Hafnia Posted May 24 Report Share Posted May 24 1 hour ago, MikeO said: I agree, 26 goals over three PL seasons at Brighton for someone who's not an outright number nine is a decent return, 'specially in a team finishing 15th, 16th and 9th. We plainly don't play to his strengths but that doesn't mean he hasn't got any. He stated that he "can play out wide or as a number 10, but my favoured position is striker. I like to play down the middle and use my pace to get in behind defences" and "I'm used to looking after the ball and holding off defenders".[6 I’ve not seen any of that from him. Pace? None. Look after the ball? None. He scored most of his goals in the championship. 10 is his record in the prem as a striker for Brighton when they were scoring goals - put into context Dwight mcneil has 7 from left mid for us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted May 24 Report Share Posted May 24 15 minutes ago, Hafnia said: He stated that he "can play out wide or as a number 10, but my favoured position is striker. I like to play down the middle and use my pace to get in behind defences" and "I'm used to looking after the ball and holding off defenders".[6 I’ve not seen any of that from him. Pace? None. Look after the ball? None. He scored most of his goals in the championship. 10 is his record in the prem as a striker for Brighton when they were scoring goals - put into context Dwight mcneil has 7 from left mid for us. His favoured position is obviously not his best one. When Brighton were scoring goals? 121 over three seasons so just a smidge over one goal per game, not exactly prolific. McNeil has 14 PL goals in 169 career games, Maupay 27 in 129; I'm not talking purely about contibutions to us this season but value/strike rate over a career. Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted May 24 Report Share Posted May 24 2 hours ago, Goodison Glory said: It's also not a "nothing at all in the prem". Barring one season DCL hasn't done much better than one in 3 in any season. I'm not a maupay supporter, I don't want him in the team because clearly it's not worked, but to say "he's done nothing" is a touch exaggerated. Show me where I said he’s done nothing I said it’s not good imo. There are plenty of midfielders with more impressive stats than his, if good was ranked as B he’s a D below average. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted May 24 Report Share Posted May 24 18 minutes ago, MikeO said: His favoured position is obviously not his best one. When Brighton were scoring goals? 121 over three seasons so just a smidge over one goal per game, not exactly prolific. McNeil has 14 PL goals in 169 career games, Maupay 27 in 129; I'm not talking purely about contibutions to us this season but value/strike rate over a career. He scored 10 in a season for brighton. That’s his best, Brighton scored 39 goals. Admittedly they weren’t scoring goals. But 1 in 4 ratio as main striker. Dwight mcneil - a player who isn’t a striker, far less prolific career wise, has 7 for us of our 33 goals from the wing. my point being, maupay hasn’t done his job. As you will know I’m not one to judge strikers purely on goals, but he has been absolutely abysmal from a contribution perspective I do not want to see him start on Sunday, I genuinely think he’s one of the worst I’ve witnessed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted May 24 Report Share Posted May 24 1 hour ago, Hafnia said: 10 is his record in the prem as a striker for Brighton when they were scoring goals... 13 minutes ago, Hafnia said: He scored 10 in a season for brighton....Admittedly they weren’t scoring goals... Backing down? That's a first StevO and Newty82 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted May 24 Report Share Posted May 24 When Lampard brought Maupay in he bought him to score goals, the only other striker/forward in the team was DCL with a long term injury, I refuse to believe he was bought for any other reason than to get goals. So on the basis he hasn’t delivered how can he be classed as good his average returns for Brighton show that, he wasn’t a success before he came here and he has managed to drop even further since joining us. Wiggytop, Hafnia and Formby 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiggytop Posted May 24 Report Share Posted May 24 It’s not just his lack of goals that’s been disappointing, it’s his overall contribution, half arsed pressing, tracking back, tackles, Dom shows what we need ( when he’s available) Maupay just doesn’t come close IMO. Hafnia and Palfy 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gwlad all over Posted May 24 Report Share Posted May 24 5 hours ago, Cornish Steve said: Agreed, but some of the Maupay-bashing is over the top. I feel for him, just not up to the job we expected him to do. Please don't start him on Sunday though. Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted May 24 Report Share Posted May 24 2 hours ago, MikeO said: Backing down? That's a first I admit when wrong. It’s just not that often I am Romey 1878, Newty82 and Matt 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deacs Posted May 25 Report Share Posted May 25 3 hours ago, Hafnia said: I admit when wrong. It’s just not that often I am You sound just like my better half Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Romey 1878 Posted May 25 Popular Post Report Share Posted May 25 5 hours ago, Deacs said: You sound just like my better half Tell me she's a twat, without telling me she's a twat. Matt, KinL, Deacs and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Hafnia Posted May 25 Popular Post Report Share Posted May 25 6 hours ago, Deacs said: You sound just like my better half Mines just the same hahaha, I only come in here to feel like I can win an argument KinL, Newty82, Wall Writer and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newty82 Posted May 25 Report Share Posted May 25 3 hours ago, Hafnia said: Mines just the same hahaha, I only come in here to feel like I can win an argument It's all starting to make sense..... Romey 1878 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted May 25 Report Share Posted May 25 58 minutes ago, Newty82 said: It's all starting to make sense..... Shut up ya tool Newty82 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted May 27 Report Share Posted May 27 Maupay may be a striker, but he’s not a lone striker. For him to be effective he needs to be in a partnership. London Blue, Romey 1878, Matt and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted May 27 Report Share Posted May 27 6 hours ago, StevO said: Maupay may be a striker, but he’s not a lone striker. For him to be effective he needs to be in a partnership. I’m not going to argue with that it isn’t worth it, just to say why did Everton buy him when they had no other available strikers to partner him, and why did Lampard and now Dyche play him in that lone role. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted May 27 Report Share Posted May 27 7 hours ago, StevO said: Maupay may be a striker, but he’s not a lone striker. For him to be effective he needs to be in a partnership. So why did we sign him? I don’t get it. We needed a wide man/goal scorer. We didn’t play 442 with lampard. just a mess Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted May 27 Report Share Posted May 27 2 minutes ago, Hafnia said: So why did we sign him? I don’t get it. We needed a wide man/goal scorer. We didn’t play 442 with lampard. just a mess Played in the Premier League? Check. Scored in the Premier League? Check. Available? Check. No thought whatsoever given to if he actually fits how we/the manager want us to play. We're a rotten football club. Goodison Glory, Matt, Hafnia and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gwlad all over Posted May 27 Report Share Posted May 27 31 minutes ago, Hafnia said: So why did we sign him? I don’t get it. We needed a wide man/goal scorer. We didn’t play 442 with lampard. just a mess Panic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted May 27 Report Share Posted May 27 2 hours ago, Romey 1878 said: Played in the Premier League? Check. Scored in the Premier League? Check. Available? Check. No thought whatsoever given to if he actually fits how we/the manager want us to play. We're a rotten football club. I’ve sat through hours of watching baz and Andy the talent scout on toffeetv…. The names I’ve seen pulled out. Saliba, leao, but no, we have to buy off casts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted May 27 Report Share Posted May 27 Looks like we could get gyokeres now. Coventry lost. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornish Steve Posted May 28 Report Share Posted May 28 8 hours ago, Hafnia said: Looks like we could get gyokeres now. Coventry lost. Just arrived home after a 900-mile drive and read your message that Coventry lost. That meant Lutron won, so I rushed to read the news about it - only to read my distant cousin collapsed on the field after eight minutes. Thank goodness he was well enough in a hospital bed to celebrate their win. Hafnia, Aidan and Matt 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goodison Glory Posted May 28 Report Share Posted May 28 Sorry to hear about your cousin. delighted for Luton (and would've been for Cov also) - rather those clubs get promoted than usual yoyo clubs like boro, West Brom, Watford etc) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c1982 Posted May 28 Report Share Posted May 28 2 hours ago, Cornish Steve said: Just arrived home after a 900-mile drive and read your message that Coventry lost. That meant Lutron won, so I rushed to read the news about it - only to read my distant cousin collapsed on the field after eight minutes. Thank goodness he was well enough in a hospital bed to celebrate their win. Lockyer obviously- he’s been brilliant for them this season. Pretty sure he made Championship team of the season too. Fingers crossed on a healthy recovery - the videos of him after the game in hospital with his family looked encouraging. Cornish Steve 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c1982 Posted May 28 Report Share Posted May 28 10 hours ago, Hafnia said: Looks like we could get gyokeres now. Coventry lost. I’ve lots of talk that Wolves lead the race for him but I’ve also seen that Wolves need to sell a few to keep on the right side of FFP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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