RuffRob Posted October 17, 2020 Report Share Posted October 17, 2020 not getting send off for the VVD incident could be a massive decision for Pickford. If he got send off (and he was probably an offside decision away from walking today!!) , Olsen gets pretty much gets at least two full game to stake his claim to be our starting keeper. Given Pickford's mistakes so far this year plus the sending off, if Olsen made a decent fist of the two game Pickford almost gifted him, then Pickford becomes our No.2, and who knows when he gets a chance to be no.1 again. England knock on effects. Not getting a red card today is massive for Pickford!!! Instead of getting sent off, he makes a couple of decent saves - particularly the save that kept it at 1:2 which kept us in the game. After that save I was really hoping that we equalised (not that I wasn't hoping for it anyway), but more so purely to give that second half save more importance and value. I have been big Pickford critic, but I still want to see him do well, so please he will have came off the pitch today feeling like he has earn him coin. Let's hope the VVD let off is a turning point in his Everton career and we all end up talking more about great saves rather than mistakes!!. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Hafnia Posted October 17, 2020 Popular Post Report Share Posted October 17, 2020 I do hope our fans are classy about VVD .... I know they sang songs about Coleman and his leg break but we are better than them. Matt, markjazzbassist, MC11 and 5 others 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted October 17, 2020 Report Share Posted October 17, 2020 2 hours ago, Romey 1878 said: And VVD has done his ACL apparently. That's enough to keep him as our number one until the summer for me . Could have single handedly won us the league with that challenge markjazzbassist, SpartyBlue, Palfy and 1 other 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted October 17, 2020 Report Share Posted October 17, 2020 21 minutes ago, Hafnia said: I do hope our fans are classy about VVD .... I know they sang songs about Coleman and his leg break but we are better than them. Reading some of the comments I wouldn’t hold your breath. dunlopp9987 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted October 17, 2020 Report Share Posted October 17, 2020 29 minutes ago, Hafnia said: I do hope our fans are classy about VVD .... I know they sang songs about Coleman and his leg break but we are better than them. I’m sure no one actually wants harm to come to anyone, and I wouldn’t be singing songs about it, but I’ll take anything against them. Not being classy this time. SpartyBlue, Hafnia and Romey 1878 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aidan Posted October 17, 2020 Report Share Posted October 17, 2020 31 minutes ago, Hafnia said: I do hope our fans are classy about VVD .... I know they sang songs about Coleman and his leg break but we are better than them. What does classy mean? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted October 17, 2020 Report Share Posted October 17, 2020 33 minutes ago, Aidan said: What does classy mean? I was being sarcastic. But generally we do have a higher level of class and integrity about us. StevO 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aidan Posted October 17, 2020 Report Share Posted October 17, 2020 34 minutes ago, Hafnia said: I was being sarcastic. But generally we do have a higher level of class and integrity about us. Absolutely. Seen JP has been getting death threats on twitter... Says it all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cisk Posted October 17, 2020 Report Share Posted October 17, 2020 6 hours ago, Romey 1878 said: And VVD has done his ACL apparently. That's enough to keep him as our number one until the summer for me . Dont wish this to any player mate Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted October 17, 2020 Report Share Posted October 17, 2020 32 minutes ago, Cisk said: Dont wish this to any player mate I don’t believe I did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpartyBlue Posted October 18, 2020 Report Share Posted October 18, 2020 The next game at Anffield is gonna have some build up, particularly if we can stay up near the top of the league. I agree with the sentiment that we should always be classy in terms of injuries to opposing players. If we do not act any better then we aren’t any better. nutmegwolf203 and Matt 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted October 18, 2020 Report Share Posted October 18, 2020 9 hours ago, Hafnia said: I do hope our fans are classy about VVD .... I know they sang songs about Coleman and his leg break but we are better than them. We need a song that Gerry and the Pacemakers would have been proud of, to good of an opportunity to miss Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c1982 Posted October 18, 2020 Report Share Posted October 18, 2020 22 hours ago, Aidan said: Absolutely. Seen JP has been getting death threats on twitter... Says it all. He’s going to have to be very ‘blinkered’ and have the right people around him as he’s going to get absolute dogs abuse for a long, long time by those vile (and I’m not saying all Liverpool fans are vile) fans. Richarlison has already had to take his apology tweet down for all the racist abuse he’s received. When it comes to things like this, it’s one rule for