Sibdane Posted June 11, 2021 Report Share Posted June 11, 2021 9 minutes ago, Matt said: Shouldn't have let him go Might turn out to be the best thing for him. He's gotten plenty of playing time and has avoided the carousel of coaches at Everton. Palfy, StevO, Quinn31 and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted June 11, 2021 Report Share Posted June 11, 2021 5 hours ago, Sibdane said: Might turn out to be the best thing for him. He's gotten plenty of playing time and has avoided the carousel of coaches at Everton. True. I just wish he'd had that time with us. But you're right, best he was allowed game time and protected from the drama around the club too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoo 2.0 Posted June 11, 2021 Report Share Posted June 11, 2021 Vlasic made the right choice leaving us, he was at a mismanaged club with an imbalanced squad and a poor manager. I've not followed his progress in Moscow but have heard that he seems to be the leagues better players and growing each season - it just worries me that Oumar Niasse looked like a top class player in the Russian League. If the price was right, I'd like to have him back but considering he seemed unhappy here (his sister kept posting stuff about the club remember) I don't think he would come back. Sibdane 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibdane Posted June 12, 2021 Report Share Posted June 12, 2021 2 hours ago, Zoo 2.0 said: Vlasic made the right choice leaving us, he was at a mismanaged club with an imbalanced squad and a poor manager. I've not followed his progress in Moscow but have heard that he seems to be the leagues better players and growing each season - it just worries me that Oumar Niasse looked like a top class player in the Russian League. If the price was right, I'd like to have him back but considering he seemed unhappy here (his sister kept posting stuff about the club remember) I don't think he would come back. I think their situations aren’t comparable though. Vlasic has experience in the PL(although limited) and looked decent in his cameos for us and has excelled in the Russian league; worries me though that he was let go in the first place. Niasse was barely a one season wonder. He was incredibly lucky to get the goals he did. I know some will say “that’s great positioning.” But personally I think he was extremely fortunate, and that’s it. His athleticism helped him a lot. Let me add that it’s also completely obvious that Vlasic is miles ahead of Niasse in terms of technical ability. Just watch one game of either, and it’s completely obvious. Quinn31 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted June 12, 2021 Report Share Posted June 12, 2021 https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/nikola-vlasic-everton-transfer-message-20792112 Btay 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted June 12, 2021 Report Share Posted June 12, 2021 13 hours ago, Zoo 2.0 said: Vlasic made the right choice leaving us, he was at a mismanaged club with an imbalanced squad and a poor manager. I've not followed his progress in Moscow but have heard that he seems to be the leagues better players and growing each season - it just worries me that Oumar Niasse looked like a top class player in the Russian League. If the price was right, I'd like to have him back but considering he seemed unhappy here (his sister kept posting stuff about the club remember) I don't think he would come back. Just following on from @Sibdane's post I dont think Niasse did look a top class player in Russia. I can only think he looked like a player that could find the net with a good work ethic but needed a hell of a lot of polishing. I would be more worried that McGeady looked a decent player over there but based purely on stats Vlasic is doing far better than he ever did. I always liked the look of Vlasic. He seemed to have the brain to go along with the skill and that isnt easy to find. Sibdane 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted June 12, 2021 Report Share Posted June 12, 2021 4 hours ago, Bailey said: Just following on from @Sibdane's post I dont think Niasse did look a top class player in Russia. I can only think he looked like a player that could find the net with a good work ethic but needed a hell of a lot of polishing. I would be more worried that McGeady looked a decent player over there but based purely on stats Vlasic is doing far better than he ever did. I always liked the look of Vlasic. He seemed to have the brain to go along with the skill and that isnt easy to find. A brain, velco-like feet, pace and balance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted June 12, 2021 Report Share Posted June 12, 2021 Only issue he had was some attitude issues. If he has grown up and matured maybe those have been resolved. I was a big supporter of his until the attitude stuff. Here’s to hoping… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted June 12, 2021 Report Share Posted June 12, 2021 56 minutes ago, markjazzbassist said: Only issue he had was some attitude issues. If he has grown up and matured maybe those have been resolved. I was a big supporter of his until the attitude stuff. Here’s to hoping… I don't remember any attitude stuff Btay, MikeO and pete0 