Cornish Steve Posted January 23, 2022 Report Share Posted January 23, 2022 3 minutes ago, Palfy said: I wanted him before Benitez got the job said so a few times if you care to look, and got shot down by everybody who cared to respond to my posts, unbelievably some of them are now possibly touting for him now, as long as you know there’s a hell of a lot of people on here with short memories Steve you can pretty much say what you want because it won’t be remembered, most can’t even remember what they said so to think there going to remember what you said isn’t going to happen Sorry - what was that you said? Palfy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted January 23, 2022 Report Share Posted January 23, 2022 1 minute ago, Cornish Steve said: You're quite right - and I omitted the word 'Prem' when I wrote that (spotted and changed it a minute later, but you were just too fast). I have to confess that, with age, I omit words all the time and have to go back and edit. I know the feeling, wisdom comes with age but concentration goes slightly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted January 23, 2022 Report Share Posted January 23, 2022 2 hours ago, Cornish Steve said: Another one who boasts of managing in China! The guy's record is poor, and it's scraping the barrel when a quoted highlight is being "Villas-Boas’s assistant". Not saying he is the man for the job but how can you say his record is poor ? 2 League titles and a super Cup with Porto Won the title and the Cup at Olympiakos Yes he went to China, which is a red flag admittedly, but unlike Benitez he was successful there as well ( won the league and cup) We’ve won fuck all in 25 years so I think his record looks pretty good in comparison tbh StevO 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted January 23, 2022 Report Share Posted January 23, 2022 12 minutes ago, duncanmckenzieismagic said: Not saying he is the man for the job but how can you say his record is poor ? 2 League titles and a super Cup with Porto Won the title and the Cup at Olympiakos Yes he went to China, which is a red flag admittedly, but unlike Benitez he was successful there as well ( won the league and cup) We’ve won fuck all in 25 years so I think his record looks pretty good in comparison tbh I don’t really have a view of him as a manager but it is a concern that it’s Kia Joorabchian (spelling?) pushing this one. We need him as far away as possible from this club but it seems he’s getting more comfortable by the day and that is a big worry. StevO, RuffRob and c1982 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c1982 Posted January 23, 2022 Report Share Posted January 23, 2022 4 minutes ago, Romey 1878 said: I don’t really have a view of him as a manager but it is a concern that it’s Kia Joorabchian (spelling?) pushing this one. We need him as far away as possible from this club but it seems he’s getting more comfortable by the day and that is a big worry. It’s very worrying - he seems corrupt as anything. Wasn’t he the man who pushed Iwobi onto Moshiri? That alone is enough to bring a relationship to an end… unless of course he can palm Iwobi off elsewhere… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted January 23, 2022 Report Share Posted January 23, 2022 10 minutes ago, c1982 said: It’s very worrying - he seems corrupt as anything. Wasn’t he the man who pushed Iwobi onto Moshiri? That alone is enough to bring a relationship to an end… unless of course he can palm Iwobi off elsewhere… He’s also behind the El Ghazi move. I understand it can be beneficial to be close to some of these super agents but there’s just something not right about this. Sibdane and Gwlad 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Romey 1878 Posted January 23, 2022 Report Share Posted January 23, 2022 He’s flying to England to sign the contract tomorrow apparently. Personally, I think this is the sort of appointment you make in the summer so if it goes tits up, like these sort of gambles can, it’s not utter ruin. As it is we’re already close to the point of no return… This is either going to be catastrophic or a master stroke… please be the latter! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Btay Posted January 23, 2022 Report Share Posted January 23, 2022 25 minutes ago, Romey 1878 said: He’s also behind the El Ghazi move. I understand it can be beneficial to be close to some of these super agents but there’s just something not right about this. Seriously I have no idea how a Moshiri has amassed such wealth if he allows himself to be influenced in the way he does by people around him. On the manager note - Most the names mentioned are no where near experienced enough for what needs to happen here. I like Martinez but it’s to hostile for him - he will need to start winning games from the start or else it will be horrible, way too risky. Niko Kovac is the best option in my opinion but Moshiri needs to stay out of the day to day running of the club and let him do his job. Unfortunately for us fans we may need accept mid table finished for the next few season while we re build some form stability. Romey 1878 and rtaylor91 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted January 23, 2022 Report Share Posted January 23, 2022 1 minute ago, Bailey said: Thanks, Bailey, I feel loads better now… Bailey 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c1982 Posted January 23, 2022 Report Share Posted January 23, 2022 Many outlets saying Perriera is almost done - only a contract to sign. If true, this fella needs to make an instant impact as I’m shitting myself about how badly this could end up. Going down is not an option with our £££ already and the commitment to the stadium. Maybe I’m overreacting but this seems really bad! Romey 1878 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted January 23, 2022 Report Share Posted January 23, 2022 https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vítor_Pereira_(footballer,_born_1968) Wikipedia page suggests this is our 3rd attempt to sign him. Subject the usual question marks with that site. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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MC11 Posted January 23, 2022 Author Report Share Posted January 23, 2022 12 minutes ago, Bailey said: He actually got Munich 21 points from 20 games. Although only a 30% win rate that would actually keep us up as we currently have more points than Munich did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC11 Posted January 23, 2022 Author Report Share Posted January 23, 2022 6 minutes ago, Romey 1878 said: Not sure on this guy. I know he sits in the main stands with the big boys but he seems very delayed with his stuff. He only talks when announcements are made elsewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted January 23, 2022 Report Share Posted January 23, 2022 https://readsouthampton.com/2016/06/11/vitor-pereira-the-perfect-fit/ A few years old now but this paints a more positive picture. The concerning aspects for me are how he regularly seems to bounce around football teams and what has happened since he was last successful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted January 23, 2022 Report Share Posted January 23, 2022 I've never had a Korean car, are Joorabchians any good? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Btay Posted January 23, 2022 Report Share Posted January 23, 2022 2 minutes ago, MikeO said: I've never had a Korean car, are Joorabchians any good? Unreliable, you get 18 months out of them and they cost a fortune to replace. Steer clear rtaylor91 and MikeO 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Gwlad Posted January 23, 2022 Report Share Posted January 23, 2022 8 minutes ago, MikeO said: I've never had a Korean car, are Joorabchians any good? Up there with Trabants according to Top Gear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted January 23, 2022 Report Share Posted January 23, 2022 Regardless of what you think about Pereira, and to some extent how well he does here, what a fucking state we are if Joorbachian is effectively running things. Romey 1878 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuffRob Posted January 23, 2022 Report Share Posted January 23, 2022 He is a name I am familiar with as I remember putting £50 on him at 40/1 before Martinez got the the job back in 2013. He was interviewed back then before Moshiri was involved in the club. He was again on the radar before we brought Silva in. Can't say his appointment is floating my boat now - his only job in a 'major' footballing country was in Germany (although in their second division) and it ended in relegation. just read he likes counter attacking type of football, so that would fit in with what Benitez was trying to get this squad doing, so in the very least it not a total change in direction or tactic with only half the season left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Bailey Posted January 23, 2022 Report Share Posted January 23, 2022 This did make me laugh... Until I realised this could be us in a few weeks time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted January 23, 2022 Report Share Posted January 23, 2022 I have done a fair bit of reading about Pereira and I think there is some hope about him. There is certainly some positives in his style of football and it sounds as though he has improved players under his management. There is also an element of Mourinho about him. He can be disruptive, he probably wont be particularly endearing to the fans and even if he comes in and is an early success, it looks like he wont be here for much longer than a couple of seasons. When the wheels fall of he doesn't seem to find a way to put them back on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted January 23, 2022 Report Share Posted January 23, 2022 17 minutes ago, Bailey said: I have done a fair bit of reading about Pereira and I think there is some hope about him. There is certainly some positives in his style of football and it sounds as though he has improved players under his management. There is also an element of Mourinho about him. He can be disruptive, he probably wont be particularly endearing to the fans and even if he comes in and is an early success, it looks like he wont be here for much longer than a couple of seasons. When the wheels fall of he doesn't seem to find a way to put them back on. Well no fucking use to us then the wheels have already come off. Bailey, Shukes and rtaylor91 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted January 23, 2022 Report Share Posted January 23, 2022 I thought I'd gone to bed and was in a nightmare reading this thread. Then I realised I'm hungry so must be awake... Chach 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornish Steve Posted January 24, 2022 Report Share Posted January 24, 2022 3 hours ago, duncanmckenzieismagic said: Not saying he is the man for the job but how can you say his record is poor ? 2 League titles and a super Cup with Porto Won the title and the Cup at Olympiakos Yes he went to China, which is a red flag admittedly, but unlike Benitez he was successful there as well ( won the league and cup) We’ve won fuck all in 25 years so I think his record looks pretty good in comparison tbh Exhibits 1 and 2: TSV 1860 Munich and Al Ahli Saudi. He was fired from Fenerbahce twice. Won the league with Shanghai, for sure, but what a pitiful league. He has no knowledge whatsoever about the Premier League. His appointment would likely become a farce. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DownUnderToff Posted January 24, 2022 Report Share Posted January 24, 2022 5 hours ago, Romey 1878 said: He’s also behind the El Ghazi move. I understand it can be beneficial to be close to some of these super agents but there’s just something not right about this. Neither El Ghazi nor Iwobi (unless he was previously) are a part of his stable, what's the benefit to this Kia in pushing someone else's players? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goodison Glory Posted January 24, 2022 Report Share Posted January 24, 2022 Sorry but what is the issue with this Kia dude? Was he the one who orchestrated the tevez/marcherano dodgy deal to West Ham or has he done something else sinister. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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