them and another for everyone else - they won’t let this go. Hopefully Pickford keeps his head down and cracks on - the lockdown may actually work in his favour. I dread to think of the abuse he’ll get at the return fixture should fans be back by then. nutmegwolf203, Romey 1878, pete0 and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted October 18, 2020 Report Share Posted October 18, 2020 Shows the real side to Liverpool “fans” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post c1982 Posted October 18, 2020 Popular Post Report Share Posted October 18, 2020 Carragher knows what’s coming next for Pickford. Sadly, opinions like Souness calling it an assault will be what makes the headlines. StevO, pete0, Matt and 4 others 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post RuffRob Posted October 18, 2020 Popular Post Report Share Posted October 18, 2020 Seems like Pickford is currently enemy No. 1 in the media. It like there is a competion to see who can voice the most 'disgusted' they are with the tackle. A unnessasay frenzy is being whipped up. It was a bad tackle and unfortunatly a player got hurt, it happens. There was no malise or retrobution in that tackle, it was a under pressure keeper desperatley trying to stop a second goal. Fair do's to Carra for being one of the only level heads in the media. Wiggytop, StevO, nutmegwolf203 and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted October 18, 2020 Report Share Posted October 18, 2020 The club need to do a collective arms round his shoulders job here. I've had my say on his goalkeeping but I'm not having him thrown to the wolves to appease that baying bunch of fuckwits. Jimmy case ended an Everton players career years ago and was unapologetic about it the little angry dwarf. Fair play to Carragher.... The red shite have turned on him cos he never passed the death sentence on Pickford like Alan "kick Lennon in the face" shearer, or Graham "stamp on a players but sack" souness and try and do Dwight Yorke whilst being his manager. Wiggytop, Palfy and Btay 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuffRob Posted October 18, 2020 Report Share Posted October 18, 2020 4 minutes ago, Hafnia said: The club need to do a collective arms round his shoulders job here. I've had my say on his goalkeeping but I'm not having him thrown to the wolves to appease that baying bunch of fuckwits. Jimmy case ended an Everton players career years ago and was unapologetic about it the little angry dwarf. Fair play to Carragher.... The red shite have turned on him cos he never passed the death sentence on Pickford like Alan "kick Lennon in the face" shearer, or Graham "stamp on a players but sack" souness and try and do Dwight Yorke whilst being his manager. Some pundit are comparing 4 minutes ago, Hafnia said: The club need to do a collective arms round his shoulders job here. I've had my say on his goalkeeping but I'm not having him thrown to the wolves to appease that baying bunch of fuckwits. Jimmy case ended an Everton players career years ago and was unapologetic about it the little angry dwarf. Fair play to Carragher.... The red shite have turned on him cos he never passed the death sentence on Pickford like Alan "kick Lennon in the face" shearer, or Graham "stamp on a players but sack" souness and try and do Dwight Yorke whilst being his manager. Some pundits are even comparing it to Roy Keane's Harrland tackle. WTF. Pure sensationalisum by some. Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Palfy Posted October 18, 2020 Popular Post Report Share Posted October 18, 2020 7 minutes ago, Hafnia said: The club need to do a collective arms round his shoulders job here. I've had my say on his goalkeeping but I'm not having him thrown to the wolves to appease that baying bunch of fuckwits. Jimmy case ended an Everton players career years ago and was unapologetic about it the little angry dwarf. Fair play to Carragher.... The red shite have turned on him cos he never passed the death sentence on Pickford like Alan "kick Lennon in the face" shearer, or Graham "stamp on a players but sack" souness and try and do Dwight Yorke whilst being his manager. 100% with you on this, it’s becoming tribal now and I know what tribe I belong to, and it’s not one that echoes the shit coming from the red side of Liverpool. Btay, Romey 1878, pete0 and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drs1972 Posted October 18, 2020 Report Share Posted October 18, 2020 https://www.givemesport.com/1609122-liverpool-fan-planning-to-protest-against-everton-result-and-get-jordan-pickford-banned?autoplay=on lololol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Btay Posted October 19, 2020 Report Share Posted October 19, 2020 Hate seeing any player get injured myself. Regardless of what their supporters do or are willing to say it’s wrong to take any joy from others players injury. Had that been the other way around on James I think we would be furious. Horrible tackle, can accept it’s part of football and wish VVD a full recovery. Standing firmly behind Jordan here though because no matter what I think of his keeping abilities, one of ours is not getting thrown the wolves. Gwlad and Shukes 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post StevO Posted October 19, 2020 Popular Post Report Share Posted October 19, 2020 We’ve seen enough big injuries to our players over the years, McCarthy, Coleman, Gomes. The