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bill Posted June 12, 2021 Popular Post Report Share Posted June 12, 2021 Can't believe he is still only 23, we should have treated him better and never got rid. Romey 1878, Palfy, pete0 and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted June 12, 2021 Report Share Posted June 12, 2021 3 hours ago, markjazzbassist said: Only issue he had was some attitude issues. If he has grown up and matured maybe those have been resolved. I was a big supporter of his until the attitude stuff. Here’s to hoping… I think it was more his family going public about how unhappy he was and badly he had been treated, obviously those stories would have come from him in private chats with his family, when you’re a young man miles from home and you feel things are conspiring against you it must be very tough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted June 12, 2021 Report Share Posted June 12, 2021 4 hours ago, Matt said: I don't remember any attitude stuff Me neither. I remember his sister making a few comments. But I also remember her sex tape. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted June 13, 2021 Report Share Posted June 13, 2021 9 hours ago, Matt said: I don't remember any attitude stuff This week Vlasic has sat down for a new interview with Croatian outlet Sportske Novosti. During the interview, Vlasic has mocked Everton for thinking they are as good as Tottenham: Everton has spent $100 million last year on reinforcements. Only three players – Richarlison, (Yerry) Mina and (Lucas) Digne – cost about 90 million. Everton are looking for great names and players from big clubs, like Barcelona. Despite these immense investments, the team is currently in the 11th place. That means there will be new, big purchases (in the future). I know (Everton) have decided internally that they will try to be the new Tottenham and join the biggest league clubs. What went wrong for Vlasic at Everton Vlasic also opened up about why his move to Everton didn’t work out. For the Croatian, his problems are all Sam Allardyce’s fault: Everything changed after (Ronald) Koeman left. The football played under Big Sam was awful, if it could even be called football. In such football I do not have a place. The football team was terrified by everything – the fans mostly. I read another piece where he asked Silva if he was a guaranteed starter, when he said no, he said I’d rather leave. Guy didn’t wanna fight for his place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Btay Posted June 13, 2021 Report Share Posted June 13, 2021 I’d have him back in a heartbeat. Quality player and does well internationally. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted June 13, 2021 Report Share Posted June 13, 2021 2 hours ago, markjazzbassist said: This week Vlasic has sat down for a new interview with Croatian outlet Sportske Novosti. During the interview, Vlasic has mocked Everton for thinking they are as good as Tottenham: Everton has spent $100 million last year on reinforcements. Only three players – Richarlison, (Yerry) Mina and (Lucas) Digne – cost about 90 million. Everton are looking for great names and players from big clubs, like Barcelona. Despite these immense investments, the team is currently in the 11th place. That means there will be new, big purchases (in the future). I know (Everton) have decided internally that they will try to be the new Tottenham and join the biggest league clubs. What went wrong for Vlasic at Everton Vlasic also opened up about why his move to Everton didn’t work out. For the Croatian, his problems are all Sam Allardyce’s fault: Everything changed after (Ronald) Koeman left. The football played under Big Sam was awful, if it could even be called football. In such football I do not have a place. The football team was terrified by everything – the fans mostly. I read another piece where he asked Silva if he was a guaranteed starter, when he said no, he said I’d rather leave. Guy didn’t wanna fight for his place. That seems to be after he left the club, but how true are those words, we keep spending big and finishing in double figures. He should have been kept on he like DCL Godfrey and Niels were brought in to be part of the future, to help give the team stability for years to come, constantly buying big name players on huge wages who are near the end of their careers is trying to take the easy option, we should be looking at more Vlasic’s to bring into the team, and when we get them try and keep them after all they do have a great future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted June 13, 2021 Report Share Posted June 13, 2021 3 hours ago, markjazzbassist said: This week Vlasic has sat down for a new interview with Croatian outlet Sportske Novosti. During the interview, Vlasic has mocked Everton for thinking they are as good as Tottenham: Everton has spent $100 million last year on reinforcements. Only three players – Richarlison, (Yerry) Mina and (Lucas) Digne – cost about 90 million. Everton are looking for great names and players from big clubs, like Barcelona. Despite these immense investments, the team is currently in the 11th place. That means there will be new, big purchases (in the future). I know (Everton) have decided internally that they