Sibdane Posted December 8, 2019 Report Share Posted December 8, 2019 22 minutes ago, Romey 1878 said: https://www.eveningexpress.co.uk/sport/lets-be-realistic-ferguson-rules-out-permanent-everton-role/ Want wasn’t the right word, but he knows it’s not for him. Thankfully. Have to agree. I love his passion for the club, but one win doesn't mean he should be the manager. The squad know a new manager is coming in, and they'll have to fight for their places all over again, which is why I think we saw extra effort today. Happy with the win, but I'm not getting over-excited about. There's still a long way to go. Cornish Steve 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Btay Posted December 8, 2019 Report Share Posted December 8, 2019 11 hours ago, Cisk said: Apparently Niko Kovac (ex Bayern manager) is at Goodison. Whats he doing there? Not sure he`s any good is he? If he brings Coutinho and Pavard with him then I’d be delighted! markjazzbassist 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibdane Posted December 8, 2019 Report Share Posted December 8, 2019 Just now, Btay said: If he brings Coutinho and Pavard with him then I’d be delighted! Pipe dreams are still dreams! markjazzbassist and Btay 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Btay Posted December 8, 2019 Report Share Posted December 8, 2019 Just now, Sibdane said: Pipe dreams are still dreams! Have to aim high mate!! They aren’t getting minutes so who knows Sibdane and markjazzbassist 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badaids Posted December 8, 2019 Report Share Posted December 8, 2019 How about Cuco Martina as player manager? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finn balor Posted December 8, 2019 Report Share Posted December 8, 2019 Interesting comments on the Sunday supplement programme this morning. One of the writers was saying that it’s difficult at Everton because they are two many factions in the boardroom and they need to sort that out when it comes to making decisions. He then went on to say he fears they are going to make a “strange” appointment next Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted December 8, 2019 Report Share Posted December 8, 2019 3 hours ago, Finn balor said: Interesting comments on the Sunday supplement programme this morning. One of the writers was saying that it’s difficult at Everton because they are two many factions in the boardroom and they need to sort that out when it comes to making decisions. He then went on to say he fears they are going to make a “strange” appointment next With everything that has gone on - those who are seemingly having a power battle need to realise that enough is enough. My understanding is that kenwright and moshiri are like a pair of chuckle brothers who use brands as a consultant. If true then they need to back off and let him do his job. Moyes was being considered as an appointment??? Absolutely farcical, he took the proverbial out of us when he joined Man United. Even then.... his managerial performances have not been great since he left us. But no doubt Bill was calling for him. Moshiri needs to stick to funding the new stadium and writing cheques. All been very bizarre Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newty82 Posted December 8, 2019 Report Share Posted December 8, 2019 Considering Moshiri now owns about 77% of the club, I'm not sure how there can be much of a power struggle and/or difficulty in making decisions. It's down to him. Hopefully Brands plays a role like he should be, the man has sound credentials. pete0, Romey 1878, Bailey and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ger Posted December 8, 2019 Report Share Posted December 8, 2019 I hope they don't rush it, I'd leave Dunc in charge for the next few matches (at least until the FA cup derby), I really don't see what we've got to lose. The danger for a new manager coming in now with the run of games we have if that if results go against us, the confidence will just drop and we end up back in the relegation zone in 5 or 6 games time. I can't see the manager turning that around. The atmosphere in the ground yesterday was great, the fans love Dunc and will give him a chance. As Shearer mentioned on MOTD, he seemed to unleash the monster in DCL, got him playing a more aggressive game, like Dunc played himself. If he does well into the new year I'd certainly give him the rest of the season unless we can get the right manager in the new year. The only manager I'd like to see would be Poch (obviously), but there absolutely no chance of that. Nobody else mentioned seems to fit for me. Would I take Moyes, yes I would. Sometimes you have to take a step backwards to move forward. Moyes knows the club and certainly won't get us relegated. I think we have to accept that top 6 may be a few seasons away. I do think the board need to sort themselves out though before we can make any real progress. AlbanyNYToffee 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nogs Posted December 8, 2019 Report Share Posted December 8, 2019 23 hours ago, markjazzbassist said: 2 wins doesn’t make a campaign. He loses to the minnows far too often. I wrote Man Utd off this season but I reckon I was wrong. Solksjaer has dumped the egos blooded a load of kids and got them fifth atm. I expect a really difficult game at Old Trafford and reckon they will be right in the running for 4th chicagoblue 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted December 8, 2019 Report Share Posted December 8, 2019 6 minutes ago, nogs said: I wrote Man Utd off this season but I reckon I was wrong. Solksjaer has dumped the egos blooded a load of kids and got them fifth atm. I expect a really difficult game at Old Trafford and reckon they will be right in the running for 4th The problem for Utd isn't in the big games with the pace and quality they have upfront. They could rip any team to shreds but also don't need lots of chances to score. The test for Utd will be against the compact sides that counter them. For me that is where a manager proves his worth as most sides can set themselves up to be difficult to beat. What is interesting is that the board are at least appearing to give him the chance to build a team in the traditional Utd image. If we went down that route with our next manager, would we