London Blue Posted August 31, 2021 Report Share Posted August 31, 2021 Well the good news is we have a world class creative player that, if he wants to get back into the Columbia squad will have to earn that right with us. The fact that nobody bid for him may give him a point to prove. Plus he is a world class player. Benitez will have to work his management skills to bring him back into the squad, but both are professionals so that shouldnt be a problem. The only question is how does he fit into Benitez's strategy? Matt and duncanmckenzieismagic 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Posted August 31, 2021 Report Share Posted August 31, 2021 He'll have to get a rocket up his arse to chase back, and learn the art of tackling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuffRob Posted August 31, 2021 Report Share Posted August 31, 2021 It will be interesting to see how he gets on. He arrived with a bit of a fanfare (at least on social media) in last years transfer window. Came in very much as the marquee signing to work under a manager who he knew would endulge him and let him play his game. All very different for him nearly 12months later, he has lost much of his gloss at both club football and at National level. Lets hope is willing to get his head down and give this season a good crack and prove his doubters wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isaiah Posted August 31, 2021 Report Share Posted August 31, 2021 Rafa's desperate to succeed here and James wants to play in next year's world cup. I'm optimistic both will get their heads down, set aside whatever personal differences they might have, and do the best they can. I'm happy James is still with us. Matt, London Blue and StevO 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete0 Posted September 1, 2021 Report Share Posted September 1, 2021 36 minutes ago, Isaiah said: Rafa's desperate to succeed here and James wants to play in next year's world cup. I'm optimistic both will get their heads down, set aside whatever personal differences they might have, and do the best they can. I'm happy James is still with us. One is a football genius, the other just a bloke who wants to manage a club near his home. It's not quite personal differences, it's completely different levels of seeing/playing football. chicagoblue, duncanmckenzieismagic and dunlopp9987 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted September 1, 2021 Report Share Posted September 1, 2021 8 hours ago, Palfy said: Looks like he’s staying whether by choice or not doesn’t really matter I’m sure Rafa will give him every chance to play his way into the first eleven, and if this is the case I hope he try’s to do what is asked of him. Plus Shukes is going to see him in the flesh in a Everton shirt I don’t know who deserves it more Shukes or James enjoy mate. Thanks mate. Got tickets for Burnley and Norwich, so might see him after all. Well it’s either him or Delpth! Palfy, Btay and pete0 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Posted September 1, 2021 Report Share Posted September 1, 2021 8 hours ago, RuffRob said: Lets hope he is willing to get his head down and give this season a good crack and prove his doubters wrong. I don't think he can, he's a fancy footballer and doesn't have the fitness or fight to make it in the premier league. It speaks volumes that not one club wanted to take him off us, even on a free. He arrived with a massive wave of expectation, our saviour who was going to lift the gloom from Goodison park but it never quite worked out. As we all know he's a nice footballer but not a bloke I'd want beside me in the trenches. patto 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Blue Posted September 1, 2021 Report Share Posted September 1, 2021 10 minutes ago, Bill said: I don't think he can, he's a fancy footballer and doesn't have the fitness or fight to make it in the premier league. It speaks volumes that not one club wanted to take him off us, even on a free. He arrived with a massive wave of expectation, our saviour who was going to lift the gloom from Goodison park but it never quite worked out. As we all know he's a nice footballer but not a bloke I'd want beside me in the trenches. He can make it, he just needs players to do the pressing, tackling and tracking back that he cant do. Play to his strengths and he is a great asset. This is a squad game. StevO and Matt 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post duncanmckenzieismagic Posted September 1, 2021 Popular Post Report Share Posted September 1, 2021 46 minutes ago, Bill said: I don't think he can, he's a fancy footballer and doesn't have the fitness or fight to make it in the premier league. It speaks volumes that not one club wanted to take him off us, even on a free. He arrived with a massive wave of expectation, our saviour who was going to lift the gloom from Goodison park but it never quite worked out. As we all know he's a nice footballer but not a bloke I'd want beside me in the trenches. Pretty certain it was his wages rather than his ability which prevented clubs coming in for him, which is hardly surprising given the current climate I think he has already proven that he is more than capable of making it in the Premier League when fit and I don’t see his fitness as much of a problem because I can’t see Rafa staring