Shukes Posted August 2, 2017 Report Share Posted August 2, 2017 If he is to go this summer I would hope the club would insist on a buy back option. Very unlikely mind. Doubt any club would accept that as he will command a high price in any case. Would be great though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted August 2, 2017 Report Share Posted August 2, 2017 I'm with Haf on that, our hopes and expectations were for him to be the players he was likened to. Gazza, Ballack, Gerrard, different pundits have compared him to so many great players. It's almost like some fellas are mad that he never turned out as good as them. It's just unrealistic. The lad is a very very good premier league player, why not just be happy with that. There will still be a lot of coaches out there who think they could have him playing like a world beater. If we bought a player with his quality for £30m I think most would be made up, but he has to be a £50m player because we were told he would be six years ago. Matt and Chach 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newty82 Posted August 2, 2017 Report Share Posted August 2, 2017 Yeah, there has always been a sky high expectation around Barkley. Probably unreasonably high. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted August 2, 2017 Report Share Posted August 2, 2017 Still don't see Sigurdson as an upgrade. So if he is worth 50m, then Barkley should be around the same. He will go somewhere and shine, I'm 93.5% sure if it. Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparks FC Posted August 3, 2017 Report Share Posted August 3, 2017 Still don't see Sigurdson as an upgrade. So if he is worth 50m, then Barkley should be around the same. He will go somewhere and shine, I'm 93.5% sure if it. Last year of his contract, the club's hands are tied on wanting to keep him as it's reported he wants to go. It's less about the player and more about the contract and negotiating power. Only hope of collecting a fee close to 50m is a bidding war (if you believe the papers). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted August 3, 2017 Report Share Posted August 3, 2017 Last year of his contract, the club's hands are tied on wanting to keep him as it's reported he wants to go. It's less about the player and more about the contract and negotiating power. Only hope of collecting a fee close to 50m is a bidding war (if you believe the papers). Ye don't disagree at all. Not a good situation at all. I just hope that whoever replaces him is better or can change the way we play a bit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Posted August 3, 2017 Report Share Posted August 3, 2017 Chelsea want £50m for Costa, I'd much rather give that amount for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaron Posted August 3, 2017 Report Share Posted August 3, 2017 Chelsea want £50m for Costa, I'd much rather give that amount for him. But Costa isn't going to join us. Plus this is the Barkley thread Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Posted August 3, 2017 Report Share Posted August 3, 2017 (edited) Ha ha what a dick head. Sorry I thought I was in the Gylfi thread. But if you look up at previous posts you'll see several of them are about Gylfi not being that much better than Ross. Edited August 3, 2017 by Bill aaron 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddock Posted August 4, 2017 Report Share Posted August 4, 2017 Betting suspended on him going to Arsenal by all accounts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC11 Posted August 4, 2017 Report Share Posted August 4, 2017 Still don't see Sigurdson as an upgrade. So if he is worth 50m, then Barkley should be around the same. He will go somewhere and shine, I'm 93.5% sure if it. You're bang on the money with this Shukes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted August 4, 2017 Report Share Posted August 4, 2017 Still don't see Sigurdson as an upgrade. So if he is worth 50m, then Barkley should be around the same. He will go somewhere and shine, I'm 93.5% sure if it. Mostly agree, but the length of time on the contracts is the reason behind the different prices I guess Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted August 4, 2017 Report Share Posted August 4, 2017 Betting suspended on him going to Arsenal by all accounts. 9/1 Arsenal, 5/4 Spurs I just saw?. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddock Posted August 4, 2017 Report Share Posted August 4, 2017 Can't find the tweets now but there were several tweets with screenshots of betting suspended on Arsenal. Still means nothing I suppose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newty82 Posted August 4, 2017 Report Share Posted August 4, 2017 Can't find the tweets now but there were several tweets with screenshots of betting suspended on Arsenal. Still means nothing I suppose. Means the bookies are doing their job of making money! The odds for him to join Newcastle took off yesterday...before calming down again today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddock Posted August 4, 2017 Report Share Posted August 4, 2017 Means the bookies are doing their job of making money! The odds for him to join Newcastle took off yesterday...before calming down again today. Yep- or someones lumped a shit load