Matt Posted November 2, 2019 Report Share Posted November 2, 2019 3 hours ago, duncanmckenzieismagic said: Not if he is stuck out on the right wing we’re he was like a fish out of water for that 45 minutes. All it’s going to do is drain any confidence the lad has and put more pressure on him to get the first goal Not sure how that’s worse than being thrown on because we’re losing expecting him to right the wrongs of the game though, right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted November 2, 2019 Report Share Posted November 2, 2019 57 minutes ago, Matt said: Not sure how that’s worse than being thrown on because we’re losing expecting him to right the wrongs of the game though, right? Not for me no. The lad is a CF so that’s where we should be playing him People will look at the amount of minutes he’s had without scoring a goal , they won’t take into account he was playing out of position . The longer that goes on the more the pressure builds He looked totally lost out on the wing and just couldn’t get into the game at all, that’s got to effect his confidence Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted November 2, 2019 Report Share Posted November 2, 2019 5 minutes ago, duncanmckenzieismagic said: Not for me no. The lad is a CF so that’s where we should be playing him People will look at the amount of minutes he’s had without scoring a goal , they won’t take into account he was playing out of position . The longer that goes on the more the pressure builds He looked totally lost out on the wing and just couldn’t get into the game at all, that’s got to effect his confidence He’s looked lost being thrown in as a last hope too. but I get what you mean. We need a change in formation to get him on the pitch more. I think Silva is doing what he did to DCL; get half a season done with then get him starting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted November 2, 2019 Report Share Posted November 2, 2019 He just needs time to adapt like the majority of us expected when he came here. The difficulty is DCL isnt lighting the world on fire up front so that in turn put more pressure on Kean because everyone is looking him as being next in line. The sooner we start playing better and scoring goals the easier the burden will be on him (and others too). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete0 Posted November 2, 2019 Report Share Posted November 2, 2019 If we keep playing 451 with Sigurdssen behind the striker then I hope we don't start Kean. DCL offers a lot more in that system, not that that system is any good! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted November 2, 2019 Report Share Posted November 2, 2019 https://www.90min.com/posts/6489184-marco-silva-s-bizarre-moise-kean-comments-sum-up-his-poor-management-of-everton-football-club Bailey 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted November 2, 2019 Report Share Posted November 2, 2019 https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/everton-boss-marco-silva-opens-17189187 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted November 3, 2019 Report Share Posted November 3, 2019 20 hours ago, duncanmckenzieismagic said: https://www.90min.com/posts/6489184-marco-silva-s-bizarre-moise-kean-comments-sum-up-his-poor-management-of-everton-football-club Almost Allardyce levels of misinformation. Personally, I don't see anything that suggests he is a winger. I think he just looks shoehorned into that position whenever I have seen him play there, albeit on very limited occasions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted November 9, 2019 Report Share Posted November 9, 2019 On 02/11/2019 at 18:30, duncanmckenzieismagic said: https://www.90min.com/posts/6489184-marco-silva-s-bizarre-moise-kean-comments-sum-up-his-poor-management-of-everton-football-club Im not Silva biggest fan, and I’m dying to see more of Kean, but that reads like a kid who plays too much FIFA wrote it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aidan Posted November 9, 2019 Report Share Posted November 9, 2019 I'm starting to feel like Moise Kean is not very good... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted November 9, 2019 Report Share Posted November 9, 2019 I just think Silva is in the position where he needs tried and trusted rather than the unknown. At the same time you want Kean coming into a successful side and not one that is struggling. StevO and Romey 1878 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finn balor Posted November 9, 2019 Report Share Posted November 9, 2019 Thats always going to be the way. There is something going wrong though. The lads not had a chance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aidan Posted November 9, 2019 Report Share Posted November 9, 2019 1 hour ago, Bailey said: I just think Silva is in the position where he needs tried and trusted rather than the unknown. At the same time you want Kean coming into a successful side and not one that is struggling. At the same time I expected if you're going to spend close to your maximum transfer fee on a player he should be playing week in week out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post StevO Posted November 10, 2019 Popular Post Report Share Posted November 10, 2019 He’s been bought as a player with a lot of potential, I don’t think the club expected the finished article to turn up and be ready from day one. Matt, markjazzbassist, MikeO and 4 others 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aidan Posted November 10, 2019 Report Share Posted November 10, 2019 9 hours ago, StevO said: He’s been bought as a player with a lot of potential, I don’t think the club expected the finished article to turn up and be ready from day one. Absolutely not. But imagine if we spent £40m on a striker that could actually start games. Maybe we wouldn't be hovering around the relegation zone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted November 10, 2019 Report Share Posted November 10, 2019 https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/everton-manager-marco-silva-explains-17230761 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted November 10, 2019 Report Share Posted November 10, 2019 54 minutes ago, Aidan said: Absolutely not. But imagine if we spent £40m on a striker that could actually start games. Maybe we wouldn't be hovering around the relegation zone. I think the problem with that would be attracting a £40m striker to Everton. I think the best chance to strengthen might be to pick up Giroud (if his missus will let him) in January, but he doesn’t score goals either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Blue Posted November 10, 2019 Report Share Posted November 10, 2019 1 hour ago, StevO said: I think the problem with that would be attracting a £40m striker to Everton. I think the best chance to strengthen might be to pick up Giroud (if his missus will let him) in January, but he doesn’t score goals either. Just what we need, another striker who cant score! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted November 12, 2019 Report Share Posted November 12, 2019 https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/moise-keane-apologises-marco-silva-17240928 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted November 12, 2019 Report Share Posted November 12, 2019 4 hours ago, Romey 1878 said: https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/moise-keane-apologises-marco-silva-17240928 On his money you’d think he could afford a decent watch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted November 12, 2019 Report Share Posted November 12, 2019 he's young it happens, it's all part of him learning to be a pro and grow up. Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aidan Posted November 12, 2019 Report Share Posted November 12, 2019 If you're getting paid a fortune to do very little you better make sure you're on time otherwise you'll be doing even less. Deserved to be dropped. Age isn't an excuse he's already a professional. Palfy and Shukes 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heath Posted November 13, 2019 Report Share Posted November 13, 2019 Kean late for the team meeting but apologised to all concerned. Unless it becomes a regular thing and he starts to take the piss, then that should be an end to the matter and attention should focus on his development and getting him in the team. StevO, Bailey, Deacs and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete0 Posted November 13, 2019 Report Share Posted November 13, 2019 How many others were late to meetings without the club publishing it? Unless we name and shame every time this should have stayed in house. Only reason I can see this being released is to take pressure off the manager from a very small minority calling for Kean to play. Absolute joke we've got a manager who clearly can't cope with the pressure of the role and even worse has passed the buck onto a kid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted November 13, 2019 Report Share Posted November 13, 2019 5 hours ago, Heath said: Kean late for the team meeting but apologised to all concerned. Unless it becomes a regular thing and he starts to take the piss, then that should be an end to the matter and attention should focus on his development and getting him in the team. It’s already a regular thing isn’t it? Third time and second time dropped from squad. Sounds like me needs a bit of grounding. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Btay Posted November 13, 2019 Report Share Posted November 13, 2019 1 hour ago, pete0 said: How many others were late to meetings without the club publishing it? Unless we name and shame every time this should have stayed in house. Only reason I can see this being released is to take pressure off the manager from a very small minority calling for Kean to play. Absolute joke we've got a manager who clearly can't cope with the pressure of the role and even worse has passed the buck onto a kid. Christ you are really going for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete0 Posted November 13, 2019 Report Share Posted November 13, 2019 43 minutes ago, Btay said: Christ you are really going for it. Sorry for having some sort of morals. The club are right to fine and drop him but they should have kept it in house unless they are gonna name and shame them all, either way would be fair. Even if the manager just said at the conference when asked then it wouldn't be as bad he'd be showing some backbone and discipline, but instead he said it was his decision which would be fine if he'd then kept responsibility. But as soon as he then got some flak it's leaked the player was late. Bit convenient. So he's took responsibility for him not playing and then got stick for it. For me a good manager leaves it there. An absolute shit house leaks it. Do you think Kean is the first player at the club to be late in the last 2 years? Why have the club leaked it other than to protect the manager? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aidan Posted November 13, 2019 Report Share Posted November 13, 2019 might not have been intentionally leaked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted November 13, 2019 Report Share Posted November 13, 2019 7 hours ago, pete0 said: How many others were late to meetings without the club publishing it? Unless we name and shame every time this should have stayed in house. Only reason I can see this being released is to take pressure off the manager from a very small minority calling for Kean to play. Absolute joke we've got a manager who clearly can't cope with the pressure of the role and even worse has passed the buck onto a kid. If he was doing that he’d have said so in the press conference when asked why he wasn’t in the squad. Instead he said “just a decision”. Sibdane, Shukes and Matt 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heath Posted November 13, 2019 Report Share Posted November 13, 2019 7 hours ago, Shukes said: It’s already a regular thing isn’t it? Third time and second time dropped from squad. Sounds like me needs a bit of grounding. Is it? I thought it was two occasions. First one, I would assume he got a ticking off. The second time, he was dropped from the squad; which I would hope is the wake up call he needs and and will sink in with the lad. So are you saying there were three occasions and not two? Or have I misunderstood your reply? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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