Matt Posted December 17, 2021 Report Share Posted December 17, 2021 49 minutes ago, Btay said: He is mediocre as can be, has a decent few games and everyone forgets the shit patch. There’s a good reason no clubs above us have looked at him. There’s also very little chance he plays for England again in my opinion. Not sure 2 seasons constitutes a "patch" mate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Btay Posted December 17, 2021 Report Share Posted December 17, 2021 13 hours ago, Matt said: Not sure 2 seasons constitutes a "patch" mate You get my point though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornish Steve Posted December 17, 2021 Report Share Posted December 17, 2021 It's quite amusing to see how opinions vary from one thread to another. I've been reading over and over, on the Benitez thread, how we're doing so poorly because we're missing our best defender, Mina. Here I'm reading that he's nowhere near our best defender and we should move him along. Which is it? Personally, I think he is a strong defender, but his injury record has been unfortunate. Do we stick with him in hopes of better luck going forward, or do we cash in on him and remove his large wage bill? Personally, I'm in two minds about this one. If Benitez is willing to trust our younger players, then move him along. If instead he wants to bring in another older player, then forget it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Btay Posted December 18, 2021 Report Share Posted December 18, 2021 2 hours ago, Cornish Steve said: It's quite amusing to see how opinions vary from one thread to another. I've been reading over and over, on the Benitez thread, how we're doing so poorly because we're missing our best defender, Mina. Here I'm reading that he's nowhere near our best defender and we should move him along. Which is it? Personally, I think he is a strong defender, but his injury record has been unfortunate. Do we stick with him in hopes of better luck going forward, or do we cash in on him and remove his large wage bill? Personally, I'm in two minds about this one. If Benitez is willing to trust our younger players, then move him along. If instead he wants to bring in another older player, then forget it. Personally I’d move Mina on if we get anything over £15 million and give move time Branthwaite this season. Godfrey needs more time at CB to iron out his game. This window we should be offering Alessio Romagnoli pre contract because that would be a huge addition in my opinion. In the summer I would be trying to shift Micheal Keane and I think the likes of Newcastle, Watford, Burnley and co who play a deep defensive block would be interested in him. Next season - Starters:Ben Godfrey/Alessio Romagnoli Backups: Holgate/Branthwaite 2 left footed CB’s and 2 right footed - Would look to move Holgate on the following season if no improvements. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted December 18, 2021 Report Share Posted December 18, 2021 4 hours ago, Btay said: Personally I’d move Mina on if we get anything over £15 million and give move time Branthwaite this season. Godfrey needs more time at CB to iron out his game. This window we should be offering Alessio Romagnoli pre contract because that would be a huge addition in my opinion. In the summer I would be trying to shift Micheal Keane and I think the likes of Newcastle, Watford, Burnley and co who play a deep defensive block would be interested in him. Next season - Starters:Ben Godfrey/Alessio Romagnoli Backups: Holgate/Branthwaite 2 left footed CB’s and 2 right footed - Would look to move Holgate on the following season if no improvements. You don’t need to move Mina on to give more playing time to Branthwaite, I’m not sure if you have noticed but Mina is hardly ever in the team so isn’t holding Branthwaite back. The only ever present and consistent CB we have is the one you want to sell how bizarre can you imagine what the last couple of seasons would have been like if we never had the ever present Keane, let me tell as one of your fellow countryman would say disastrous darling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted December 18, 2021 Report Share Posted December 18, 2021 On 17/12/2021 at 08:36, Palfy said: I don’t think so he just needs a consistent and solid partner who has ability and a brain, whether he becomes the leader in that partnership for me is immaterial, but he’s definitely good enough to be playing at the top of this league. He should be back in the England squad he’s far better than McGuire who would crumble right in front of our eyes if he had to play in this Everton team. Keane has been solid for quite a while now, mistake’s that lead to goals aren’t coming from him but from others. I think you do him a massive disservice by your remarks, if we stay mid table it will be because of others not him. I don't think he is a top 6 level centre back. He has his moments but he isnt very agile for an experienced player he always dangles a leg out when he shouldnt. We watched Thiago just stay with his much quicker and younger man and force them into a mistake yet Keane would have been panicking, leaving a leg out and either committing a foul or getting off balance. Keane is a deep block defender where he has lots of protection around him. If we try and play more like a top 6 side, on the front foot more often, he will make more and more mistakes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnh Posted