AlbanyNYToffee Posted December 30, 2022 Report Share Posted December 30, 2022 Now is the time to find out if he can stay fit (ever) again. If he gets hurt we open the checkbook. If he doesn't we might just win a few games...and we hopefully still open the checkbook Would be so Everton to protect him in January, not sign cover and he gets hurt in early February. His career and our season are at risk of going off the rails, time to see what he and we are made of. Wiggytop 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Blue Posted December 30, 2022 Report Share Posted December 30, 2022 Not going to be an overly physical game and we are going to be playing on the counter so may be an ideal game to ease him in for 30 mins or so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted January 5 Report Share Posted January 5 Suffering from fatigue according to Frank. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted February 6 Report Share Posted February 6 As if to already hammer home the need for a striker which we have been promised would arrive in January window and didn't, DCL is doubtful for the Liverpool game, and we all witnessed the none starter in the 2nd half Maupay and what he will bring to the team. Jesus what a fucking mess this board and owner have got us into, 56 years of my life as devoted blue to end spending my golden years saddled with this bunch of incompetent cunts, please no one back them because you may find I will hunt you down RPG and Hafnia 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FairWooney Posted February 6 Report Share Posted February 6 is DCL a doubt? what issue did he have? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted February 6 Report Share Posted February 6 33 minutes ago, Palfy said: As if to already hammer home the need for a striker which we have been promised would arrive in January window and didn't, DCL is doubtful for the Liverpool game, and we all witnessed the none starter in the 2nd half Maupay and what he will bring to the team. Jesus what a fucking mess this board and owner have got us into, 56 years of my life as devoted blue to end spending my golden years saddled with this bunch of incompetent cunts, please no one back them because you may find I will hunt you down Exactly. But let’s make a defence for the board cos we didn’t go out and buy Andre ayew…… I said this numerous times, dcl is patched up and can’t train consecutively…. There is no way that we will have him for more than 60% of the remaining games based on the past 18 months. the club knew this in the summer, we were effectively left with rondon a few unproven kids and had to buy maupay. mismanagement. This could really cost us. RuffRob and Palfy 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted February 6 Report Share Posted February 6 2 minutes ago, FairWooney said: is DCL a doubt? what issue did he have? According to Dyche a repeat of his hamstring issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted February 6 Report Share Posted February 6 2 minutes ago, FairWooney said: is DCL a doubt? what issue did he have? He went off down tunnel. Tight hamstring. He’s completely out of balance physically. Not surprising to most. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuffRob Posted February 6 Report Share Posted February 6 https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/dominic-calvert-lewin-set-injury-26162569 And this will be our weakness until the end of the season. No real cover up front and DCL still not had a decent run of games to make me think he will get to the end of the season. My fear is this is what could take us down - Simms may well have an opportunity to test himself in a run of premier league games. This is my single biggest concern now, as I think we have the right manager for the task in hand. RPG 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted February 6 Report Share Posted February 6 9 minutes ago, RuffRob said: https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/dominic-calvert-lewin-set-injury-26162569 And this will be our weakness until the end of the season. No real cover up front and DCL still not had a decent run of games to make me think he will get to the end of the season. My fear is this is what could take us down - Simms may well have an opportunity to test himself in a run of premier league games. This is my single biggest concern now, as I think we have the right manager for the task in hand. This is the reason a few of us are banging our heads against a brick wall. A multi billion pound industry where staying in the premier league is almost a make or break for clubs with wage bills like ours and we went into the season with someone who looks injury plagued, a player who was too big to run, and a few academy players. we had not one bonafide reliable striker to back up dcl, Most other clubs have 4. Shocking. This is all on the financial mismanagement and decisions at board level. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornish Steve Posted February 6 Report Share Posted February 6 This may sound crazy, but I wonder whether there's value in pushing Onana even further up front. More than once, he was right there next to DC-L in the Arsenal box. Add Simms and we've have two big forwards to aim at. badaids 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuffRob Posted February 6 Report Share Posted February 6 53 minutes ago, Hafnia said: This is the reason a few of us are banging our heads against a brick wall. A multi billion pound industry where staying in the premier league is almost a make or break for clubs with wage bills like ours and we went into the season with someone who looks injury plagued, a player who was too big to run, and a few academy players. we had not one bonafide reliable striker to back up dcl, Most other clubs have 4. Shocking. This is all on the financial mismanagement and decisions at board level. no arguing with that. The people who run the club actually now have no right to expect anybody to be able to keep us up with one known crocked CF, one not suitable for purpose and other an untested academy player who had to be called back of his loan. Not even the option to bring one of your wider players in to cover as CF - because we don't have winger that score!!. This is the toughest league in the world and any manager needs the basic tools. This past month has been absolutely shocking, even by Everton spectacular miss management standards. Everybody knew we needed two or three additional offensive players in January, and the only business done is three more out the door in Gordon, Rondon and Cannon. This is simply staggering. It really is going to be set pieces that are going to have to be our bread and butter way of scoring, when we can get some decent headers of the ball in to the box. It would not surprise me come end of the season that a CB will be out highest scorer. Hafnia 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gwlad all over Posted February 6 Report Share Posted February 6 Simms is going to have to play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted February 6 Report Share Posted February 6 1 hour ago, Cornish Steve said: This may sound crazy, but I wonder whether there's value in pushing Onana even further up front. More than once, he was right there next to DC-L in the Arsenal box. Add Simms and we've have two big forwards to aim at. No. He’s a midfielder who can dominate, lose far too much by pushing him into a position he doesn’t play. Go up for set pieces etc but that’s it. London Blue 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aidan Posted February 6 Report Share Posted February 6 1 hour ago, Hafnia said: No. He’s a midfielder who can dominate, lose far too much by pushing him into a position he doesn’t play. Go up for set pieces etc but that’s it. That's exactly what I thought when we pushed Fellaini up top. It'll be interesting to see what Dyche does for the derby. It could be a really big chance for Simms who I'd imagine is already in the mold of a striker who Dyche prefers. Hopefully he can take his chance if he plays. I do think Dyche will stick with Oana, Gana and Doucoure in midfield. RPG and Quinn31 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goodison Glory Posted February 6 Report Share Posted February 6 5 minutes ago, Aidan said: That's exactly what I thought when we pushed Fellaini up top. It'll be interesting to see what Dyche does for the derby. It could be a really big chance for Simms who I'd imagine is already in the mold of a striker who Dyche prefers. Hopefully he can take his chance if he plays. I do think Dyche will stick with Oana, Gana and Doucoure in midfield. Let's pray Simms does a Cadamateri and scores in the derby. Palfy and Aidan 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted February 6 Report Share Posted February 6 2 hours ago, Goodison Glory said: Let's pray Simms does a Cadamateri and scores in the derby. I hope so too. I'd rather have Lilly Savage up front than Maupay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted February 6 Report Share Posted February 6 London Blue, StevO and Matt 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted February 6 Report Share Posted February 6 Poor Simms. Many wanted him to return and have a chance, he comes and no one even seems to class him as back up haha. Bailey 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aidan Posted February 6 Report Share Posted February 6 4 hours ago, Shukes said: Poor Simms. Many wanted him to return and have a chance, he comes and no one even seems to class him as back up haha. Hopefully that will give him fire in his belly Shukes 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuffRob Posted February 7 Report Share Posted February 7 I don't doubt he will get chances to play. If DCL got a problem, he might start againt the shite. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted February 7 Report Share Posted February 7 He has one hell of a shot on him, I've always felt he was our only worthy backup to DCL even before Rondon left , the we bought Maupay and he's still our number one backup, but by then we had already sent him out on loan and we played our first 5 games without a recognised striker/forward. Whether he has what it takes to make a name for himself in the PL is was it is now, the club fucked up it's opportunity to change that by not getting a striker in. We all knew DCL as an athlete is constantly injured and that hammy is playing up again. So step up Simms and show that you deserve your opportunity, I for one have belief in the lad to give a good account of himself, and he zero confidence in Maupay, to be honest I have seen much better Sunday league players than him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted February 9 Report Share Posted February 9 it’s not good this simms or Michael Keane at this rate. Maupay not enough presence Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Wall Writer Posted February 9 Report Share Posted February 9 Would you risk him for the derby, if it meant he misses more important games against teams in and around us in the coming weeks - i.e. Villa, Leeds? It's a hard one, because without him as a focal point we've proven to be very blunt in attack. You could see it even against Arsenal once he'd come off. Having said that, a win at Anfield could well see us leap frog out of the bottom three and would do wonders for confidence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted February 9 Report Share Posted February 9 He’ll play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RPG Posted February 9 Report Share Posted February 9 2 hours ago, Wall Writer said: Would you risk him for the derby, if it meant he misses more important games against teams in and around us in the coming weeks - i.e. Villa, Leeds? It's a hard one, because without him as a focal point we've proven to be very blunt in attack. You could see it even against Arsenal once he'd come off. Having said that, a win at Anfield could well see us leap frog out of the bottom three and would do wonders for confidence. I agree with you but its even more than that. Without him and his hold-up play the ball is always coming straight back at our midfield and defence and it upsets the entire balance of our team. We would resume the 'sideways and backwards' passing as there would be nobody reliable to pass to up front. Once again, it highlights the stupidity of not signing another quality striker pre season, never mind mid season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Btay Posted February 10 Report Share Posted February 10 6 hours ago, Hafnia said: it’s not good this simms or Michael Keane at this rate. Maupay not enough presence Would have laugh a bit if Keane runs out up top. Brings back the memories of Chris Samba playing striker for Blackburn! Hafnia 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msloan78 Posted February 10 Report Share Posted February 10 30 minutes ago, Btay said: Would have laugh a bit if Keane runs out up top. Brings back the memories of Chris Samba playing striker for Blackburn! Chris Sutton and Paul Warhurst vibes. Btay 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted February 10 Report Share Posted February 10 Michael Keane is a great finisher. Seen the footage of him at finch farm? StevO 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted February 10 Report Share Posted February 10 48 minutes ago, Hafnia said: Michael Keane is a great finisher. Seen the footage of him at finch farm? Didn't do too bad against Palace either. MikeO 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted February 10 Report Share Posted February 10 13 minutes ago, Matt said: Didn't do too bad against Palace either. He’s very tidy. I would honestly try him out in certain situations Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted February 10 Report Share Posted February 10 7 hours ago, Hafnia said: He’s very tidy. I would honestly try him out in certain situations Haf we have Simms who is a fantastic finisher and been coached all his career as a striker. Contemplating Keane just highlights further the shit we are in by not securing a striker last month, please mate I know you a lot better than that you are normally very tactically astute, but Keane up front Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted February 10 Report Share Posted February 10 11 minutes ago, Palfy said: Haf we have Simms who is a fantastic finisher and been coached all his career as a striker. Contemplating Keane just highlights further the shit we are in by not securing a striker last month, please mate I know you a lot better than that you are normally very tactically astute, but Keane up front I’m serious palf. Simms I would deffo go with but I’m also wary of the fact he could get destroyed before he starts. I’d have simms ahead of jean of course but Keane has to be in the mix cos of the situation we are in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted February 10 Report Share Posted February 10 12 minutes ago, Hafnia said: I’m serious palf. Simms I would deffo go with but I’m also wary of the fact he could get destroyed before he starts. I’d have simms ahead of jean of course but Keane has to be in the mix cos of the situation we are in. Before you stick Keane up front you would go for 5 or 6 others in Simms Onana Gray Iwobi and yes even Maupay and possibly Doucoure before Keane. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted February 10 Report Share Posted February 10 11 hours ago, Hafnia said: Michael Keane is a great finisher. Seen the footage of him at finch farm? The best finisher at the club from those videos. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted February 10 Report Share Posted February 10 3 hours ago, Palfy said: Before you stick Keane up front you would go for 5 or 6 others in Simms Onana Gray Iwobi and yes even Maupay and possibly Doucoure before Keane. You’ve deffo not seen the finishing sessions from finch farm. Unreal, Keane was clinical. Not joking. here’s Townsend talking about it. https://tbrfootball.com/andros-townsend-makes-surprising-claim-about-everton-defender/?amp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted February 17 Report Share Posted February 17 https://www.theguardian.com/football/2023/feb/16/everton-assess-dominic-calvert-lewins-physiological-history-after-latest-injury Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted February 17 Report Share Posted February 17 I’ve been a big fan of Dominic since he arrived here. I’ve always believed in his ability and been a lot more confident in the team sheet when his name is on it. But, even I have limits…. And I’m at mine. We can’t rely on him to come back for and raring to go and it’s having a real adverse effect on team. We need to plan the team from now without him. If he comes back, he will either be an addition or a decent sale. But we have to build the team without him now. Sibdane and Wiggytop 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted February 17 Report Share Posted February 17 8 minutes ago, Shukes said: I’ve been a big fan of Dominic since he arrived here. I’ve always believed in his ability and been a lot more confident in the team sheet when his name is on it. But, even I have limits…. And I’m at mine. We can’t rely on him to come back for and raring to go and it’s having a real adverse effect on team. We need to plan the team from now without him. If he comes back, he will either be an addition or a decent sale. But we have to build the team without him now. We needed to build our team without him last year when it was abundantly clear that he either couldn’t or wouldn’t put 100% in to his game. the fact we didn’t do anything says everything about where we are right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted February 17 Report Share Posted February 17 22 minutes ago, Hafnia said: We needed to build our team without him last year when it was abundantly clear that he either couldn’t or wouldn’t put 100% in to his game. the fact we didn’t do anything says everything about where we are right now. That’s pretty obvious Haf and has been talked about to death mate. We don’t want to turn every thread into a board bash. Even if it is 100% justified. I’m talking about the player himself in isolation as I don’t know if he will ever be back to normal. Talent wise I like the player and would love him to just become fit and healthy again. But I’m not sure if it’s psychological with him or not. Wiggytop, AlbanyNYToffee, Newty82 and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted February 17 Report Share Posted February 17 1 hour ago, Shukes said: That’s pretty obvious Haf and has been talked about to death mate. We don’t want to turn every thread into a board bash. Even if it is 100% justified. I’m talking about the player himself in isolation as I don’t know if he will ever be back to normal. Talent wise I like the player and would love him to just become fit and healthy again. But I’m not sure if it’s psychological with him or not. But you are stating that you are only just realising the negative impact his lack of fitness is having on the team. It’s been evident for ages and we plugged that with Richarlison who having been sold left us with no one viable, This complete lack of organisation and accountability has pretty much put us favourites to be 3rd team to go down. AlbanyNYToffee 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted February 17 Report Share Posted February 17 8 minutes ago, Hafnia said: But you are stating that you are only just realising the negative impact his lack of fitness is having on the team. It’s been evident for ages and we plugged that with Richarlison who having been sold left us with no one viable, This complete lack of organisation and accountability has pretty much put us favourites to be 3rd team to go down. I’m not stating that at all Haf, now where does it say that. Im saying I have been backing him as I believe in his talent and believed he would regain his fitness. Where now I am losing faith that he will ever be fit again. Honestly don’t think the board are doing anything to injure him, or doing anything to prevent him from getting fit. Not in my wildest imagination would I believe that to be true. The board replacing him, buying back up, buying cover is another story that’s being discussed in every thread…. And to be Frank is the reason why a lot have stopped posting. Not because they don’t agree or don’t believe it…. But because we can’t have a discussion without it being brought up. I know we on TT tend to make a joke about changing threads ect, but it can also be demoralising when you can’t be bothered to post as you expect it somehow to be turned into a board thread. Come on Haf. Can’t we just have a conversation StevO and Newty82 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted February 17 Report Share Posted February 17 23 minutes ago, Shukes said: I’m not stating that at all Haf, now where does it say that. Im saying I have been backing him as I believe in his talent and believed he would regain his fitness. Where now I am losing faith that he will ever be fit again. Honestly don’t think the board are doing anything to injure him, or doing anything to prevent him from getting fit. Not in my wildest imagination would I believe that to be true. The board replacing him, buying back up, buying cover is another story that’s being discussed in every thread…. And to be Frank is the reason why a lot have stopped posting. Not