be prepared to do the same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nogs Posted December 8, 2019 Report Share Posted December 8, 2019 14 minutes ago, Bailey said: The problem for Utd isn't in the big games with the pace and quality they have upfront. They could rip any team to shreds but also don't need lots of chances to score. The test for Utd will be against the compact sides that counter them. For me that is where a manager proves his worth as most sides can set themselves up to be difficult to beat. What is interesting is that the board are at least appearing to give him the chance to build a team in the traditional Utd image. If we went down that route with our next manager, would we be prepared to do the same. I think that's the key at any club. Success requires a long term strategy Btay, Bailey and Matt 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finn balor Posted December 8, 2019 Report Share Posted December 8, 2019 26 minutes ago, nogs said: I wrote Man Utd off this season but I reckon I was wrong. Solksjaer has dumped the egos blooded a load of kids and got them fifth atm. I expect a really difficult game at Old Trafford and reckon they will be right in the running for 4th I disagree. Pogba has disappeared off the planet. There’s loads going on at united behind the scenes. Poch will be there come next season markjazzbassist 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finn balor Posted December 8, 2019 Report Share Posted December 8, 2019 35 minutes ago, Ger said: I hope they don't rush it, I'd leave Dunc in charge for the next few matches (at least until the FA cup derby), I really don't see what we've got to lose. The danger for a new manager coming in now with the run of games we have if that if results go against us, the confidence will just drop and we end up back in the relegation zone in 5 or 6 games time. I can't see the manager turning that around. The atmosphere in the ground yesterday was great, the fans love Dunc and will give him a chance. As Shearer mentioned on MOTD, he seemed to unleash the monster in DCL, got him playing a more aggressive game, like Dunc played himself. If he does well into the new year I'd certainly give him the rest of the season unless we can get the right manager in the new year. The only manager I'd like to see would be Poch (obviously), but there absolutely no chance of that. Nobody else mentioned seems to fit for me. Would I take Moyes, yes I would. Sometimes you have to take a step backwards to move forward. Moyes knows the club and certainly won't get us relegated. I think we have to accept that top 6 may be a few seasons away. I do think the board need to sort themselves out though before we can make any real progress. Great post but like someone else said, we’ve had a good first game under Unsworth. Duncs fire will only last so long Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted December 8, 2019 Report Share Posted December 8, 2019 Moshiri is the majority share holder, and has made most of the decisions when it comes to managers as far as I can see, I hope that now he realises that he isn’t the best placed for making team decisions and leaves it totally in the hands of Brands, after all that’s what he’s been employed to do. markjazzbassist and Romey 1878 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Posted December 8, 2019 Report Share Posted December 8, 2019 Whoever it may be we need a permanent manager before the new year, you have to give the new man the transfer window in January to try and improve things. chicagoblue, Zoo 2.0, Romey 1878 and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Blue Posted December 8, 2019 Report Share Posted December 8, 2019 45 minutes ago, Bill said: Whoever it may be we need a permanent manager before the new year, you have to give the new man the transfer window in January to try and improve things. I think Brands will of identified targets long ago, I doubt the new manager will have much of a say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted December 8, 2019 Report Share Posted December 8, 2019 2 hours ago, Palfy said: Moshiri is the majority share holder, and has made most of the decisions when it comes to managers as far as I can see, I hope that now he realises that he isn’t the best placed for making team decisions and leaves it totally in the hands of Brands, after all that’s what he’s been employed to do. If the reports are accurate then Brands wanted Silva to stay so I wouldn't be so sure that the appointment of the new man is in his hands. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted December 8, 2019 Report Share Posted December 8, 2019 25 minutes ago, Bailey said: If the reports are accurate then Brands wanted Silva to stay so I wouldn't be so sure that the appointment of the new man is in his hands. Well if it’s entirely in Moshiri’s that doesn’t bode well for the future. markjazzbassist and Bailey 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC11 Posted December 8, 2019 Report Share Posted December 8, 2019 It’s survival first so appointment will be someone with a track record in that, I’m convinced Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavisJD Posted December 8, 2019 Report Share Posted December 8, 2019 chicagoblue 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlbanyNYToffee Posted December 9, 2019 Report Share Posted December 9, 2019 6 hours ago, Ger said: I hope they don't rush it, I'd leave Dunc in charge for the next few matches (at least until the FA cup derby), I really don't see what we've got to lose. The danger for a new manager coming in now with the run of games we have if that if results go against us, the confidence will just drop and we end up back in the relegation zone in 5 or 6 games time. I can't see the manager turning that around. The atmosphere in the ground yesterday was great, the fans love Dunc and will give him a chance. As Shearer mentioned on MOTD, he seemed to unleash the monster in DCL, got him playing a more aggressive game, like Dunc played himself. If he does well into the new year I'd certainly give him the rest of the season unless we can get the right manager in the new year. The only manager I'd like to see would be Poch (obviously), but there absolutely no chance of that. Nobody else mentioned seems to fit for me. Would I take Moyes, yes I would. Sometimes you have to take a step backwards to move forward. Moyes knows the club and certainly won't get us relegated. I think we have to accept that top 6 may be a few seasons away. I do think the board need to sort themselves out though before we can make any real progress. Agree completely. Dunc should have as long as it takes to get the best candidate - or the results are back to unbearable. Moyes and others who are ‘relegation-savers’ will be there whenever we need them why rush to appoint one of them. Let’s see what Dunc’s got and hopefully in January one of our top targets agrees to manage and he and Brands can get a player or two in during January window. Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted December 9, 2019 Report Share Posted December 9, 2019 The vast majority of relegation specialists to what Dunc did at the weekend.... utilise the new manager bounce, uncomplicate things, in banks of 4, no messing at the back and go direct. We have a few weeks to get through a busy period and hope that brands is able to land the striker, centre half etc that we needed, plus a centre mid which is also now a priority. Bailey and Btay 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornish Steve Posted December 9, 2019 Report Share Posted December 9, 2019 On 07/12/2019 at 15:25, Romey 1878 said: Ferguson has said he doesn’t want the job permanently btw. Which is good, because he shouldn't get it permanently. One swallow does not a summer make. All credit to him for Saturday's performance, but we need a quality manager. markjazzbassist 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornish Steve Posted December 9, 2019 Report Share Posted December 9, 2019 7 hours ago, MC11 said: It’s survival first so appointment will be someone with a track record in that, I’m convinced That scares me, to be honest. Allardyce again? Pulis? Moyes again? Pardew? If I were a betting man based on what I see right now, I'd say Gallardo will get the job - which would be a huge risk. We need someone who gets the team, who has Prem experience, and who has real ambition. Not many meet those criteria. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted December 9, 2019 Report Share Posted December 9, 2019 4 hours ago, Cornish Steve said: That scares me, to be honest. Allardyce again? Pulis? Moyes again? Pardew? If I were a betting man based on what I see right now, I'd say Gallardo will get the job - which would be a huge risk. We need someone who gets the team, who has Prem experience, and who has real ambition. Not many meet those criteria. I think somehow the board have managed to understand that another offering of an allardyce, Moyes manager may see a revolt. I'm pretty certain that some serious stuff has gone on behind closed doors. The biggest question mark is Brands, my understanding is that moshiri wanted Silva at all costs.... brands more or less went along with it and actually wanted him to retain his role till the summer. The post I seen from The Esk on Twitter suggested that brands has a top manager lined up for the summer and that's why he wanted Silva to stay. This season is the strangest one I have seen. There are only a few teams who can quite categorically beat the majority... the rest it all seems to come down to who wants it most. United have become reinvigorated by bringing in some young lads who have desire, teams like sheff United are doing well by showing a willingness to be bold, support each other. In short it's attitude over aptitude. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weetabix Posted December 9, 2019 Report Share Posted December 9, 2019 Here's another one - surely we wouldn't be this stupid with a guy who doesn't communicate well: https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11671/11882197/unai-emery-former-arsenal-boss-approached-by-everton-for-manager-job Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aidan Posted December 9, 2019 Report Share Posted December 9, 2019 Just now, Weetabix said: Here's another one - surely we wouldn't be this stupid with a guy who doesn't communicate well: https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11671/11882197/unai-emery-former-arsenal-boss-approached-by-everton-for-manager-job Wonder what he could have achieved there if the board had sorted the defence out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted December 9, 2019 Report Share Posted December 9, 2019 14 hours ago, Bailey said: If the reports are accurate then Brands wanted Silva to stay so I wouldn't be so sure that the appointment of the new man is in his hands. But he’s clearly not an idiot and will have had ideas of who to bring in to replace Silva. If he didn’t he’s not as good at his job as we think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted December 9, 2019 Report Share Posted December 9, 2019 5 hours ago, Hafnia said: I think somehow the board have managed to understand that another offering of an allardyce, Moyes manager may see a revolt. I'm pretty certain that some serious stuff has gone on behind closed doors. The biggest question mark is Brands, my understanding is that moshiri wanted Silva at all costs.... brands more or less went along with it and actually wanted him to retain his role till the summer. The post I seen from The Esk on Twitter suggested that brands has a top manager lined up for the summer and that's why he wanted Silva to stay. This season is the strangest one I have seen. There are only a few teams who can quite categorically beat the majority... the rest it all seems to come down to who wants it most. United have become reinvigorated by bringing in some young lads who have desire, teams like sheff United are doing well by showing a willingness to be bold, support each other. In short it's attitude over aptitude. If true Brands has some one lined up in the summer, then we should stick Ferguson to see us through to the end of the season, he’s put the fire back in there bellies, now I know there are some who say a manager shouldn’t have to do that, but Chelsea’s game is the proof they need to. I would be confident he’d get us safely through to the end of the season. Hafnia 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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