/2017/10/19/rooney Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quinn31 Posted October 25, 2017 Report Share Posted October 25, 2017 It's him or Gylfi as the number 10 for me. Rooney is a disaster up top and Gylfi is a disaster out wide. No room for both in the team. Vranny, Matt and markjazzbassist 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted October 25, 2017 Report Share Posted October 25, 2017 1 minute ago, Quinn31 said: It's him or Gylfi as the number 10 for me. Rooney is a disaster up top and Gylfi is a disaster out wide. No room for both in the team. At least Glyfi could offer something from set pieces and work hard if nothing else Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted October 25, 2017 Report Share Posted October 25, 2017 Absolute poop tonight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted October 25, 2017 Author Report Share Posted October 25, 2017 let's hope this manager has the balls to do what ron wouldn't, bench rooney. Matt and London Blue 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 25, 2017 Report Share Posted October 25, 2017 He's shit, end of.... There's only so many games his name will carry him. If we can drop our most expensive signing, we can drop a has been. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete0 Posted October 26, 2017 Report Share Posted October 26, 2017 16 hours ago, Quinn31 said: It's him or Gylfi as the number 10 for me. Rooney is a disaster up top and Gylfi is a disaster out wide. No room for both in the team. League wise he has 4 in 9 games, a goal every 170.5 minutes. That's a slightly better ratio than Lukaku 15/16, and if Rooney was to play every minute he'd get 20 goals over a season. He won't play every minute so if you go by 4 over 9, he will be good for almost 17 goals. If anything Rooney is trying too hard to get involved. Get the midfield to do their job and Rooney won't have to wonder back to get the ball, which will spare him more energy to go forward, and the manager should put the onus on him to stay in the box to score even more goals than currently expected. He's still got 20 goals in him if played efficiently. Although I'd still be happy with 15+. The midfield need to do more, not Rooney. Take Sigurdssen, for example, he has zero goals in 659 minutes. Same goes for every player behind the strikers. I'll not bother with the maths it's all a big fat zero for the lot of them. Assists wise they don't fair much better either, with the whole midfield (Davies) contributing two assists. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete0 Posted October 26, 2017 Report Share Posted October 26, 2017 14 hours ago, yamar said: He's shit, end of.... There's only so many games his name will carry him. If we can drop our most expensive signing, we can drop a has been. Think being the club's top scorer might help him keep his spot. Vardy is the only striker, outside of the usual top 6, who has scored more goals than Rooney this season so far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newty82 Posted October 26, 2017 Report Share Posted October 26, 2017 He just needs to hold his position and stop trying to do everything. It knackered him out, then his passing goes to shit. He's not quite been the same since his drink drive binge, I'm sure some home pressures are playing a part in that. pete0, Romey 1878 and Matt 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 26, 2017 Report Share Posted October 26, 2017 4 hours ago, pete0 said: Think being the club's top scorer might help him keep his spot. Vardy is the only striker, outside of the usual top 6, who has scored more goals than Rooney this season so far. It's easy Roscoe goals whilst not putting any other shift in. Bet ya DCL would love to stand in the middle and wait for a chance. The poor lad has to take beatings to get any chance of scoring with the way he's played. Lukaku done what Rooney's doing and got slated... Just saying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddock Posted October 26, 2017 Report Share Posted October 26, 2017 If it wasn’t for Rooneys goals we’d be bottom of the table- he’s not been great but he’s at least scoring. StevO, Vranny, chicagoblue and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete0 Posted October 26, 2017 Report Share Posted October 26, 2017 35 minutes ago, yamar said: It's easy Roscoe goals whilst not putting any other shift in. Bet ya DCL would love to stand in the middle and wait for a chance. The poor lad has to take beatings to get any chance of scoring with the way he's played. Lukaku done what Rooney's doing and got slated... Just saying. Not by the majority of us. Think most of us would give a left nut for him to still be here. Quinn31 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 26, 2017 Report Share Posted October 26, 2017 1 hour ago, pete0 said: Not by the majority of us. Think most of us would give a left nut for him to still be here. Why? We now have money. I'd rather buy a striker who can score against the elite away from goodison. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted October 26, 2017 Report Share Posted October 26, 2017 I’d like any player who is consistently contributing to points on the board. Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete0 Posted October 26, 2017 Report Share Posted October 26, 2017 25 minutes ago, yamar said: Why? We now have money. I'd rather buy a striker who can score against the elite away from goodison. His stats held up against all the strikers in the league against the so called elite. Matt and StevO 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c1982 Posted November 5, 2017 Report Share Posted November 5, 2017 He didn’t look interested today - lost count of how many times he gave it away in the 1st half. He needs dropping as the tempo rose the moment he left the pitch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddock Posted November 5, 2017 Report Share Posted November 5, 2017 Crazy because he was one of the few who gave a fuck for me- he put in some belting tackles and tracked back- he is trying too hard imo but in no way did he look uninterested- to me anyway. pete0 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c1982 Posted November 5, 2017 Report Share Posted November 5, 2017 I thought he was trudging around - he did throw a couple of tackles in but kept doing silly little mistake laced passes - putting us into trouble. He and Baines down the left just slowed everything down on too many occasions. Maybe it was just me but I thought he stunk the place out. Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete0 Posted November 5, 2017 Report Share Posted November 5, 2017 31 minutes ago, c1982 said: I thought he was trudging around - he did throw a couple of tackles in but kept doing silly little mistake laced passes - putting us into trouble. He and Baines down the left just slowed everything down on too many occasions. Maybe it was just me but I thought he stunk the place out. Baines giving the world slowest overlap doesn't help him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddock Posted November 5, 2017 Report Share Posted November 5, 2017 33 minutes ago, c1982 said: I thought he was trudging around - he did throw a couple of tackles in but kept doing silly little mistake laced passes - putting us into trouble. He and Baines down the left just slowed everything down on too many occasions. Maybe it was just me but I thought he stunk the place out. Baines was awful today for me- looked like he wanted to be setting rockets off in his back garden with the kids. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c1982 Posted November 5, 2017 Report Share Posted November 5, 2017 3 minutes ago, pete0 said: Baines giving the world slowest overlap doesn't help him. I agree. 1 minute ago, Paddock said: Baines was awful today for me- looked like he wanted to be setting rockets off in his back garden with the kids. Yep but then put in our 1st decent corner in a long time... sure we paid £45m for a set piece specialist... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 5, 2017 Report Share Posted November 5, 2017 Did say Baines was finished a year ago and said he would be badly exposed this season. Now everyone's on the wagon. Hello lads. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted November 5, 2017 Report Share Posted November 5, 2017 Baines was poor today, but got an assist and the winner. Take that every game. Matt and Sev 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted November 6, 2017 Author Report Share Posted November 6, 2017 1 hour ago, yamar said: Did say Baines was finished a year ago and said he would be badly exposed this season. Now everyone's on the wagon. Hello lads. To be fair you haven’t been on the forum in years so how were we to know? Paddock, Hafnia and pete0 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted November 6, 2017 Report Share Posted November 6, 2017 9 hours ago, yamar said: Did say Baines was finished a year ago and said he would be badly exposed this season. Now everyone's on the wagon. Hello lads. You should post a link to this comment that you made Brett.... I don't think it would have made you a football genius.... a fair few on here have been saying baines had lost his legs for quite some time. Saved you a job.... Me and tallpaul called it on 10th November last year. Very sad to see... probably my favourite player over past 10 years. A gent... class act. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddock Posted November 6, 2017 Report Share Posted November 6, 2017 It would help if we had cover at left back- still can’t fathom how Garbutt never got a squad number when we had zero other left backs meaning Baines could have een asked to play 60 plus games this season if we’d of progressed in the Europa etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted November 6, 2017 Report Share Posted November 6, 2017 it would also help both full backs if they had actual wide midfielders in front of them who knew how to play out there and offer some cover. Matt and Romey 1878 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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