will try to be the new Tottenham and join the biggest league clubs. What went wrong for Vlasic at Everton Vlasic also opened up about why his move to Everton didn’t work out. For the Croatian, his problems are all Sam Allardyce’s fault: Everything changed after (Ronald) Koeman left. The football played under Big Sam was awful, if it could even be called football. In such football I do not have a place. The football team was terrified by everything – the fans mostly. I read another piece where he asked Silva if he was a guaranteed starter, when he said no, he said I’d rather leave. Guy didn’t wanna fight for his place. Is he wrong? I think he did the right thing by himself to find out whether he was part of the plans and if not, get himself out somewhere to play regularly. It has clearly worked too. pete0, StevO, Matt and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted June 13, 2021 Report Share Posted June 13, 2021 2 hours ago, Bailey said: Is he wrong? I think he did the right thing by himself to find out whether he was part of the plans and if not, get himself out somewhere to play regularly. It has clearly worked too. Exactly this. He wanted to play regular football, he got that and has become an important player for his national team. Seems like it all worked out fine for him. If he’s good enough to play for us now I’d be more than happy to see him come back. Sibdane, Matt and Bailey 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted June 13, 2021 Report Share Posted June 13, 2021 Hasn’t made the starting line up, shame I was looking forward to seeing him play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted June 13, 2021 Report Share Posted June 13, 2021 1 minute ago, Palfy said: Hasn’t made the starting line up, shame I was looking forward to seeing him play. He'd probably look like Messi against the team Southgate put together and get us priced out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted June 13, 2021 Report Share Posted June 13, 2021 Just now, Hafnia said: He'd probably look like Messi against the team Southgate put together and get us priced out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dunlopp9987 Posted August 29, 2021 Report Share Posted August 29, 2021 https://www.theguardian.com/football/2021/aug/29/west-ham-close-on-cska-moscow-nikola-vlasic Damn, would love to see him here again. Think his time away has served him well. pete0 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibdane Posted August 29, 2021 Report Share Posted August 29, 2021 I will blow a fuse if he goes to West Ham. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dunlopp9987 Posted August 29, 2021 Report Share Posted August 29, 2021 20 minutes ago, Sibdane said: I will blow a fuse if he goes to West Ham. They've got that Europa league money. We've got that "made one too many shitty deals and are now paying for it" money Bailey 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c1982 Posted August 29, 2021 Author Report Share Posted August 29, 2021 1 hour ago, dunlopp9987 said: They've got that Europa league money. We've got that "made one too many shitty deals and are now paying for it" money …and 15% of whatever CSKA receive. dunlopp9987 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isaiah Posted August 31, 2021 Report Share Posted August 31, 2021 I live in Russia and follow the Russian league closely. He's a decent player but still nothing special. I can't stress enough how much lower the standard is here than in the Prem, more so now than even when we were signing Billy. We're not missing out by not signing Vlasic for the reported fee (30 million euros is way too much in my opinion). Palfy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete0 Posted August 31, 2021 Report Share Posted August 31, 2021 5 hours ago, Isaiah said: I live in Russia and follow the Russian league closely. He's a decent player but still nothing special. I can't stress enough how much lower the standard is here than in the Prem, more so now than even when we were signing Billy. We're not missing out by not signing Vlasic for the reported fee (30 million euros is way too much in my opinion). Do you rate Townsend over him? From his limited time here I thought Vlasic was a little bit special on top of his work rate. Matt and Btay 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted August 31, 2021 Report Share Posted August 31, 2021 I think he'll do well for West Ham to be honest. Might not set the world alight but I don't see him flopping. Sibdane 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted August 31, 2021 Report Share Posted August 31, 2021 Gutted. I think he's a cracking player. Sibdane and Btay 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Btay Posted August 31, 2021 Report Share Posted August 31, 2021 Good player. Wish him nothing but the best. Burns me that we let him go when I thought he had the potential to be something special. Matt and Sibdane 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted August 31, 2021 Report Share Posted August 31, 2021 I like him but that is a lot of money for someone who has only proven himself in the Russian league. Sibdane 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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