of money on him going to Arsenal and they've shit themselves and closed the book. It was on Twitter also which means nothing. Can't be arsed finding them though, Twitter is horrendous for finding old tweets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chach Posted August 6, 2017 Report Share Posted August 6, 2017 (edited) Mostly agree, but the length of time on the contracts is the reason behind the different prices I guess Yeah Siggy is contracted until August 2020. Apparently we've dropped our valuation to 35 million, with a year left on Barkley's contract I would expect somewhere in the region of 15-20 would be more realistic. Edited August 6, 2017 by Chach Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete0 Posted August 6, 2017 Report Share Posted August 6, 2017 Yeah Siggy is contracted until August 2020. Apparently we've dropped our valuation to 35 million, with a year left on Barkley's contract I would expect somewhere in the region of 15-20 would be more realistic. We paid £30m for Keane who only had a year on his contract. I'd expect more for Barkley. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chach Posted August 6, 2017 Report Share Posted August 6, 2017 We paid £30m for Keane who only had a year on his contract. I'd expect more for Barkley. Was only 25 mill and Keane hadn't publicly fallen out with his boss. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted August 6, 2017 Report Share Posted August 6, 2017 Was only 25 mill and Keane hadn't publicly fallen out with his boss. Also keane was still playing for England regularly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted August 6, 2017 Report Share Posted August 6, 2017 Also keane was still playing for England regularly. He's only played for them twice . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimonButtle Posted August 6, 2017 Report Share Posted August 6, 2017 He's only played for them twice . Under the current regime he is part of it though, Ross has not been involved with England for a long time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted August 6, 2017 Report Share Posted August 6, 2017 Under the current regime he is part of it though, Ross has not been involved with England for a long time. Two games doesn't make Keane an England regular was my point; Ross has been an England regular and I think he can be again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aidan Posted August 6, 2017 Report Share Posted August 6, 2017 (edited) We paid £30m for Keane who only had a year on his contract. I'd expect more for Barkley.Keane had a stand out season and is highly thought of. Barkley is struggling and only shows glimpses of ability, therefore is a risk at a high price. Edited August 6, 2017 by AidanLewis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newty82 Posted August 6, 2017 Report Share Posted August 6, 2017 Was only 25 mill and Keane hadn't publicly fallen out with his boss. Neither has Barkley. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chach Posted August 6, 2017 Report Share Posted August 6, 2017 Neither has Barkley. I think they have, theres more to this than 'wants a new challenge" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted August 6, 2017 Report Share Posted August 6, 2017 Keane had a stand out season and is highly thought of. Barkley is struggling and only shows glimpses of ability, therefore is a risk at a high price. Glimpses of ability!? Probably our best player over the last 4 years or so since he came into the side. Matt, MikeO and Chach 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aidan Posted August 6, 2017 Report Share Posted August 6, 2017 Glimpses of ability!? Probably our best player over the last 4 years or so since he came into the side. I guess we will have to agree to disagree. He's been average. I mean how many evertonians are realistically devastated to see him go because of his impact on the games we play? Many will be upset because we're losing a blue, but not because he's a great asset to lose ability wise. Season after season we hope he will show what he's got in his locker. Manager after manager we hope someone can make him grow into what we hoped. You can't have potential forever. SimonButtle and holystove 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted August 6, 2017 Report Share Posted August 6, 2017 Barkley is not about potential... hes a genuine talent who keeps getting nailed because he's not scoring worldies or running games single handed. Watching us now tells you a lot. Chach 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted August 6, 2017 Report Share Posted August 6, 2017 I guess we will have to agree to disagree. He's been average. I mean how many evertonians are realistically devastated to see him go because of his impact on the games we play? Many will be upset because we're losing a blue, but not because he's a great asset to lose ability wise. Season after season we hope he will show what he's got in his locker. Manager after manager we hope someone can make him grow into what we hoped. You can't have potential forever. Completely disagree. I'd have him startinh on the right ahead of everyone else at the moment. Chach 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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