Palfy Posted February 10, 2018 Report Share Posted February 10, 2018 I didn't get a chance to see it out tonight so will have to wait till tomorrow, but from what I've read not as convincing as score suggests or have I got the wrong end of the stick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted February 10, 2018 Author Report Share Posted February 10, 2018 missed the second half i fell asleep. glad we won. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted February 10, 2018 Report Share Posted February 10, 2018 6 minutes ago, Palfy said: I didn't get a chance to see it out tonight so will have to wait till tomorrow, but from what I've read not as convincing as score suggests or have I got the wrong end of the stick. We had the ball in their box more than the last ten matches combined. They had two or three chances, but we mostly kept them quiet. Thoroughly deserved win. Gana had a great effort. Sigfy had another good effort. There were a few very good chances that we should have done better with, but overall it was much improved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted February 10, 2018 Report Share Posted February 10, 2018 1 hour ago, Palfy said: Sorry care to expand Crowd reaction when he was replaced by Schneiderlin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post MikeO Posted February 10, 2018 Popular Post Report Share Posted February 10, 2018 20 minutes ago, pete0 said: On today's performance? He was the worst player on the park yet again. He's got no football brain at all, at one point a Palace player made 10 yards on him before he realised he was in a good position to go close and receive the ball. All he does is stifle us on the ball. You need to get a better informed guide dog Pete. London Blue, Hafnia, Quinn31 and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quinn31 Posted February 10, 2018 Report Share Posted February 10, 2018 Just now, MikeO said: You need to get a better informed guide dog Pete. I bet Pete also thinks Jags was really poor today - just teasing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcirony Posted February 10, 2018 Report Share Posted February 10, 2018 31 minutes ago, Paddock said: How many free fucking headers did we give them in our box today. Another day and Benteke has a hat trick. Haha. I know what you mean but I don't think that day will ever come for Benteke, anywhere... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted February 10, 2018 Report Share Posted February 10, 2018 16 minutes ago, MikeO said: Crowd reaction when he was replaced by Schneiderlin. Not seen it yet but I've heard about it, I'll have to let my mate Joey know.😁 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete0 Posted February 10, 2018 Report Share Posted February 10, 2018 27 minutes ago, MikeO said: You need to get a better informed guide dog Pete. 20-30 minutes mark he was infuriating. I'd swap him in a heartbeat for their number 4 (just Googled his name, Milivojević). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plaidharper Posted February 10, 2018 Report Share Posted February 10, 2018 1 hour ago, pete0 said: On today's performance? He was the worst player on the park yet again. He's got no football brain at all, at one point a Palace player made 10 yards on him before he realised he was in a good position to go close and receive the ball. All he does is stifle us on the ball. Our CBs were SO bad. No chance whatsoever that they do not get the lowest ratings today. Gana was miles ahead of them. Mangala was dreadful. Turning focus to the positives, Daives really put in a shift today. So glad he got his goal. Today’s midfield 3 worked and should be the 3 from here out. (Sam will never play Beni and Morgan isn’t arsed) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete0 Posted February 10, 2018 Report Share Posted February 10, 2018 35 minutes ago, plaidharper said: Our CBs were SO bad. No chance whatsoever that they do not get the lowest ratings today. Gana was miles ahead of them. Mangala was dreadful. Turning focus to the positives, Daives really put in a shift today. So glad he got his goal. Today’s midfield 3 worked and should be the 3 from here out. (Sam will never play Beni and Morgan isn’t arsed) Gana isn'ttt good enough, and both aren't arsed enough. If I had to choose between the two I'd play Schneiderlin, and sub him for Beni if he shits out of anything. It's a shame we've stifled his progress. Him and Barry would have been my preferred two in the middle, ideally with a decent replacement for Barry blooded in too. nyblue23 and Matt 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiggytop Posted February 10, 2018 Report Share Posted February 10, 2018 3 minutes ago, pete0 said: Gana isn'ttt good enough, and both aren't arsed enough. If I had to choose between the two I'd play Schneiderlin, and sub him for Beni if he shits out of anything. Really? You'd be using a sub within the first 5 mins of every game on that basis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete0 Posted February 10, 2018 Report Share Posted February 10, 2018 7 minutes ago, Wiggytop said: Really? You'd be using a sub within the first 5 mins of every game on that basis Let him get booed off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nogs Posted February 10, 2018 Report Share Posted February 10, 2018 Currently down under so 3pm games are some ungodly hour here... Delighted to wake up to a very important win. Pretty glaringly obvious what our best team/formation is now, fully expect changes at Watford... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nogs Posted February 10, 2018 Report Share Posted February 10, 2018 49 minutes ago, pete0 said: Gana isn'tttt good enough, and both aren't arsed enough. If I had to choose between the two I'd play Schneiderlin, and sub him for Beni if he shits out of anything. It's a shame we've stifled his progress. Him and Barry would have been my preferred two in the middle, ideally with a decent replacement for Barry blooded in too. Results suggest choosing Schneiderlin over Gana would be madness. Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Btay Posted February 10, 2018 Report Share Posted February 10, 2018 1 hour ago, nogs said: Currently down under so 3pm games are some ungodly hour here... Delighted to wake up to a very important win. Pretty glaringly obvious what our best team/formation is now, fully expect changes at Watford... Where abouts are you mate? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bailey Posted February 11, 2018 Popular Post Report Share Posted February 11, 2018 I have managed to watch the 90 minutes back again. A few things I noticed: 1. I think Siggy playing left offers the team a much better balance than anyone else on that side. He spends most of his time inside, like Pienaar did, finding little pockets of space and even trying to get in behind. Walcott on the other side does the same so they dovetail really well. In respect of Siggy, by coming inside the opposition fullback doesnt know whether to follow him, the CM's dont know when to drop back and the CBs dont know when to push up. You can see that from his goal, and the shot in the first half. He drifts in, no-one follows and he gets the shot off. If he plays no 10 he is easier to mark IMO. The average position map is really interesting: 18 = Siggy, 19 Niasse and the 2 you can see is Davies. 2. Controversially bar a couple of big fuck ups, I didnt think Mangala was that bad, in fact I thought he got through a lot more important work than Keane. Mangala was more aggressive, he showed great recovery speed and even for one of his fuck ups, he did a great job of covering Cuco who got badly sucked in, only to under hit the back pass (which Pickford should have knocked into touch). The second fuck up which probably resulted in their second best chance was when he was given a nudge just before he went to clear and if you have ever played football you know how stupid that can make you look. He should have just shovelled it into touch making sure that any nudge didnt stop him from clearing the ball but unfortunately its one of those things. Ironically their best chance came just after he came off and Williams was in no mans land and Cuco lost his header. Generally I thought Williams was a bit all over the place when he came on. 3. Keane still concerns me as his use of the ball is bang average. Like Mangala he gave away a couple of really sloppy balls but the difference was that he wasnt under as much pressure when he did it, in fact once he wasnt under any. He didnt have anyone tricky to play up against, just big lads so he should have had his perfect game. For the Benteke chance he gets dragged into the middle of the pitch but is nowhere near making a challenge and that left Kenny v Benteke where there is only one winner. To his credit the next time that happened, he did get his toe in, but if he is going to follow a striker in he has to make a challenge. 4. Gueye showed that once again he is a far superior player without Schneiderlin sat alongside him. Lots more forward passes combined with simple layoffs to and from Rooney or Davies for them to earn their wages. 5. It was a shame to see Coleman go off but that was as good of a performance from Kenny as I have seen for a few weeks. He played a big part in the 2nd goal, racing forward, latching onto the loose ball and putting the original ball into the box. For the third goal, he made a great overlapping run to allow Walcott more time and space to put the ball in and then got the rub of the green as the ball rebounded into the space he had just run into. If he doesnt make that run, the move breaks down to nothing. 6. Rooney and Davies ran the show but in very different ways. Rooney was patrolling, making sure Gana was in check and organising from deep, picking the ball up and getting us going forward whereas Davies was buzzing around everywhere. Linking the play, getting in behind, putting challenges in etc. It was Davies buzzing around that got him the goal. 7. Walcott... Different class. I honestly didn't think he would have this type of impact. He really is class, first touch, technique, dribbling, finishing. He just causes problems and all the time we are on the front foot he is big threat and outlet. Even defensively he is working really hard to help his full back which is something he didn't have to do at Arsenal. He must be staking his claim to be England's most in form winger? Matt, Gwlad, nyblue23 and 7 others 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted February 11, 2018 Report Share Posted February 11, 2018 Bailey that’s one hell of a review. You