only time I’ve ever thought there was malice was Son, and I don’t think even he expected to hurt Gomes so much. We didn’t form a lynch mob and half of the press demand retrospective action. It was quite the opposite. I don’t for one minute think Jordan was trying to hurt him, accidents happen in contact sport. When Carragher is the voice of reason we are all in trouble. Seems you can do what you want to Everton, but you can’t hurt a Liverpool player. Romey 1878, markjazzbassist, London Blue and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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London Blue Posted October 19, 2020 Report Share Posted October 19, 2020 1 hour ago, StevO said: We’ve seen enough big injuries to our players over the years, McCarthy, Coleman, Gomes. The only time I’ve ever thought there was malice was Son, and I don’t think even he expected to hurt Gomes so much. We didn’t form a lynch mob and half of the press demand retrospective action. It was quite the opposite. I don’t for one minute think Jordan was trying to hurt him, accidents happen in contact sport. When Carragher is the voice of reason we are all in trouble. Seems you can do what you want to Everton, but you can’t hurt a Liverpool player. Its double standards, after Son injured Gomes, all the media were sympathising with Son and how all this impacted him. When Pickford inures Van Dijk commentators are ready to form lynch mobs. Yes it was a bad and reckless challenge, but there was no intent from Pickford, it was an unfortunate sporting incident. Pickford should have been sent off, but he was not, we lucked out, and lets face it were were due some luck after we have been on the wrong end of so many decisions. Its a damn tragedy that Van Dijk was injured and I hope he comes back stronger. I hope people remember it was an accident and treat Pickford the same way they treated Son. And we must be a family to him while this hate show runs its course. Wiggytop, StevO, Cornish Steve and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted October 19, 2020 Report Share Posted October 19, 2020 As expected, it has been confirmed he won't face any action. Even if they'd looked into it I don't think any further action should have been made anyway. Cue the further fume from their mutant fans though. StevO and markjazzbassist 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete0 Posted October 19, 2020 Report Share Posted October 19, 2020 Completely agree that reckless challenges should have a harsher penalty but Pickford's wasn't reckless. You'd think as a keeper he'd be supporting him. To say Lucas Neill's challenge was the worst he's ever seen just proves he's a kopite. It's fucking awful but I've seen worse. https://www.skysports.com/watch/video/sports/football/12108163/should-bans-match-length-of-injury-lay-offs Mark Bosnich thinks punishments should be harsher for footballers who inflict a serious injury on an opponent due to reckless play Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gwlad Posted October 19, 2020 Report Share Posted October 19, 2020 3 hours ago, London Blue said: Its double standards, after Son injured Gomes, all the media were sympathising with Son and how all this impacted him. When Pickford inures Van Dijk commentators are ready to form lynch mobs. Yes it was a bad and reckless challenge, but there was no intent from Pickford, it was an unfortunate sporting incident. Pickford should have been sent off, but he was not, we lucked out, and lets face it were were due some luck after we have been on the wrong end of so many decisions. Its a damn tragedy that Van Dijk was injured and I hope he comes back stronger. I hope people remember it was an accident and treat Pickford the same way they treated Son. And we must be a family to him while this hate show runs its course. Son wasn't thrown to the wolves because we have class, even Gomes acknowledged that these tackles happen. Sure some fans had immediate reaction to our players comforting Son but that was heat of the moment stuff. markjazzbassist and Matt 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Blue Posted October 19, 2020 Report Share Posted October 19, 2020 27 minutes ago, Gwlad all over said: Son wasn't thrown to the wolves because we have class, even Gomes acknowledged that these tackles happen. Sure some fans had immediate reaction to our players comforting Son but that was heat of the moment stuff. Thats my point, both players didn't set out to hurt the other player. Its double standards because Pickford is being vilified by the media, where Son was supported. Matt and MikeO 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted October 19, 2020 Report Share Posted October 19, 2020 Gonna be honest as an American I didn’t see as much of the bias. But after this incident it’s clear it’s us against the world. Thankfully we have a great squad manager and owner so I think we are well positioned. But this has really opened my eyes. I hope the lads enjoy their backs against the wall and use it to motivate them. COYB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted October 19, 2020 Report Share Posted October 19, 2020 Their fans are being investigated by the police now for death threats against Pickford and Richarlison. Hafnia, StevO and markjazzbassist 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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