markjazzbassist Posted September 26, 2020 Report Share Posted September 26, 2020 If we want European football we have to beat the teams below us. 3 points a must here. They played well against United so we must will need goals. Same lineup. Pickford Coleman Keane Mina Digne Allan Doucoure James Gomes Richarlison DCL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aidan Posted September 26, 2020 Report Share Posted September 26, 2020 They looked really good against united and it will be another difficult game and yet another big test for us. In fact they completely outplayed united and deserved 3 points. Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cisk Posted September 26, 2020 Report Share Posted September 26, 2020 Theres something telling me we need to adjust for this game - I'm against changing for change sake but let's see if we can throw a surprise here n there, maybe push 3 up top for this one. I think BHA will load the wide areas as we are currently set up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Btay Posted September 26, 2020 Report Share Posted September 26, 2020 They have looked good all season. Ball on the deck, Trossard is a very good player and Maupay uptop will hit the net if given the chance. We need to be clinical with set pieces as we should be the bigger side. Could be a cracking game. Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted September 27, 2020 Report Share Posted September 27, 2020 They absolutely destroyed United, just hope they have the same level of finishing against us Btay 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted September 27, 2020 Report Share Posted September 27, 2020 1 hour ago, Matt said: They absolutely destroyed United, just hope they have the same level of finishing against us Never a good time to play newly promoted/lower half sides .... They are usually at full strength injury wise and sharpness wise. The empty stadiums is a bit of a leveller too. Matt and Btay 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted September 27, 2020 Author Report Share Posted September 27, 2020 3 hours ago, Matt said: They absolutely destroyed United, just hope they have the same level of finishing against us United are terrible we will destroy them too. Class of 92 left years ago, they are a mid table side. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barryj Posted September 27, 2020 Report Share Posted September 27, 2020 36 minutes ago, markjazzbassist said: United are terrible we will destroy them too. Class of 92 left years ago, they are a mid table side. Utd haven’t played well but don’t be naive in thinking they’re terrible! Brighton have been superb in the games I’ve seen them and I think this will be our toughest test to date. They hit the woodwork 5 times against Utd outplayed them and gave away a stupid pen in Fergie time. Matt and Btay 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted September 27, 2020 Author Report Share Posted September 27, 2020 3 minutes ago, barryj said: Utd haven’t played well but don’t be naive in thinking they’re terrible! Brighton have been superb in the games I’ve seen them and I think this will be our toughest test to date. They hit the woodwork 5 times against Utd outplayed them and gave away a stupid pen in Fergie time. I don’t rate ole I don’t rate any of them. We should beat them twice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted September 27, 2020 Report Share Posted September 27, 2020 This will be our toughest test to date, Brighton are well drilled in there setup they aren’t full big names yet should have punished Utd who are, I wouldn’t for one minute dismiss them because you believe Utd are poor. Brighton are a team who can play a bit this is going to be a hard one to call. Btay and London Blue 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted September 27, 2020 Report Share Posted September 27, 2020 7 hours ago, Palfy said: This will be our toughest test to date, Brighton are well drilled in there setup they aren’t full big names yet should have punished Utd who are, I wouldn’t for one minute dismiss them because you believe Utd are poor. Brighton are a team who can play a bit this is going to be a hard one to call. I agree with this. It will be a very different test to Palace in that Palace were a tough unit to break down and threatened to get at us on the counter whereas Brighton will go toe to toe with us. We will get chances but I expect them to get them too. Whoever finishes their chances wins the game... like most games! markjazzbassist 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aidan Posted September 27, 2020 Report Share Posted September 27, 2020 4 minutes ago, Bailey said: I agree with this. It will be a very different test to Palace in that Palace were a tough unit to break down and threatened to get at us on the counter whereas Brighton will go toe to toe with us. We will get chances but I expect them to get them too. Whoever finishes their chances wins the game... like most games! We haven't got a chance then with dom missing all those sitters! