Bailey Posted December 26, 2020 Report Share Posted December 26, 2020 I think James playing in the Siggy role would create more defensive pressure on us. Siggy does get through a fair amount of graft and if you took that out of the side, you have 4 midfield / forwards upfield with only 2 sitting. I then think you stifle Doucoure a bit more. I think the front 3 has enough quality to do the damage on their own that they don't need to add another player into the mix. Then if you have 3 in midfield they can cover each other and for the two wide men if they get caught forward. I just think we have to be a bit more alive to the fact that teams will target that side. After all if they are attacking down our right, it means there is more space for James to exploit when we win the ball. Think of it like bait! markjazzbassist and StevO 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted December 26, 2020 Report Share Posted December 26, 2020 26 minutes ago, Bailey said: I think James playing in the Siggy role would create more defensive pressure on us. Siggy does get through a fair amount of graft and if you took that out of the side, you have 4 midfield / forwards upfield with only 2 sitting. I then think you stifle Doucoure a bit more. I think the front 3 has enough quality to do the damage on their own that they don't need to add another player into the mix. Then if you have 3 in midfield they can cover each other and for the two wide men if they get caught forward. I just think we have to be a bit more alive to the fact that teams will target that side. After all if they are attacking down our right, it means there is more space for James to exploit when we win the ball. Think of it like bait! If you have a very good 10 who doesn’t follow to far back you force the team you are playing against to leave a player or players to hold and cover their position, but not so much out wide a full back would be comfortably to pass a wide player and help double up on the opposite full back, we’ve witnessed that with James and it’s cost us, but midfielders are less likely to leave opposition midfielders unmarked in a high central position, especially when that midfielder as the ability of James. Which in turn helps the 2 holding midfielders and the 2 central defenders by restricting the opposition’s midfield getting forward in mass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted December 26, 2020 Report Share Posted December 26, 2020 2 hours ago, Palfy said: If you have a very good 10 who doesn’t follow to far back you force the team you are playing against to leave a player or players to hold and cover their position, but not so much out wide a full back would be comfortably to pass a wide player and help double up on the opposite full back, we’ve witnessed that with James and it’s cost us, but midfielders are less likely to leave opposition midfielders unmarked in a high central position, especially when that midfielder as the ability of James. Which in turn helps the 2 holding midfielders and the 2 central defenders by restricting the opposition’s midfield getting forward in mass. Maybe, maybe not. I think it depends who you play against. Most sides have that defensive player anyway so you won't gain any real tactical advantage. I agree with you that it has caused us a few defensive problems, but there were other factors in those problems. We have also created plenty of chances by winning the ball and then feeding James in space because the full back isnt in position. Maybe it should be horses for courses! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted December 26, 2020 Report Share Posted December 26, 2020 4 hours ago, Bailey said: Maybe, maybe not. I think it depends who you play against. Most sides have that defensive player anyway so you won't gain any real tactical advantage. This is why I prefer him playing off the right. When he sees the space inside he can come in and make the most of it. He’s quick enough to do something brilliant before the full back has passed him over to the midfield, and if the full back sticks with him it leaves plenty of space out wide for our full back to get in there. markjazzbassist and Bailey 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted December 30, 2020 Report Share Posted December 30, 2020 i'm really starting to wonder about this injury, he's missed 4 matches (this will be his 5th) and has been out for a month. anyone know if he is training? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted December 30, 2020 Report Share Posted December 30, 2020 23 minutes ago, markjazzbassist said: i'm really starting to wonder about this injury, he's missed 4 matches (this will be his 5th) and has been out for a month. anyone know if he is training? Carlo said he was in individual training before the City game, don't know if he's said he's joined the team in today's press conference. markjazzbassist 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted December 30, 2020 Report Share Posted December 30, 2020 We didn’t expect him to be fit for every game, just got to get the most out of him when he is fit again. Hopefully makes a big difference when he’s back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted December 30, 2020 Report Share Posted December 30, 2020 19 minutes ago, StevO said: We didn’t expect him to be fit for every game, just got to get the most out of him when he is fit again. Hopefully makes a big difference when he’s back. yes i agree. but the injury was never given a timetable of when he would be back, we just hear each week "he's out" with no severity or update on what this "calf injury" (that's all we've been told) is. as romey stated, he is doing individual sessions. Carlo just said Allan is doing individual sessions and is expected back end of january. so i'm just wondering what is the ETA of james. i don't think it's nefarious, just wondering when he will be back! i love the guy and want to see a football at his feet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted January 5, 2021 Report Share Posted January 5, 2021 Romey 1878, StevO and Zoo 2.0 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted January 9, 2021 Report Share Posted January 9, 2021 Ancelotti confirms that James is in poor form and hopes he might regain some form against Rotherham. For me that’s a very worrying statement it brings in to doubt his desire to play in this country, he started off bright in his first 3-4 games, and then fell off a cliff performance wise. Having watched all his games I have to say he doesn’t look happy he doesn’t look like a player who wants to be here, this is a tough league in a tough environment let’s be honest Liverpool isn’t Madrid, I genuinely feel this is a head and heart thing and not an ability issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted January 9, 2021 Report Share Posted January 9, 2021 1 hour ago, Palfy said: Ancelotti confirms that James is in poor form and hopes he might regain some form against Rotherham. For me that’s a very worrying statement it brings in to doubt his desire to play in this country, he started off bright in his first 3-4 games, and then fell off a cliff performance wise. Having watched all his games I have to say he doesn’t look happy he doesn’t look like a player who wants to be here, this is a tough league in a tough environment let’s be honest Liverpool isn’t Madrid, I genuinely feel this is a head and heart thing and not an ability issue. What did he say? I can only find this, which makes no mention of form - Quote “James trained all week with the team and showed a good condition: not at the top but it could help for him to play tomorrow [Saturday] – he is close to the top [peak condition]. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted January 9, 2021 Report Share Posted January 9, 2021 24 minutes ago, Romey 1878 said: What did he say? I can only find this, which makes no mention of form - First football article written by caught offside. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted January 9, 2021 Report Share Posted January 9, 2021 1 hour ago, Palfy said: Ancelotti confirms that James is in poor form and hopes he might regain some form against Rotherham. For me that’s a very worrying statement it brings in to doubt his desire to play in this country, he started off bright in his first 3-4 games, and then fell off a cliff performance wise. Having watched all his games I have to say he doesn’t look happy he doesn’t look like a player who wants to be here, this is a tough league in a tough environment let’s be honest Liverpool isn’t Madrid, I genuinely feel this is a head and heart thing and not an ability issue. Think you’re confusing form with fitness StevO 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted January 9, 2021 Report Share Posted January 9, 2021 Just now, Matt said: Think you’re confusing form with fitness No he was quoted as saying form. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted January 9, 2021 Report Share Posted January 9, 2021 12 minutes ago, Palfy said: First football article written by caught offside. Just read it now. Wouldn't surprise me if it's been mistranslated as form because it does come from a Spanish newspaper, but it is what it is. I don't think he's unhappy here at all. His interview he gave himself says the complete opposite. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted January 9, 2021 Report Share Posted January 9, 2021 20 minutes ago, Palfy said: No he was quoted as saying form. https://www.google.ch/amp/s/www.caughtoffside.com/2021/01/08/carlo-ancelotti-admits-everton-star-is-struggling-with-poor-form/amp/ this? Because it’s not what Carlo said last 90s. Absolutely talking about fitness. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted January 9, 2021 Report Share Posted January 9, 2021 7 minutes ago, Romey 1878 said: Just read it now. Wouldn't surprise me if it's been mistranslated as form because it does come from a Spanish newspaper, but it is what it is. I don't think he's unhappy here at all. His interview he gave himself says the complete opposite. It’s not even mistranslation, it’s Marca making things up. nutmegwolf203 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted January 9, 2021 Report Share Posted January 9, 2021 5 minutes ago, Romey 1878 said: Just read it now. Wouldn't surprise me if it's been mistranslated as form because it does come from a Spanish newspaper, but it is what it is. I don't think he's unhappy here at all. His interview he gave himself says the complete opposite. Must be, you can't say he's out of form when he's only played 25 minutes in the last month. markjazzbassist, Matt, Romey 1878 and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted January 9, 2021 Report Share Posted January 9, 2021 1 minute ago, Romey 1878 said: Just read it now. Wouldn't surprise me if it's been mistranslated as form because it does come from a Spanish newspaper, but it is what it is. I don't think he's unhappy here at all. His interview he gave himself says the complete opposite. like you said in the Iwobi thread talk is nice but actions are what actually counts. I wouldn’t blame him for feeling unhappy it’s shit times at the moment, but I don’t see a happy player out there at the moment in his football, a dip in form maybe and he comes out of it, but my gut feeling is it’s more than that by his demeanour but of course that’s my opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted January 9, 2021 Report Share Posted January 9, 2021 32 minutes ago, MikeO said: Must be, you can't say he's out of form when he's only played 25 minutes in the last month. Exactly, plus what Carlo actually said Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted January 9, 2021 Report Share Posted January 9, 2021 47 minutes ago, Matt said: It’s not even mistranslation, it’s Marca making things up. I stand corrected. In french “en forme” means feeling well, so could well just be mistranslation (assuming Spanish is similar) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Hafnia Posted January 9, 2021 Popular Post Report Share Posted January 9, 2021 I don't see anything in James as a person to suggest he's anything other than someone who just wants to play football. Took a pay cut, players love him, professional demeanor. Positive person who like Ancellotti embraces new starts. markjazzbassist, Romey 1878, StevO and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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markjazzbassist Posted January 9, 2021 Report Share Posted January 9, 2021 2 wonderful balls for goals (1 disallowed). that's what we wanted when we bought him. glad to see he's back DavisJD 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted January 9, 2021 Report Share Posted January 9, 2021 Looked very frustrated for most of the game (with the teams and his own performance) but then stepped up and showed his quality with that ball for Doucoure. And that's what he's out there to do and will keep showing it the more fitness he gets back. pete0, nutmegwolf203, StevO and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted January 9, 2021 Report Share Posted January 9, 2021 14 minutes ago, Romey 1878 said: Looked very frustrated for most of the game (with the teams and his own performance) but then stepped up and showed his quality with that ball for Doucoure. And that's what he's out there to do and will keep showing it the more fitness he gets back. Yeah. Didn’t have a great game but tried and only needed 2 opportunities to set up what should’ve been 2 goals. Rough game for him and just coming back from injury, could’ve been better but still changed the game. markjazzbassist, Romey 1878 and StevO 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted January 9, 2021 Report Share Posted January 9, 2021 I thought we looked much better in midfield when he went off, we were balanced and stronger, Rotherham’s threat was minimal when he was taken off and as our midfield worked harder and protected the defence allowing them to have an impact further up field, for me he has to work harder for the team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Blue Posted January 10, 2021 Report Share Posted January 10, 2021 He is not match fit, and out of form, he has been out a while, then first match back is against a team that is playing in its own "Cup Final" who gave him no time or space. It meant we were effectively a man down in midfield. He just needs game time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted January 11, 2021 Report Share Posted January 11, 2021 It seemed to me that when they found James in a bit of space he made things happen. It didn’t always come off. But it’s pretty clear, give him the ball and we create chances. We need him on the pitch and we need to give him the ball, let him do the rest. Romey 1878, Bailey and markjazzbassist 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted January 11, 2021 Report Share Posted January 11, 2021 3 minutes ago, StevO said: It seemed to me that when they found James in a bit of space he made things happen. It didn’t always come off. But it’s pretty clear, give him the ball and we create chances. We need him on the pitch and we need to give him the ball, let him do the rest. That is what I saw too. When he got the ball, he was looking to do something. I'm not convinced anyone else did after the first 10 minutes. markjazzbassist and StevO 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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