Romey 1878 Posted January 21, 2018 Report Share Posted January 21, 2018 11 hours ago, duncanmckenzieismagic said: I do feel sorry for him , he is being asked to do a job week in week out that he is blatantly not capable of doing He is the worst RB defensively I’ve ever seen but at least when he plays in his normal position he offers something going forward because on his right foot he can put a decent cross in . By playing him on the left you take away his only good attribute and he becomes a complete waste of a jersey He's being made to look worse because we don't have a left-footed winger either. In turn he makes the winger look worse because he can't go on the overlap and wants to come inside on his right foot too. It's slowing us down so much, and is a vicious circle. If just one of them on that side was left-footed we'd be a lot better. Instead, it's two-fold. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddock Posted January 22, 2018 Report Share Posted January 22, 2018 I’m not sure how much longer I can go on watching this fella- he is a truly awful football player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyblue23 Posted January 22, 2018 Report Share Posted January 22, 2018 9 hours ago, Paddock said: I’m not sure how much longer I can go on watching this fella- he is a truly awful football player. It looks like we have to go on until mid-February unless Sam decides to do the right thing and register Garbutt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted January 22, 2018 Report Share Posted January 22, 2018 It looks like we have to go on until mid-February unless Sam decides to do the right thing and register Garbutt.Failing that we should register the Toffee Lady, willing to try anything if it means we don’t have to see Coco “playing” there nyblue23 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elston Gunnn Posted January 22, 2018 Report Share Posted January 22, 2018 One of the signal advantages of going 3 at the back is that any 3 of Keane, Jagielka, Williams, Holgate, and even Kenny is likely to be a less-bad-option than any 4 including Martina. Earlier in the season I referred to him as NoLeftFootWhatsoever, but actually with practice he does occasionally use his left foot. Not a lot, just occasionally, and opponents know he wants to get it on his right, so going forward he's rarely effective. Much, much more damaging is his legs-confused defending. To be fair, he's been put in a horrible position (pun intended, I guess) by the club's transfer-market incompetence. I imagine he knows what's being said about him and has been told by Allardyce to work on improving. But everyone knows, including Martina, that he's not a LB and never will be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyblue23 Posted January 22, 2018 Report Share Posted January 22, 2018 46 minutes ago, Elston Gunnn said: One of the signal advantages of going 3 at the back is that any 3 of Keane, Jagielka, Williams, Holgate, and even Kenny is likely to be a less-bad-option than any 4 including Martina. Earlier in the season I referred to him as NoLeftFootWhatsoever, but actually with practice he does occasionally use his left foot. Not a lot, just occasionally, and opponents know he wants to get it on his right, so going forward he's rarely effective. Much, much more damaging is his legs-confused defending. To be fair, he's been put in a horrible position (pun intended, I guess) by the club's transfer-market incompetence. I imagine he knows what's being said about him and has been told by Allardyce to work on improving. But everyone knows, including Martina, that he's not a LB and never will be. He's not a RB, either, at least at any level above an American middle school recess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted February 1, 2018 Author Report Share Posted February 1, 2018 Just catching up in the match thread, but no one gave him credit for winning the ball back for the first goal. StevO 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted February 1, 2018 Report Share Posted February 1, 2018 Just catching up in the match thread, but no one gave him credit for winning the ball back for the first goal. Yeah he did well , I was screaming at him not to make the foul at the time! Also deserves credit for his goal line clearance , still shit though! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted February 1, 2018 Author Report Share Posted February 1, 2018 16 minutes ago, duncanmckenzieismagic said: Yeah he did well , I was screaming at him not to make the foul at the time! Also deserves credit for his goal line clearance , still shit though! Well, I still wouldn't go that far. But, he was instrumental in the win in helping creating a goal, and preventing one. Didn't see the game so I can't say more, but those 2 incidents at least deserve some praise (the goal line clearance did in fairness) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted February 1, 2018 Report Share Posted February 1, 2018 Just now, Matt said: Well, I still wouldn't go that far. But, he was instrumental in the win in helping creating a goal, and preventing one. Didn't see the game so I can't say more, but those 2 incidents at least deserve some praise He still had his Chuckle brother moments but he had more good moments for a change. StevO 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted February 1, 2018 Author Report Share Posted February 1, 2018 Just now, Romey 1878 said: He still had his Chuckle brother moments but he had more good moments for a change. Always going to playing in a shit team, with no one supporting in front of him, in the wrong position, disliked by fans and not the best player at the best of times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiggytop Posted February 1, 2018 Report Share Posted February 1, 2018 37 minutes ago, Matt said: Just catching up in the match thread, but no one gave him credit for winning the ball back for the first goal. What was he doing on the right wing though ? Highlights on MOTD didn't show how he got there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted February 1, 2018 Author Report Share Posted February 1, 2018 5 minutes ago, Wiggytop said: What was he doing on the right wing though ? Highlights on MOTD didn't show how he got there. Dunno Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyblue23 Posted March 2, 2018 Report Share Posted March 2, 2018 https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.hitc.com/en-gb/2018/02/28/martina-wants-to-become-as-good-as-everton-teammate-coleman/ Haha. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted March 2, 2018 Report Share Posted March 2, 2018 1 hour ago, nyblue23 said: https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.hitc.com/en-gb/2018/02/28/martina-wants-to-become-as-good-as-everton-teammate-coleman/ Haha. They say you should shoot for the stars nyblue23 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibdane Posted March 2, 2018 Report Share Posted March 2, 2018 While I don't think Martina is that great of a player, I admire his humble nature. He's kind of a Niasse to me where I know he's not really at this level, but I feel good when he does something good. His work-rate has improved tremendously. Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted March 2, 2018 Report Share Posted March 2, 2018 6 hours ago, nyblue23 said: https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.hitc.com/en-gb/2018/02/28/martina-wants-to-become-as-good-as-everton-teammate-coleman/ Haha. "The 28-year-old lined-up alongside Ireland international Coleman in defence on Saturday as the Toffees suffered a narrow 1-0 loss to Javi Gracia's Watford at Vicarage Road." Cunningly disguised as Jonjoe Kenny. Bailey, Shukes and nyblue23 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quinn31 Posted March 3, 2018 Report Share Posted March 3, 2018 11 hours ago, tonkaroost said: While I don't think Martina is that great of a player, I admire his humble nature. He's kind of a Niasse to me where I know he's not really at this level, but I feel good when he does something good. His work-rate has improved tremendously. This. Can't fault the lad. He's been trying all season, he just clearly belongs in the Championship or in the Dutch League or something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted March 3, 2018 Report Share Posted March 3, 2018 I think people are very hard on him. There are are a whole boat if players much worse than him that make a living in the premier league. He is clearly good enough to play in this league.... as he simply does. Managers pick him and picked him before he came here. He may be unfancied bybus and he isn’t the player to take us to the next step. But he is performing better than many senior pros in our team.... and for that I give him credit. Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted March 3, 2018 Report Share Posted March 3, 2018 He clearly isn'tt good enough to get us to were we want to go but I'm not going hurl a tirade of abuse at him for being picked and trying his best, there are more than him in that category, in fact I would say more than half the current squad are batting above their station. Which brings me on to Gana! No I won't go there he's the favourite of to many and this is the wrong thread. Shukes 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plaidharper Posted March 10, 2018 Report Share Posted March 10, 2018 Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Louis Posted August 17, 2018 Report Share Posted August 17, 2018 He's joined Stoke on loan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted August 17, 2018 Report Share Posted August 17, 2018 gotta be better than that turd glen johnson at RB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyblue23 Posted August 17, 2018 Report Share Posted August 17, 2018 I’ve been one of his loudest opponents on this forum, but in all fairness to the guy, he’s probably a league average RB. He just had absolutely no business being on the left side. MikeO 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoo 2.0 Posted August 17, 2018 Report Share Posted August 17, 2018 Are they going to reimburse the fans that had Cuco Martina shirts printed for this season? Heard both of them are livid. Shukes and MikeO 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted August 17, 2018 Report Share Posted August 17, 2018 25 minutes ago, Zoo 2.0 said: Heard both of them are livid. As many as that!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newty82 Posted August 17, 2018 Report Share Posted August 17, 2018 51 minutes ago, Zoo 2.0 said: Are they going to reimburse the fans that had Cuco Martina shirts printed for this season? Heard both of them are livid. Had me then....until you said 'both'! Think he'll do well down in the Champ. More that level. I never thought he was that bad defensively but is not cut out for the role of a modern Premiership full back...especially playing on his opposite side. Another player made to look worse than he is by our poor policies of last season. Seems a great pro though. markjazzbassist 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornish Steve Posted August 17, 2018 Report Share Posted August 17, 2018 1 hour ago, Zoo 2.0 said: Are they going to reimburse the fans that had Cuco Martina shirts printed for this season? Heard both of them are livid. I’m sure he can afford buying his mum and dad replacement shirts. nyblue23 and Matt 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted August 17, 2018 Report Share Posted August 17, 2018 probably the only prem player playing for curacao i would imagine a few people on that island have the kit and good for them they should be proud. true professional who people on here loved to make the punching bag, sad really, was an alright defender, he doesn't deserve the abuse he gets. Shukes and pete0 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted August 17, 2018 Report Share Posted August 17, 2018 He is a very average defender (putting it nicely) who doesnt seem to want to defend. Decent enough crosser of the ball though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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