Romey 1878 Posted September 19, 2017 Report Share Posted September 19, 2017 4 minutes ago, hafnia said: Just to be clear. I was pulling your leg. However, as I've said previously Koeman's recent comments suggest there was an attitude problem from Niasse, rather than it being about his ability (or not solely about his ability). It's clear Koeman doesn't rate Niasse, I know I don't, and he told him he wasn't in his plans and then he refused to move on that summer and it looks as though that got up Koeman's nose (it did mine tbh). Which looks to have made him look a bad egg in Koeman's eyes. Maybe Niasse was calling his bluff not thinking Koeman would shut him out if he didn't move, who knows? But from there it seems he got his head down for the U23s and then had a decent spell with Hull, showing Koeman that he's not a knob head. Obviously there's been a spat, but I don't think the situation is anything like the one you want to paint. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted September 19, 2017 Report Share Posted September 19, 2017 Just now, Romey 1878 said: I was pulling your leg. However, as I've said previously Koeman's recent comments suggest there was an attitude problem from Niasse, rather than it being about his ability (or not solely about his ability). It's clear Koeman doesn't rate Niasse, I know I don't, and he told him he wasn't in his plans and then he refused to move on that summer and it looks as though that got up Koeman's nose (it did mine tbh). Which looks to have made him look a bad egg in Koeman's eyes. Maybe Niasse was calling his bluff not thinking Koeman would shut him out if he didn't move, who knows? But from there it seems he got his head down for the U23s and then had a decent spell with Hull, showing Koeman that he's not a knob head. Obviously there's been a spat, but I don't think the situation is anything like the one you want to paint. I just think koeman got it horrifically wrong in the media with the lad. Unsworth coming out and praising niasse was quite telling.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted September 19, 2017 Report Share Posted September 19, 2017 Just now, hafnia said: I just think koeman got it horrifically wrong in the media with the lad. Unsworth coming out and praising niasse was quite telling.. Tbf, all he had to go on was Niasse's reaction to being told he'd have to move if he wanted to play football. Which was to not move on and seemingly be happy not to play football. I'm not surprised Koeman saw his arse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibdane Posted September 19, 2017 Report Share Posted September 19, 2017 And then Koeman came out and praised him. Shukes 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted September 19, 2017 Report Share Posted September 19, 2017 I think Niasse should have been given his chance last season, but Koeman the Man who never gets anything wrong banished him to rot in the reserves, now we hear he is having a change of heart, oh Koeman how brave you are to eat humble pie and do a complete u turn, no mate what an a complete prick you were in the first place. If Niasse does get a chance I'm sure he will take it with open arms and give his all, because I believe he is a genuine hard working player who wants to succeed, but I'm sure it will be bitter sweet for him because he help to save the man who made his life hell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nogs Posted September 19, 2017 Report Share Posted September 19, 2017 Makes you wonder about Koeman's man management abilities. Can think of a certain other player he's not exactly been diplomatic about. I hope Niasse plays and bags three, I really do. Rooney should be able to play number 9 til January but is too interested in running around trying to kick the football for everyone else too. We just need a body up there. There's good delivery in the side, someone who can find space in the box should get goals if we just start putting it in there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted September 20, 2017 Report Share Posted September 20, 2017 Well we're not scoring goals and losing heavily. So if he comes into the pitch and doesn't score, and we lose heavily... then he is doing just as well. if he makes any difference at all, then it's an improvement. Again, it's about the team not a bunch of individuals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c1982 Posted September 20, 2017 Author Report Share Posted September 20, 2017 (edited) Well done Oumar... go and prove us all (bar Palfy) wrong now and become a real striking option! ?? Reason for edit: Palfy doesn't like being pigeon holed. Edited September 20, 2017 by c1982 Palfy doesn't like being pigeon holed. markjazzbassist and MikeO 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted September 20, 2017 Report Share Posted September 20, 2017 11 minutes ago, c1982 said: Well done Oumar... go and prove us all wrong now and become a real striking option! ?? Was a quality finish, only Sunderland admittedly but I'm so happy for the lad, really got his head down and worked when written off; love the crowd reaction to him. Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aidan Posted September 20, 2017 Report Share Posted September 20, 2017 Good mentality from the player. Good goal. Shame about the way he's been treated but let's not get ahead of ourselves he still won't be here next season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c1982 Posted September 20, 2017 Author Report Share Posted September 20, 2017 11 minutes ago, MikeO said: Was a quality finish, only Sunderland admittedly but I'm so happy for the lad, really got his head down and worked when written off; love the crowd reaction to him. His 'mistreatment' has earnt him cult status... he may not have got the leeway had it worked out differently - the increased support because of the negativity may actually help!