him in many games anyway, but what an option he could be coming off the bench markjazzbassist, MC11, Romey 1878 and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete0 Posted September 1, 2021 Report Share Posted September 1, 2021 3 hours ago, Bill said: I don't think he can, he's a fancy footballer and doesn't have the fitness or fight to make it in the premier league. It speaks volumes that not one club wanted to take him off us, even on a free. He arrived with a massive wave of expectation, our saviour who was going to lift the gloom from Goodison park but it never quite worked out. As we all know he's a nice footballer but not a bloke I'd want beside me in the trenches. How hasn't he worked out? When fit he was involved in half our goals. Hard to his fight when most the injuries/niggles were down to getting fouled every week with very little protection from the referees. Only difference is we don't moan about vvd every week. 2 hours ago, duncanmckenzieismagic said: Pretty certain it was his wages rather than his ability which prevented clubs coming in for him, which is hardly surprising given the current climate I think he has already proven that he is more than capable of making it in the Premier League when fit and I don’t see his fitness as much of a problem because I can’t see Rafa staring him in many games anyway, but what an option he could be coming off the bench He took a massive wage cut to come here. So don't think money is an issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Posted September 1, 2021 Report Share Posted September 1, 2021 Whatever you say but Rafa thinks differently, so much so that Gray and Townsend will probably start ahead of him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete0 Posted September 1, 2021 Report Share Posted September 1, 2021 3 minutes ago, Bill said: Whatever you say but Rafa thinks differently, so much so that Gray and Townsend will probably start ahead of him. Because Rafa would rather a player cross the ball from a certain position into a certain area. Compared to James who make passes most players can't even see are on. If this was Alladyce no way would the fans be so accepting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted September 1, 2021 Report Share Posted September 1, 2021 "James Rodriguez, Moise Kean, Fabian Delph and how Rafa Benitez transfer plans were restricted on deadline day - Liverpool Echo" https://www-liverpoolecho-co-uk.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/everton-transfer-james-kean-benitez-21451219.amp?amp_gsa=1&_js_v=a6&usqp=mq331AQIKAGwASCAAgM%3D#amp_tf=From %1%24s&aoh=16305003208246&csi=1&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&share=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.liverpoolecho.co.uk%2Fsport%2Ffootball%2Ftransfer-news%2Feverton-transfer-james-kean-benitez-21451219 £200k plus weekly wages now! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted September 1, 2021 Report Share Posted September 1, 2021 2 hours ago, Bailey said: "James Rodriguez, Moise Kean, Fabian Delph and how Rafa Benitez transfer plans were restricted on deadline day - Liverpool Echo" https://www-liverpoolecho-co-uk.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/everton-transfer-james-kean-benitez-21451219.amp?amp_gsa=1&_js_v=a6&usqp=mq331AQIKAGwASCAAgM%3D#amp_tf=From %1%24s&aoh=16305003208246&csi=1&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&share=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.liverpoolecho.co.uk%2Fsport%2Ffootball%2Ftransfer-news%2Feverton-transfer-james-kean-benitez-21451219 £200k plus weekly wages now! Bailey can’t open that getting the dreaded 404 issue, what’s with 200k weekly wages. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted September 1, 2021 Report Share Posted September 1, 2021 12 minutes ago, Palfy said: Bailey can’t open that getting the dreaded 404 issue, what’s with 200k weekly wages. https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/everton-transfer-james-kean-benitez-21451219 Palfy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plaidharper Posted September 1, 2021 Report Share Posted September 1, 2021 13 minutes ago, Palfy said: Bailey can’t open that getting the dreaded 404 issue, what’s with 200k weekly wages. Think this is the link Bailey was trying to post: https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/everton-transfer-james-kean-benitez-21451219 Palfy and Bailey 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plaidharper Posted September 1, 2021 Report Share Posted September 1, 2021 Just now, MikeO said: https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/everton-transfer-james-kean-benitez-21451219 haha opps Bailey and MikeO 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted September 1, 2021 Report Share Posted September 1, 2021 5 minutes ago, plaidharper said: haha opps Great minds Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted September 1, 2021 Report Share Posted September 1, 2021 22 minutes ago, MikeO said: https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/everton-transfer-james-kean-benitez-21451219 Thank you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted September 1, 2021 Report Share Posted September 1, 2021 23 minutes ago, plaidharper said: Think this is the link Bailey was trying to post: https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/everton-transfer-james-kean-benitez-21451219 And thank you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted September 1, 2021 Report Share Posted September 1, 2021 1 hour ago, MikeO said: https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/everton-transfer-james-kean-benitez-21451219 1 hour ago, plaidharper said: Think this is the link Bailey was trying to post: https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/everton-transfer-james-kean-benitez-21451219 Thanks guys! Had to do a quick copy and paste job on my phone and it clearly didn't work! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuffRob Posted September 1, 2021 Report Share Posted September 1, 2021 We are where we are now - and it is up to everybody on the clubs payroll to do their very best for the club. Meaning James to play the best he can under the instruction and system of his manager and his manager to try and get the best system possible to work with the tools he has available to him, which now looks like it will included James. James has not been a flop, he has been decent to excellent when he has been on the pitch, over a whole season he has been an OK signing, especially in this first year in the Prem. The problem with him is that he as not been consistently OK - he has ranged from MotM performances to being a passenger/liability or simply just not available. Some people focus on his MotM performances and some on his passenger performances. He splits opinion and nobodies opinion is really wrong because on any given day one - he can boss a game or deliver the moment of quality or it can pass right by him. Benitez job now is going to be trying to get James on the pitch in games where he thinks he can get his MotM performances and leave him out of the games where he sees a risk of the game passing him by. Trouble this is very very hard to do, especially in the Premiership - for any manager. I see James being used as an impact sub, when something is needed in the last quarter of the game and maybe when others legs are a little bit tired and the running and pressing has slowed down a little. If you start James regular I am pretty sure Premiership teams would target him as a 'soft belly' of our team. But no point in them setting up to do that if he doesn't start. dunlopp9987, Bailey and chicagoblue 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chicagoblue Posted September 1, 2021 Report Share Posted September 1, 2021 Agree with Rob. He'll be effective in certain matches for 20 minutes when we're looking to break down a team and get a goal. Question will be if he can get/stay fit to perform that role and if he's willing to do that job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted September 1, 2021 Report Share Posted September 1, 2021 Am I missing go something? Has someone saw him out with a telly tubby belly or something haha! He is hiding those pics on his Instagram I can tell you haha! He must be cat fishing people StevO 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted September 1, 2021 Report Share Posted September 1, 2021 3 hours ago, Shukes said: Am I missing go something? Has someone saw him out with a telly tubby belly or something haha! He is hiding those pics on his Instagram I can tell you haha! He must be cat fishing people I’ve heard he’s really Tinky Winky or was it he’s got a Tinky Winky Shukes 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted September 5, 2021 Report Share Posted September 5, 2021 https://princerupertstower.com/2021/09/05/everton-james-rodriguez-basaksehir-loan/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted September 5, 2021 Report Share Posted September 5, 2021 1 hour ago, duncanmckenzieismagic said: https://princerupertstower.com/2021/09/05/everton-james-rodriguez-basaksehir-loan/ If that was to happen we would be paying about a 155k of his wages each week, Ancelotti and Brand’s truly messed up with this signing in so many ways. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted September 5, 2021 Report Share Posted September 5, 2021 5 minutes ago, Palfy said: If that was to happen we would be paying about a 155k of his wages each week, Ancelotti and Brand’s truly messed up with this signing in so many ways. Where did you get that from? Is that in the article? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post duncanmckenzieismagic Posted September 5, 2021 Popular Post Report Share Posted September 5, 2021 7 minutes ago, Palfy said: If that was to happen we would be paying about a 155k of his wages each week, Ancelotti and Brand’s truly messed up with this signing in so many ways. I still think l it was a great signing, just a pity Rafa can’t find a way to accommodate him MikeO, Sibdane, Romey 1878 and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted September 5, 2021 Report Share Posted September 5, 2021 9 minutes ago, Shukes said: Where did you get that from? Is that in the article? Do you think they would pay his wages in full Porto only wanted to pay 25%, we pay him so much money he’s become un-loanable and un-sellable. What will happen is we will give him his 200+k a week he will hardly play and we won’t be offering him the 3rd year extension of his contract. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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