Shukes Posted November 8, 2019 Report Share Posted November 8, 2019 2 hours ago, duncanmckenzieismagic said: No because it’s just a picture In all seriousness no it doesn’t because he has slid in from behind he traps Gomes ankle then the damage is done by the trailing leg Well you didn’t bite haha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted November 8, 2019 Report Share Posted November 8, 2019 3 hours ago, Palfy said: You are guilty of the outcome of your recklessness which is breaking his ankle. It’s like difference between murder and man slaughter isn’t it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted November 8, 2019 Report Share Posted November 8, 2019 10 minutes ago, Shukes said: It’s like difference between murder and man slaughter isn’t it? What you talking about Willis? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted November 8, 2019 Report Share Posted November 8, 2019 Manslaughter is actions that cause death unintentionally, through negligence or accident. where Murder is intentionally going out to kill. The two don’t share the same punishment. Which would you say Son is guilty of, intentionally setting out to break a leg, or endangering the person through negligence? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted November 8, 2019 Report Share Posted November 8, 2019 6 minutes ago, Shukes said: Which would you say Son is guilty of, intentionally setting out to break a leg, or endangering the person through negligence? Neither according to the FA. Johnsy, Shukes and Haiku 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted November 8, 2019 Report Share Posted November 8, 2019 16 minutes ago, Palfy said: What you talking about Willis? Who’s Willis by the way haha? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted November 8, 2019 Report Share Posted November 8, 2019 Just now, MikeO said: Neither according to the FA. That’s the bit I don’t get. If they remind the red, then surely the yellow stands? Mot sure if that’s a dumb loophole, a massive mistake by the FA, or a London club being treated differently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted November 8, 2019 Report Share Posted November 8, 2019 23 minutes ago, Shukes said: Manslaughter is actions that cause death unintentionally, through negligence or accident. where Murder is intentionally going out to kill. The two don’t share the same punishment. Which would you say Son is guilty of, intentionally setting out to break a leg, or endangering the person through negligence? I’m going to implement my right to remain silent and no comment . Like I said negligence is no defence he’s guilty of breaking Gomes ankle with a dirty challenge from behind, which should have stood as a 3 match ban, but some are trying to portray him as innocent of any wrongdoing, and even worse in my opinion actually feel sorry for him whilst Gomes is going through a nightmare for a footballer. For me justice has not been meted out even if yellow stood that wouldn’t be the correct punishment. Haiku 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finn balor Posted November 8, 2019 Report Share Posted November 8, 2019 22 minutes ago, Shukes said: Who’s Willis by the way haha? Palf is feeling old as we speak Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted November 8, 2019 Report Share Posted November 8, 2019 5 minutes ago, Finn balor said: Palf is feeling old as we speak Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted November 8, 2019 Report Share Posted November 8, 2019 10 minutes ago, Palfy said: I’m going to implement my right to remain silent and no comment . Like I said negligence is no defence he’s guilty of breaking Gomes ankle with a dirty challenge from behind, which should have stood as a 3 match ban, but some are trying to portray him as innocent of any wrongdoing, and even worse in my opinion actually feel sorry for him whilst Gomes is going through a nightmare for a footballer. For me justice has not been meted out even if yellow stood that wouldn’t be the correct punishment. No I get that mate. I don’t think he should be absolved at all. But as a human I do recognise that he must have been through a tough time as well. I know I would. I remember a lady I managed who had cancer (she lost that battle bless her) shouting at a women at work for complaining about a migraine. You can imagine the old “ what the fuck are you complaining about, I’m dying of cancer”. I had to take her away into my office and explain that her cancer isn’t stop the other ladies migraine from hurting. As much as I think Son should take responsibility for his actions, I don’t think he’s an evil James Bond villain. I also don’t believe an eye for an eye is the right way to go. If the injury hadn't happened, we wouldn’t complain at a yellow card at all. Cue the “but it did” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aidan Posted November 8, 2019 Report Share Posted November 8, 2019 4 hours ago, MikeO said: Only if you want to. If you're not careful I'll go all son on you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted November 8, 2019 Report Share Posted November 8, 2019 1 minute ago, Aidan said: If you're not careful I'll go all son on you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted November 8, 2019 Report Share Posted November 8, 2019 44 minutes ago, Shukes said: No I get that mate. I don’t think he should be absolved at all. But as a human I do recognise that he must have been through a tough time as well. I know I would. I remember a lady I managed who had cancer (she lost that battle bless her) shouting at a women at work for complaining about a migraine. You can imagine the old “ what the fuck are you complaining about, I’m dying of cancer”. I had to take her away into my office and explain that her cancer isn’t stop the other ladies migraine from hurting. As much as I think Son should take responsibility for his actions, I don’t think he’s an evil James Bond villain. I also don’t believe an eye for an eye is the right way to go. If the injury hadn't happened, we wouldn’t complain at a yellow card at all. Cue the “but it did” I agree with you mate, but it did as you said at that is why the reactions from a lot of people not just on here are so angry against Son, for a malicious foul that led to a horrendous injury and the inept way the FA later dealt with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete0 Posted November 8, 2019 Report Share Posted November 8, 2019 7 hours ago, duncanmckenzieismagic said: So if somebody had photographic evidence of you murdering someone, you would build your defence in court around “it’s just a picture” ? I'd show the video of the better angle showing I never. 5 hours ago, duncanmckenzieismagic said: No because it’s just a picture In all seriousness no it doesn’t because he has slid in from behind he traps Gomes ankle then the damage is done by the trailing leg It doesn't get trapped, Gomes steps in the trailing leg. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted November 8, 2019 Report Share Posted November 8, 2019 22 hours ago, duncanmckenzieismagic said: This is the entire point for me, whichever we you try and paint this his tackle , and those impacts, are the direct cause of Gomes injury. If he doesn’t deliberately set out to do Gomes ( and I’m very clear in this , Son’s intent was most definitely not to just trip Gomes ) then this injury doesn’t happen If he made the same tackle with the same consequences on Mo Salah or Kevin de Bruyne do you honestly think he would get away with it ? They aren't direct at all as Gomes' takes a step in between. Son would be guilty of bringing him down his ankle isnt injured until after he plants it into the ground whilst trying to stop himself going into Aurier. If Aurier isnt there I imagine Gomes runs on or at worst, falls down forwards and not doing the same injury. I don't care about who is happens to. The challenge warranted a foul and a booking regardless of whether it was Gomes, KDB or my nan. 9 hours ago, duncanmckenzieismagic said: He doesn’t , Son’s tackling foot goes over the top of Gomes’ foot and traps his ankle , then his trailing leg wipes him out His trailing leg doesn't "wipe him out". Stop taking stills and watch the video. 7 hours ago, Romey 1878 said: He was malicious though. Obviously not wanting to break Gomes’ leg but he’s not going to win the ball, he’s wanting to go in on him and leave a mark. That’s malicious as far as I’m concerned. I think you can see clearly from the picture above in respect of where his leg is that he hasn't gone to leave a mark. He would have gone into the side of his shin if he wanted to leave a mark, at least I would. He has gone for the trip and that's why his leg is in front. If he has gone to do him its a pretty shoddy attempt IMO. Matt and pete0 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted November 9, 2019 Report Share Posted November 9, 2019 Wasn’t a big part of the injury from the right back coming in too? Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finn balor Posted November 9, 2019 Report Share Posted November 9, 2019 I don’t care what anyone says son went in to leave something on him. He can’t be blameless over all this. That’s the annoying thing DavisJD 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cisk Posted November 10, 2019 Report Share Posted November 10, 2019 Im amazed and scared of the talk that Gomes could be back for the end of this season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted November 10, 2019 Report Share Posted November 10, 2019 55 minutes ago, Cisk said: Im amazed and scared of the talk that Gomes could be back for the end of this season It does seem very soon, but maybe it was a more repairable injury than first thought. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted November 11, 2019 Report Share Posted November 11, 2019 20 hours ago, Cisk said: Im amazed and scared of the talk that Gomes could be back for the end of this season i think it's just positive talk to appease Gomes and the fans. i doubt they are going to rush him back. just trying to make positive spin of the injury and situation Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibdane Posted November 27, 2019 Report Share Posted November 27, 2019 Can't help but love this man. https://twitter.com/Everton/status/1199659305068302336?s=09 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post MikeO Posted November 27, 2019 Popular Post Report Share Posted November 27, 2019 22 minutes ago, Sibdane said: Can't help but love this man. https://twitter.com/Everton/status/1199659305068302336?s=09 Longer version... Shukes, Palfy, Romey 1878 and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted November 27, 2019 Report Share Posted November 27, 2019 From an absolute turd of a season, a rose blooms. Just simply a great guy. Wiggytop and Palfy 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted November 27, 2019 Report Share Posted November 27, 2019 2 hours ago, Shukes said: From an absolute turd of a season, a rose blooms. Just simply a great guy. Well put, the guys an inspiration to us all. Wiggytop 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finn balor Posted November 27, 2019 Report Share Posted November 27, 2019 My son is nine and the world is a shitty place with these so called celebs. Andre is a special person and I would be proud for my son to have the humility and compassion that he has shown since day one at being at our club pete0, Shukes, markjazzbassist and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Wiggytop Posted November 28, 2019 Popular Post Report Share Posted November 28, 2019 8 hours ago, Finn balor said: My son is nine and the world is a shitty place with these so called celebs. Andre is a special person and I would be proud for my son to have the humility and compassion that he has shown since day one at being at our club Finn your absolutely right, but it’s up to us, the Parents to help give our kids the right moral compass, my lads 15 now, we’ve always tried to show him right and wrong, tell him what’s shallow and what’s important in life, we always bring food for the food bank to each game, I make him carry the bag, if he whinges cos it’s heavy, I remind him that what he is carrying is helping people less fortunate, and ask him if he’s ever gone hungry for more than a couple of hours. We always look out for Speedo Mick as well and drop some cash in his bucket, another great bloke IMO. Matt, markjazzbassist, Shukes and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haiku Posted November 28, 2019 Report Share Posted November 28, 2019 Make him a captain already Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finn balor Posted November 28, 2019 Report Share Posted November 28, 2019 4 hours ago, Wiggytop said: Finn your absolutely right, but it’s up to us, the Parents to help give our kids the right moral compass, my lads 15 now, we’ve always tried to show him right and wrong, tell him what’s shallow and what’s important in life, we always bring food for the food bank to each game, I make him carry the bag, if he whinges cos it’s heavy, I remind him that what he is carrying is helping people less fortunate, and ask him if he’s ever gone hungry for more than a couple of hours. We always look out for Speedo Mick as well and drop some cash in his bucket, another great bloke IMO. That’s lovely wiggly well done pal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Posted November 28, 2019 Report Share Posted November 28, 2019 Lots of love coming out in this thread, the minute he has several bad games the knives will come out and we want him sold. We are Everton and that's what we do. Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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