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plaidharper Posted November 15, 2022 Report Share Posted November 15, 2022 Doucoure looking done in an Everton shirt. Poor performances recently. No talk of extending his contract. Walking on a free in the summer. If he wants to leave or earn a new contract with us you would think he would be chomping at the bit to impress but alas... If the desire is not there, Frank should just play someone willing to fight for the shirt. Davies or a u23 player like Price, etc. Sad end to a player who has put in some shifts over his time here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted November 15, 2022 Report Share Posted November 15, 2022 32 minutes ago, plaidharper said: Doucoure looking done in an Everton shirt. Poor performances recently. No talk of extending his contract. Walking on a free in the summer. If he wants to leave or earn a new contract with us you would think he would be chomping at the bit to impress but alas... If the desire is not there, Frank should just play someone willing to fight for the shirt. Davies or a u23 player like Price, etc. Sad end to a player who has put in some shifts over his time here. Your right he has put some big shifts in over the years, unfortunately lacks the ability when in possession of the ball, and Lampard is looking for quality on the ball to go with hard work in winning it back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornish Steve Posted November 15, 2022 Report Share Posted November 15, 2022 I've been very disappointed with him this season. For sure, it must hit your ego when the manager brings in a number of players to replace you, but that's no excuse for the lacklustre attitude and performances. Some react to such a scenario by putting in the extra effort to prove the manager wrong. Others, sadly, take umbrage and let it affect their play. It seems that Doucoure falls into the latter category. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted November 15, 2022 Report Share Posted November 15, 2022 I dont see Doucoure not putting in the effort. He just isnt very good on the ball and never has been. Onana is the one ghosting through games. Matt, Romey 1878 and StevO 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted November 16, 2022 Report Share Posted November 16, 2022 8 hours ago, Bailey said: I dont see Doucoure not putting in the effort. He just isnt very good on the ball and never has been. Onana is the one ghosting through games. 100%, but in your opinion of Lampard is it his fault for not improving him, or do you think that side of his game can not be improved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted November 17, 2022 Report Share Posted November 17, 2022 On 16/11/2022 at 07:53, Palfy said: 100%, but in your opinion of Lampard is it his fault for not improving him, or do you think that side of his game can not be improved. To get the best out of Doucoure you need to maximise what he is good at which is going box-to-box. You cant play through him. You use him for his engine and then whatever he does above that is a bonus. He gets in the box pretty well, albeit the output isnt amazing (to say the least). You are never going to make him a technical footballer at this stage of his career. One of the things that Benitez did well when he started here was that he realised that about Doucoure and he became a genuine threat. He played to his strengths. I said this early under Lampard and people laughed but I didnt see him as Lampard type because Lampard clearly wanted players who are better technically. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted November 17, 2022 Report Share Posted November 17, 2022 I thought Doucoure played his best football for us when he was doing the running for James. His game was simple, win the ball and give it to someone more talented further up the pitch or to Coleman next to him. He doesn’t have a lot more to his game than that. Did a job for a couple of years, on the list of players to be replaced in the squad for me. Matt, Romey 1878, Sibdane and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted November 17, 2022 Report Share Posted November 17, 2022 6 hours ago, Bailey said: I said this early under Lampard and people laughed but I didnt see him as Lampard type because Lampard clearly wanted players who are better technically. Again 100% agree. And I think Lampard has inherited a fair few players that he can't improve because they lack skills required to play how he wants. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted December 21, 2022 Report Share Posted December 21, 2022 Sibdane and Cornish Steve 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibdane Posted December 21, 2022 Report Share Posted December 21, 2022 Would like another body in if he goes. I don’t really see him fitting in our plans much going forward. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plaidharper Posted December 21, 2022 Report Share Posted December 21, 2022 43 minutes ago, Sibdane said: Would like another body in if he goes. I don’t really see him fitting in our plans much going forward. If he left we would still have Onana, Gana, Garner, Davies, and Price to fill two spots. Wonder if we need to move some players to get in an attacking option? Sibdane 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Posted December 21, 2022 Report Share Posted December 21, 2022 Nowt wrong with doucoure, Cost a few £s to get somebody better. Palfy and StevO 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornish Steve Posted December 21, 2022 Report Share Posted December 21, 2022 4 minutes ago, Bill said: Nowt wrong with doucoure, Cost a few £s to get somebody better. It's more a case of reducing options in midfield in order to bring in genuine talent up front. Romey 1878 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted December 21, 2022 Report Share Posted December 21, 2022 He is probably the back-up I would least like to leave. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuffRob Posted December 22, 2022 Report Share Posted December 22, 2022 Give how tight things appear to be, a sale of asset might be needed to strengthen further up the pitch. Agree, not ideal him leaving, but probably still has some resale value and would free up a decent wage. If Garner was fit and maybe had a few more game under his belt - then I would say cash in. However, as this is not the case I would be a bit nervous of letting Douc's go just yet. He is not yet flowing this season, but he is a player who is a bona fida option in midfield. StevO 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted December 22, 2022 Report Share Posted December 22, 2022 I guess its all about the price. If Fulham want to pay good money then let them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted December 22, 2022 Report Share Posted December 22, 2022 Forest also in for him apparently https://www.nottinghampost.com/sport/football/transfer-news/nottingham-forest-transfers-doucoure-fulham-7961537 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted December 22, 2022 Report Share Posted December 22, 2022 52 minutes ago, duncanmckenzieismagic said: Forest also in for him apparently https://www.nottinghampost.com/sport/football/transfer-news/nottingham-forest-transfers-doucoure-fulham-7961537 Is there anyone Forest aren’t in for? Bailey, MikeO and Matt 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonsta Posted December 22, 2022 Report Share Posted December 22, 2022 1 hour ago, Bailey said: I guess its all about the price. If Fulham want to pay good money then let them. This is Everton, we buy at top dollar, then give them away. Bailey 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted December 23, 2022 Report Share Posted December 23, 2022 On 21/12/2022 at 15:45, plaidharper said: If he left we would still have Onana, Gana, Garner, Davies, and Price to fill two spots. Wonder if we need to move some players to get in an attacking option? Can’t include Price yet. Not for the Premier League. Maybe next season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted December 23, 2022 Report Share Posted December 23, 2022 9 hours ago, StevO said: Can’t include Price yet. Not for the Premier League. Maybe next season. Can't include Davies. Not for the Premier League ever. StevO 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted December 23, 2022 Report Share Posted December 23, 2022 4 hours ago, Romey 1878 said: Can't include Davies. Not for the Premier League ever. Wish you wouldn’t sit on the fence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted December 23, 2022 Report Share Posted December 23, 2022 1 hour ago, StevO said: Wish you wouldn’t sit on the fence. I'll make it my New Year's resolution. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted January 5, 2023 Report Share Posted January 5, 2023 Looks like offloading him will be difficult due to his wages. Reports suggest between £100-120k! If so there is no way he is going anywhere permanently without us continuing to pay him some of that money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted January 7, 2023 Report Share Posted January 7, 2023 On 05/01/2023 at 14:23, Bailey said: Looks like offloading him will be difficult due to his wages. Reports suggest between £100-120k! If so there is no way he is going anywhere permanently without us continuing to pay him some of that money. Thought he did well when he came on last night, there are a few other midfielders on our books I would rather be sold than him to be honest Palfy, Romey 1878 and Bailey 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiggytop Posted January 7, 2023 Report Share Posted January 7, 2023 1 hour ago, duncanmckenzieismagic said: Thought he did well when he came on last night, there are a few other midfielders on our books I would rather be sold than him to be honest He was more like the Doucoure we first bought, and worth keeping if he keeps that up. Romey 1878 and duncanmckenzieismagic 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Btay Posted January 7, 2023 Report Share Posted January 7, 2023 We’re going to need him back to his absolute best. Good chance to get him further forward where his much more effective in my opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted January 8, 2023 Report Share Posted January 8, 2023 11 hours ago, duncanmckenzieismagic said: Thought he did well when he came on last night, there are a few other midfielders on our books I would rather be sold than him to be honest Perfect type of game for him, being asked to cover ground and break forward. His issues will come when he needs to do more on/with the ball, which is more likely to happen in the games against Southampton and West Ham. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted January 8, 2023 Report Share Posted January 8, 2023 3 hours ago, Bailey said: Perfect type of game for him, being asked to cover ground and break forward. His issues will come when he needs to do more on/with the ball, which is more likely to happen in the games against Southampton and West Ham. You mean we played to his strengths and he did well? Romey 1878, Palfy, Bailey and 1 other 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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