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted September 27, 2020 Report Share Posted September 27, 2020 3 minutes ago, Aidan said: We haven't got a chance then with dom missing all those sitters! You said it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barryj Posted September 27, 2020 Report Share Posted September 27, 2020 10 hours ago, markjazzbassist said: I don’t rate ole I don’t rate any of them. We should beat them twice. Don’t rate any of them? I’ve the most blue tinted glasses but you can’t say they don’t have quality. Finished top four last season and some great players. I might be wrong but I think we’ve only done the league double over them once in about 30 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted September 28, 2020 Author Report Share Posted September 28, 2020 2 hours ago, barryj said: Don’t rate any of them? I’ve the most blue tinted glasses but you can’t say they don’t have quality. Finished top four last season and some great players. I might be wrong but I think we’ve only done the league double over them once in about 30 years. i think there is an inherent bias to man united in england, i get it, they are the biggest club with the most honors, but because of that they are always given the benefit of the doubt and extra hype. being that i'm american and newer to football (2006) i don't have that bias because they won all that stuff before i started to seriously follow the league. every year Man U is considered a title contender, whether or not they are good. they are not good this year. they have a bunch of young players and overrated players (pogba, martial, their whole backline bar wan-bissaka) and honestly i just don't think Ole is a good manager. they continue to get a lot of calls their way, and lots of penalties. which helps them. but i don't think they are a good football side. maybe i'm ignorant but i don't have the respect you all have with them. that's why for me it should be 2 wins. we can beat spurs away why not united? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Btay Posted September 28, 2020 Popular Post Report Share Posted September 28, 2020 Mark, my man, confidence becomes arrogance very quickly. If we take this attitude as a club we will lose more than we win. Whilst they may not be the powerhouse the once were - they still pose a threat with some world class players. Brighton - decent team, by no means is this a turn up and get 3 points. We will need to win the midfield here and earn the right. I think id actually like to see Gomes against West Ham and Bernard come into the more advanced central position in midfield. He has created loads in the cup games and we could use his creativity here. Good to have some options however. nutmegwolf203, Matt, Wiggytop and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Btay Posted September 28, 2020 Report Share Posted September 28, 2020 11 hours ago, Palfy said: This will be our toughest test to date, Brighton are well drilled in there setup they aren’t full big names yet should have punished Utd who are, I wouldn’t for one minute dismiss them because you believe Utd are poor. Brighton are a team who can play a bit this is going to be a hard one to call. The likes of City, Spurs & United are not upto speed while there's some "lower" teams showing some real ability and desire to play good football. Theres going to be some points dropped by teams chasing that top 6 spot this year and if we can keep winning while they struggle, it could be the difference end of season. Wiggytop 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted September 28, 2020 Author Report Share Posted September 28, 2020 23 minutes ago, Btay said: Mark, my man, confidence becomes arrogance very quickly. If we take this attitude as a club we will lose more than we win. Whilst they may not be the powerhouse the once were - they still pose a threat with some world class players. Brighton - decent team, by no means is this a turn up and get 3 points. We will need to win the midfield here and earn the right. I think id actually like to see Gomes against West Ham and Bernard come into the more advanced central position in midfield. He has created loads in the cup games and we could use his creativity here. Good to have some options however. totally in agreement, i don't think it's a given 3 points, i'm just saying we should go into any match with united with no fear and an expectation that 3 points is there for the taking if we play our game. whereas previous years/regimes it seemed we went in praying for a draw. with a side like liverpool i'm fine with getting a draw, you can't win them all, and honestly that's a good result. but united i don't class in the same league as the shite. Btay 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted September 28, 2020 Report Share Posted September 28, 2020 2 hours ago, markjazzbassist said: i think there is an inherent bias to man united in england, i get it, they are the biggest club with the most honors, but because of that they are always given the benefit of the doubt and extra hype. being that i'm american and newer to football (2006) i don't have that bias because they won all that stuff before i started to seriously follow the league. every year Man U is considered a title contender, whether or not they are good. they are not good this year. they have a bunch of young players and overrated players (pogba, martial, their whole backline bar wan-bissaka) and honestly i just don't think Ole is a good manager. they continue to get a lot of calls their way, and lots of penalties. which helps them. but i don't think they are a good football side. maybe i'm ignorant but i don't have the respect you all have with them. that's why for me it should be 2 wins. we can beat spurs away why not united? Man Utd have through the Fergie years been the most hated team in the league by football supporters in this country, having said that opposition supporters have respect for what they have achieved in the game if only through gritted teeth. They are not the force they were granted but they still have the players to beat any team in the league and win trophies, not to be dismissed or disrespected as has beens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted September 28, 2020 Report