because they don’t agree or don’t believe it…. But because we can’t have a discussion without it being brought up. I know we on TT tend to make a joke about changing threads ect, but it can also be demoralising when you can’t be bothered to post as you expect it somehow to be turned into a board thread. Come on Haf. Can’t we just have a conversation Yeah we can but sadly literally every thread can be linked to the board and mismanagement of the club. That’s how far reaching their actions are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibdane Posted February 17 Report Share Posted February 17 4 hours ago, Shukes said: I’ve been a big fan of Dominic since he arrived here. I’ve always believed in his ability and been a lot more confident in the team sheet when his name is on it. But, even I have limits…. And I’m at mine. We can’t rely on him to come back for and raring to go and it’s having a real adverse effect on team. We need to plan the team from now without him. If he comes back, he will either be an addition or a decent sale. But we have to build the team without him now. Same boat over here. It’s been a long time since he’s been fit, and we’ve only seen what feels like glimpses over the last year or so, maybe longer. When he does play it feels like he has to be subbed every time. I like him as a player overall, but he’s not going to reach the potential once expected of him, in my opinion. I see him as another Andy Carroll type unfortunately. Shukes 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlbanyNYToffee Posted February 17 Report Share Posted February 17 On 30/12/2022 at 14:35, AlbanyNYToffee said: Now is the time to find out if he can stay fit (ever) again. If he gets hurt we open the checkbook. If he doesn't we might just win a few games...and we hopefully still open the checkbook Would be so Everton to protect him in January, not sign cover and he gets hurt in early February. His career and our season are at risk of going off the rails, time to see what he and we are made of. F***. Newty82 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gwlad all over Posted February 17 Report Share Posted February 17 Unfortunately he's made of china. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted February 17 Report Share Posted February 17 2 hours ago, Gwlad all over said: Unfortunately he's made of china. Probably stamped on his arse made in China. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newty82 Posted February 18 Report Share Posted February 18 Gutted about this. Big fan of the lad and what he can offer. I know the articles just now talk about physiological issues, could be right. But I think it's more pyschological. Dyche and Co need to find way without him as he isn't going to get up to playing much. But then he always has a threat in him...aka Crystal Palace. Shukes and Wiggytop 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plaidharper Posted February 27 Report Share Posted February 27 Do we think he will play another game before the end of the season? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted February 27 Report Share Posted February 27 I would like to think he will play another 6 or 7, but how long is a piece of string is probably the real answer. . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gwlad all over Posted February 27 Report Share Posted February 27 1 hour ago, Palfy said: I would like to think he will play another 6 or 7, but how long is a piece of string is probably the real answer. . Can't see regular 90 minutes though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aidan Posted February 27 Report Share Posted February 27 It's getting harder and harder to not write his career off. All the more reason we needed to sign forwards in the summer, and then again in January. Think we need to cut our loss in the summer and get whatever we can for him in the window. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted February 27 Report Share Posted February 27 22 minutes ago, Gwlad all over said: Can't see regular 90 minutes though. Unfortunately not. But fingers crossed he seems to be our only real chance of getting some regular goals, as no one else seems capable of stepping up to the mark. And then Moshiri and his merry men (and woman) can sell him in the summer and go out and buy another couple of Maupay's. The cycle will never change with this owner and board. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wall Writer Posted February 28 Report Share Posted February 28 I think this thread should be moved to the "General Football and Sport Discussion" section with all the other retired players. Hafnia and Palfy 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted March 9 Report Share Posted March 9 At least we know he's in full training with the team now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Goodison Glory Posted March 12 Report Share Posted March 12 I wouldn't play him next week either. We have a bit of a break after next week...give him another 2 weeks and get him right for the run in. Shukes, Palfy and Fosse Captain 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Blue Posted March 12 Report Share Posted March 12 Maybe on the subs bench, I think 20 minutes or so could be useful or hi recovery. Shukes and Matt 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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