pop your card into Sams office. Picked up on the finer points of football that many miss. Just a note on Niasses goals as well. Love his effort, but he looks to the far post, the ball hots him on the side of the head and goes I to the bear post. Either a reward for hard work... or if he meant that, then move over Messi, Ronaldo and the rest, that’s a world class dummy haha! Matt and Bailey 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted February 11, 2018 Report Share Posted February 11, 2018 Great piece of work Bailey. Gana indeed needs to be given the license to roam and tackle but needs a mentor. That's all. His criticism are way OTT.... schneiderlein isn'tt a patch on him. Rooney is growing into his deeper role, without doubt. markjazzbassist, Matt and Bailey 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seve Posted February 11, 2018 Report Share Posted February 11, 2018 A bit worrying Sams after match speech, now he can plan for next season with us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlbanyNYToffee Posted February 11, 2018 Report Share Posted February 11, 2018 Great work Bailey. The average position map is absolutely fascinating, thank you for posting. We can argue about Gana and Schneiderlin all day but whichever player you prefer, no one can argue they should be on the field at the same time. If we play anything but a back 4 and one holding mid for the last 11 games Sam is a bigger arse than words can describe. Stop changing shit, put your best 11 out there and may the best team win. Bailey 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiggytop Posted February 11, 2018 Report Share Posted February 11, 2018 Possibly the first game this season that I felt we were going to win from the first few minutes in. We seemed to play the easy pass more often and not putting ourselves in trouble unnecessarily, apart from a couple of occasions, Mangalas under hit back pass being one of them. I felt we played more as a team unit, I even will go as far to say Martina had a good game, grenated he wasn't tested too much. The only player that looked uncomfortable for me was Keane, it took him well in to the second half to win a header, and his distribution was awful, rabbit in headlights springs to mind, he clearly is lacking confidence. Theo drives us forward at every opportunity and with menace, his link up play with both Coleman and Kenny was good and holds well for the future. Niasse ran his ass off, very unorthodox but caused Palace problems all the way through the game. Rooney, Gana and Davies ran the midfield well, probably our best option at the moment, and a good game from Siggy, he seems to be settling in OK now. Pickford was Pickford, solid and gives a feeling of confidence, his distribution was better then in recent weeks. Only dissapointment was not seeing Tosun getting some game time, yesterday was the ideal time to build his confidence after the third goal, we could have dropped Rooney or Davies deeper to play Ganas role at that stage. More of the same at Watford please Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted February 11, 2018 Report Share Posted February 11, 2018 8 hours ago, AlbanyNYToffee said: Great work Bailey. The average position map is absolutely fascinating, thank you for posting. We can argue about Gana and Schneiderlin all day but whichever player you prefer, no one can argue they should be on the field at the same time. If we play anything but a back 4 and one holding mid for the last 11 games Sam is a bigger arse than words can describe. Stop changing shit, put your best 11 out there and may the best team win. The more I look at it the more surprising it is. If I knew the players but hadnt watched the game I would have expected Walcott to be the one ahead of the striker and not Siggy because logically you would expect it to be the pacey finisher not the slower/between the lines player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted February 12, 2018 Report Share Posted February 12, 2018 On 10/02/2018 at 19:02, Paddock said: How many free fucking headers did we give them in our box today. Another day and Benteke has a hat trick. Unlikely, he’s crap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornish Steve Posted February 14, 2018 Report Share Posted February 14, 2018 Incidentally, I noticed that one of the children walking on with the players was a young girl wearing Muslim clothing. It's nice to see that Everton respects the diversity of today's society. MikeO and Matt 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aidan Posted February 14, 2018 Report Share Posted February 14, 2018 Great post @Bailey much appreciated Bailey 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted February 14, 2018 Report Share Posted February 14, 2018 7 hours ago, Aidan said: Great post @Bailey much appreciated Agreed. If I had a choice, I think he should be doing this after every game if he has the time Bailey and Aidan 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted February 15, 2018 Report Share Posted February 15, 2018 On 2/14/2018 at 15:40, Matt said: Agreed. If I had a choice, I think he should be doing this after every game if he has the time Ill do it if you pay me! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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