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted September 20, 2017 Report Share Posted September 20, 2017 21 minutes ago, c1982 said: Well done Oumar... go and prove us all wrong now and become a real striking option! ?? I've never criticised him, so don't use the analogy all wrong, not trying to be picky but I don't want to be pigeon holed as one of the critics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted September 20, 2017 Report Share Posted September 20, 2017 4 minutes ago, c1982 said: His 'mistreatment' has earnt him cult status... he may not have got the leeway had it worked out differently - the increased support because of the negativity may actually help!!! Straq 2.0. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c1982 Posted September 20, 2017 Author Report Share Posted September 20, 2017 12 minutes ago, Palfy said: I've never criticised him, so don't use the analogy all wrong, not trying to be picky but I don't want to be pigeon holed as one of the critics. Sorted it for you now ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted September 20, 2017 Report Share Posted September 20, 2017 15 minutes ago, c1982 said: Sorted it for you now ?? Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chicagoblue Posted September 20, 2017 Report Share Posted September 20, 2017 1 hour ago, MikeO said: Straq 2.0. From what little we've seen of him, and snippets from his time at Hull, I think he's at least 3.0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chalkpie Posted September 21, 2017 Report Share Posted September 21, 2017 We've got a diamond called Niasse Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted September 21, 2017 Report Share Posted September 21, 2017 Great finish but it'll take more than that for me to change my mind about him. I'll be wanting to see more from his as an actual footballer for that to happen. By the time he came on we weren't really doing much so it was hard to judge if he's still as "raw" in his play. Paddock and markjazzbassist 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted September 21, 2017 Report Share Posted September 21, 2017 Tut tut tut, football is about scoring goals remember! Haf... get im! Newty82 and Romey 1878 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newty82 Posted September 21, 2017 Report Share Posted September 21, 2017 His only job is to score goals...so long as he does that, the rest is irrelevant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted September 21, 2017 Report Share Posted September 21, 2017 57 minutes ago, Shukes said: Tut tut tut, football is about scoring goals remember! Haf... get im! Haha..... his first touch can't be slated after that chest down.... Fellaini esque Shukes 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted September 21, 2017 Report Share Posted September 21, 2017 Koeman realised how far his stock has fallen. Well done niasse. Great spirit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted September 21, 2017 Report Share Posted September 21, 2017 I made a snap judgement of a player, took the piss out of him in press conferences and didnt give him a locker but OK - i havent got a fuckin clue what im doing so I may need to play him. Don't be so hard on yourself Haf, we all wrote him iff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted September 21, 2017 Report Share Posted September 21, 2017 http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/im-happy-oumar-niasse-im-13651756 My favourite tweet... Peter H, Newty82, Matt and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted September 21, 2017 Report Share Posted September 21, 2017 59 minutes ago, duncanmckenzieismagic said: Don't be so hard on yourself Haf, we all wrote him iff Most Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete0 Posted September 21, 2017 Report Share Posted September 21, 2017 15 hours ago, Romey 1878 said: Great finish but it'll take more than that for me to change my mind about him. I'll be wanting to see more from his as an actual footballer for that to happen. By the time he came on we weren't really doing much so it was hard to judge if he's still as "raw" in his play. Don't think we'll see much more than a poacher. Reminds me of Defoe, pegs the defense back making runs, and once he's away just bangs it (doesn't have the finesse to place them). Cracking finish list night though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aidan Posted September 21, 2017 Report Share Posted September 21, 2017 58 minutes ago, MikeO said: http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/im-happy-oumar-niasse-im-13651756 My favourite tweet... He played the last half of the season for hull didn't he? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quinn31 Posted September 21, 2017 Report Share Posted September 21, 2017 2 minutes ago, pete0 said: Don't think we'll see much more than a poacher. Reminds me of Defoe, pegs the defense back making runs, and once he's away just bangs it (doesn't have the finesse to place them). Cracking finish list night though. Which might be what we need actually given the lack of pace up top. He would keep high-pressing defenses honest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted September 21, 2017 Report Share Posted September 21, 2017 7 minutes ago, Aidan Lewis said: He played the last half of the season for hull didn't he? I presume 500 days for us, not his loan spell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted September 21, 2017 Report Share Posted September 21, 2017 42 minutes ago, Matt said: I presume 500 days for us, not his loan spell Yup, Hull don't count. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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