Share Posted September 28, 2020 I know this probably isn't the thread but the problem United have is balance. The centre backs aren't a great pair, the midfield now has too many options that will want to start (Pogba, Fernandes, VDB, McTominay, Matic, Fred) and up front they have talented players that aren't exactly naturals in their position (yet). I'm unconvinced by Martial but he can be an exquisite finisher, Rashford can score a rocket or miss a sitter but isn't a winger or a sole striker, Greenwood is extremely talented but he also isn't a winger and probably isn't a single striker yet either. They might even be better off starting with Ighalo and playing the other two off him. I really expected them to come out firing this season given how well they finished in the league but it looks like they have a bit of a hangover from the Europa League loss and the misdemeanors this summer from McGuire and Greenwood. As for Ole, I think he is probably better than I expected. At first he was getting lots of plaudits but the fall was coming as it was clear they were only a counter attacking team and offered little else. He then showed that he could get the right players in with Fernandes being an instant hit and adding the creativity they needed to beat the plucky clubs at the bottom of the league. I thought at the end of last season he started to show that he was getting a bit too clever for himself, especially with that team he put out in the FA Cup semi against Chelsea. Whatever you think of them, they are certainly a team that can beat anyone in this league, the question like it is with most sides that aren't Liverpool, is whether they can do it consistently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlbanyNYToffee Posted October 1, 2020 Report Share Posted October 1, 2020 Generally a big fan of keeping the formation/shape the same throughout a season. We don't have a like for like with Richy so I'm struggling here. Could be James, Iwobi or Bernard. Ultimately went for James. Since he played midweek we could save some of his legs and reduce his need to track back. Assumed Allan is out as well. Delph best solution here despite my dislike - to his credit he played very well against West Ham. Pickford Coleman Mina Keane Digne Iwobi Delph Doucoure Gomes James DCL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted October 1, 2020 Report Share Posted October 1, 2020 14 minutes ago, AlbanyNYToffee said: Generally a big fan of keeping the formation/shape the same throughout a season. We don't have a like for like with Richy so I'm struggling here. Could be James, Iwobi or Bernard. Ultimately went for James. Since he played midweek we could save some of his legs and reduce his need to track back. Assumed Allan is out as well. Delph best solution here despite my dislike - to his credit he played very well against West Ham. Pickford Coleman Mina Keane Digne Iwobi Delph Doucoure Gomes James DCL I’d rather that be a 4231 / 4141 with Bernard for Iwobi, but agree. Delph, saying through gritted teeth, deserves the start after the last game since Allan is probably out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted October 1, 2020 Report Share Posted October 1, 2020 I wouldn't rule Richie out but I highly doubt Allan will be fit. Zoo 2.0 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finn balor Posted October 1, 2020 Report Share Posted October 1, 2020 Just a win please. Alan I don’t expect to play but we have other options. Can’t wait to watch us again Gwlad 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted October 1, 2020 Report Share Posted October 1, 2020 2 hours ago, Romey 1878 said: I wouldn't rule Richie out but I highly doubt Allan will be fit. I’d rather see him come off the bench than start Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete0 Posted October 1, 2020 Report Share Posted October 1, 2020 Pickford Coleman Mina Keane Digne Delph James Doucoure Gomes Iwobi DCL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiggytop Posted October 1, 2020 Report Share Posted October 1, 2020 Can Delph play two consecutive games in 3 days? I was pleasantly surprised with him last night, maybe he’s seen the standard we’re at and what he needs to do to get a game, bloody hope so after last seasons shit shows he gave. Romey 1878 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted October 1, 2020 Report Share Posted October 1, 2020 55 minutes ago, Wiggytop said: Can Delph play two consecutive games in 3 days? I was pleasantly surprised with him last night, maybe he’s seen the standard we’re at and what he needs to do to get a game, bloody hope so after last seasons shit shows he gave. He had much more of a Barry role; just fill in the gaps and put your foot in when needed. He had no pressure at all which meant he made few mistakes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gwlad Posted October 1, 2020 Report Share Posted October 1, 2020 1 hour ago, Wiggytop said: Can Delph play two consecutive games in 3 days? I was pleasantly surprised with him last night, maybe he’s seen the standard we’re at and what he needs to do to get a game, bloody hope so after last seasons shit shows he gave. Delph has just realised that actually Everton FC are worth playing for. London Blue and markjazzbassist 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aidan Posted October 1, 2020 Report Share Posted October 1, 2020 Stick Lucas Digne in the Allan role, and when DCL gets injured stick him up front! In fact stick him in goal cos pickers is shite! A full 11 of him wouldnt be bad would it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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