December 18, 2021 Report Share Posted December 18, 2021 11 hours ago, Cornish Steve said: It's quite amusing to see how opinions vary from one thread to another. I've been reading over and over, on the Benitez thread, how we're doing so poorly because we're missing our best defender, Mina. Here I'm reading that he's nowhere near our best defender and we should move him along. Which is it? Personally, I think he is a strong defender, but his injury record has been unfortunate. Do we stick with him in hopes of better luck going forward, or do we cash in on him and remove his large wage bill? Personally, I'm in two minds about this one. If Benitez is willing to trust our younger players, then move him along. If instead he wants to bring in another older player, then forget it. I agree with Steve here. I always feel more comfortable if I see Mina's name on the team sheet. Shame he does seem injury prone though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiggytop Posted December 18, 2021 Report Share Posted December 18, 2021 49 minutes ago, johnh said: I agree with Steve here. I always feel more comfortable if I see Mina's name on the team sheet. Shame he does seem injury prone though. He is though that’s the issue, we need continuity in the team, Mina is regularly one who doesn’t allow us to do that. Granted you can say that of almost the whole squad this season though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted December 18, 2021 Report Share Posted December 18, 2021 I am a fan of Mina's but in our situation you cant afford your best defender and probably one of the highest earners being out of the side for such long periods season after season. StevO, RuffRob, Palfy and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted December 18, 2021 Report Share Posted December 18, 2021 3 minutes ago, Bailey said: I am a fan of Mina's but in our situation you cant afford your best defender and probably one of the highest earners being out of the side for such long periods season after season. Especially if you are trying to build confidence and continuity in the team. Bailey and Matt 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Btay Posted December 18, 2021 Report Share Posted December 18, 2021 15 hours ago, Palfy said: You don’t need to move Mina on to give more playing time to Branthwaite, I’m not sure if you have noticed but Mina is hardly ever in the team so isn’t holding Branthwaite back. The only ever present and consistent CB we have is the one you want to sell how bizarre can you imagine what the last couple of seasons would have been like if we never had the ever present Keane, let me tell as one of your fellow countryman would say disastrous darling. Well he has because when he’s been fit for 5-6 games he starts. I’m just saying I’m a big big fan of Mina as a player but we need to get what ever funds we can get for him. Also I would play Branthwaite over Mina now. Ever present yes give him credit for that but consistent? The only consistent thing about him his he’s decent for 3 games and then proper average ( being kind ) for 6. I think I’ve made my stance on Keane pretty clear since he’s been here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted December 19, 2021 Report Share Posted December 19, 2021 I might end up eating my words on this but Branthwaite looked alright the other night because he was heavily protected and up against a team without a recognised centre forward. If he gets exposed against a half decent PL forward, I am not sure he will get the same rave reviews. Very early days though. dunlopp9987 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted December 19, 2021 Report Share Posted December 19, 2021 2 hours ago, Bailey said: I might end up eating my words on this but Branthwaite looked alright the other night because he was heavily protected and up against a team without a recognised centre forward. If he gets exposed against a half decent PL forward, I am not sure he will get the same rave reviews. Very early days though. To be fair he looks quite strong and athletic. I would expect him to do better against a traditional type forward. Against Chelsea he was put against possibly two of the best attacking mods in the premier league. Something that goes well on his CV. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted December 19, 2021 Report Share Posted December 19, 2021 45 minutes ago, Shukes said: To be fair he looks quite strong and athletic. I would expect him to do better against a traditional type forward. Against Chelsea he was put against possibly two of the best attacking mods in the premier league. Something that goes well on his CV. I didn’t see Mike, Matt Rom or Steve on the pitch playing for Chelsea and any were they need to resign with immediate effect Shukes and StevO 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gwlad Posted December 19, 2021 Report Share Posted December 19, 2021 We just seem to have far too many sicknotes and how we used to laugh at Darren Anderton. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted December 23, 2021 Report Share Posted December 23, 2021 On 19/12/2021 at 16:52, Shukes said: To be fair he looks quite strong and athletic. I would expect him to do better against a traditional type forward. Against Chelsea he was put against possibly two of the best attacking mods in the premier league. Something that goes well on his CV. I think its more important to have the right attitude than size necessarily and he doesnt look the dominant type. He looks more like a Keane type player than anything else and if he does turn into that type of player that will be great for us. Shukes 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Btay Posted December 23, 2021 Report Share Posted December 23, 2021 4 hours ago, Bailey said: I think its more important to have the right attitude than size necessarily and he doesnt look the dominant type. He looks more like a Keane type player than anything else and if he does turn into that type of player that will be great for us. You mean a mistake prone defender who can only play in a deep block? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted December 24, 2021 Report Share Posted December 24, 2021 15 hours ago, Btay said: You mean a mistake prone defender who can only play in a deep block? In a nutshell yes, but he is still a Premier League level centre back which would be good from our investment in Branthwaite. I do get the feeling that will be the type of player Branthwaite will be from the little I have seen of him but its really early days and there is a lot to come from him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Btay Posted December 25, 2021 Report Share Posted December 25, 2021 12 hours ago, Bailey said: In a nutshell yes, but he is still a Premier League level centre back which would be good from our investment in Branthwaite. I do get the feeling that will be the type of player Branthwaite will be from the little I have seen of him but its really early days and there is a lot to come from him. I’m only having some fun! I hope he gets a good run of games so we can have a look at what he can do. Certainly looks promising though. Bailey 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dunlopp9987 Posted January 18, 2022 Report Share Posted January 18, 2022 https://www.teamtalk.com/newcastle-united/exclusive-yerry-mina-toon-target-centre-back-options-dwindle Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post StevO Posted January 18, 2022 Popular Post Report Share Posted January 18, 2022 7 hours ago, dunlopp9987 said: https://www.teamtalk.com/newcastle-united/exclusive-yerry-mina-toon-target-centre-back-options-dwindle Sell him in a heartbeat. No doubt we could get good money for him, he can then keep the medical staff company at Newcastle. But it needs to be the new managers decision. dunlopp9987, London Blue, Romey 1878 and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted January 18, 2022 Report Share Posted January 18, 2022 5 hours ago, StevO said: Sell him in a heartbeat. No doubt we could get good money for him, he can then keep the medical staff company at Newcastle. But it needs to be the new managers decision. 2 weeks to get a new manager then or he’s staying. StevO 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plaidharper Posted January 18, 2022 Report Share Posted January 18, 2022 Would also need to replace him... Hard to see that happening. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted January 18, 2022 Report Share Posted January 18, 2022 1 minute ago, plaidharper said: Would also need to replace him... Hard to see that happening. Do we? He barely plays! StevO 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted January 18, 2022 Report Share Posted January 18, 2022 3 hours ago, Bailey said: Do we? He barely plays! Exactly and exactly why I'd sell him to anyone stupid enough to buy him. Brilliant character, occasionally decent defender, rarely a player. Romey 1878, StevO and Shukes 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuffRob Posted January 18, 2022 Report Share Posted January 18, 2022 10 hours ago, StevO said: Sell him in a heartbeat. No doubt we could get good money for him, he can then keep the medical staff company at Newcastle. But it needs to be the new managers decision. Quite like to keep him now as we have a potential relegation battle on our hands. if he stays fit we are a better team with him in than out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted January 18, 2022 Report Share Posted January 18, 2022 6 minutes ago, RuffRob said: Quite like to keep him now as we have a potential relegation battle on our hands. if he stays fit we are a better team with him in than out. He's been here 3 years? How long does he have to be injured for before people accept he's never fit! StevO 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted January 18, 2022 Report Share Posted January 18, 2022 17 minutes ago, Matt said: He's been here 3 years? How long does he have to be injured for before people accept he's never fit! Averaging twenty games a season in three and a half, it's not great is it? StevO 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC11 Posted January 18, 2022 Report Share Posted January 18, 2022 Streets ahead of every other CB at the club. His injury record is awful but if we can keeP him fit for the next 6 months he’ll be crucial in keeping us up. KEEP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted January 18, 2022 Report Share Posted January 18, 2022 1 minute ago, MC11 said: Streets ahead of every other CB at the club. His injury record is awful but if we can keeP him fit for the next 6 months he’ll be crucial in keeping us up. KEEP 100% with you if he can stay fit but it's a big if. StevO, MC11 and Matt 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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