Palfy Posted October 29, 2017 Report Share Posted October 29, 2017 There not shit we are thanks to the shit sisters Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted October 29, 2017 Report Share Posted October 29, 2017 2 minutes ago, Paddock said: They are fucking dreadful- they’ve continuously given us the ball back all fucking game and we haven’t the slightest clue what to do with it. A decent side whallops these today. They’ve been piss poor- especially second half. If any side gives them a 2 nil lead they are going to win 95% of the time because they were really organised. The problem is you can't give them 2 goals and allow them to dig in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete0 Posted October 29, 2017 Report Share Posted October 29, 2017 1 minute ago, Bailey said: Today shows the negative of a young inexperienced manager. I admire him for wanting to play the right way but this is probably the wrong team at the wrong time to be bold. If you want to play on the front foot, slow aging center backs are always going to be a problem, especially against a counter attacking team with lots of pace. At the start of the season you can chalk it off as one of those things but we are in a relegation scrap and are desperately low on confidence and we can't afford to keep dropping points. I'd guess not many teams set out like Leicester at u23 level. Naive from Unsworth but against any team bar Leicester in the league we will do better with this set up than Koeman's, just need to fuck Gana off to make it work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubecula Posted October 29, 2017 Report Share Posted October 29, 2017 Christ we are shit No skill no pace no goals no hope no morale. We have nothing Steve_E 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted October 29, 2017 Report Share Posted October 29, 2017 1 minute ago, yamar said: Ye, he's gone now haf. Stop banging on about him. Whilst ya raking up the past, why don't ya mention the fact that the one player you hated was sold and now we're shit. Koeman gone.... let's stop banging on about him.... let's start banging on about someone else who's gone? Lukaku would do fuck all for our current woes.... unless of course he was responsible for defence and midfield.... cos thats where the issues are.... probably cause more issues for us the rate he lost the fookin ball. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sev Posted October 29, 2017 Report Share Posted October 29, 2017 Not an easy game for Unsworth. And we should back him up, ok. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 29, 2017 Report Share Posted October 29, 2017 Just now, hafnia said: Koeman gone.... let's stop banging on about him.... let's start banging on about someone else who's gone? Lukaku would do fuck all for our current woes.... unless of course he was responsible for defence and midfield.... cos thats where the issues are.... probably cause more issues for us the rate he lost the fookin ball. You know, I know and everyone on this forum knows haf that this is not true and he made a world of difference in our side. Get a goal out of nothing. Just don't burn your lips on that humble pie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted October 29, 2017 Report Share Posted October 29, 2017 4 minutes ago, pete0 said: I'd guess not many teams set out like Leicester at u23 level. Naive from Unsworth but against any team bar Leicester in the league we will do better with this set up than Koeman's, just need to fuck Gana off to make it work. Agreed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 29, 2017 Report Share Posted October 29, 2017 We don't have one midfielder who drives forward with the ball. Davies, Gana, Morgan etc all look what's to the side of them all the fucking time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted October 29, 2017 Report Share Posted October 29, 2017 Koeman may have gone but the devastation he's left behind will remain for months to come Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nogs Posted October 29, 2017 Report Share Posted October 29, 2017 I still think Unsworth needs time but I was expecting a result one of the last two games. We're in a mess, it will take a few weeks to get us organised on the pitch. But the lack of quality in our squad is a major worry. I just can't believe how far backwards we've gone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milesey05 Posted October 29, 2017 Report Share Posted October 29, 2017 hate to say it but we need to concentrate on staying up!!! Back to basics and just survive this season. Unsworth has the heart but today showed heart isn't enough. That wasn't good today full stop. We still didn't look like scoring 2nd half. Maybe Big Sam wouldn't be such a bad thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted October 29, 2017 Report Share Posted October 29, 2017 15 minutes ago, yamar said: You know, I know and everyone on this forum knows haf that this is not true and he made a world of difference in our side. Get a goal out of nothing. Just don't burn your lips on that humble pie. Out of nothing??? Last time I looked 90%+ of his goals were pass conversions inside the box..... hardly out of nothing but you keep up with that illusion. One player we miss? Barkley. A player who can run with the ball through the middle breaking between lines. That is what we miss. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chicagoblue Posted October 29, 2017 Report Share Posted October 29, 2017 Hard to come up with any positives from that. In the first half we were far too open but at least had some width. In the second we set out to close up the midfield, which we did, but at the cost of our width and attack. Sending crosses in from deep was a complete was of time and we haven't got anyone who can pick passes through the middle. I do think we need to just go with two up front and attack hell for leather, at least try it in Europe where there pressure is off now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted October 29, 2017 Report Share Posted October 29, 2017 Utter shite. No one up top that makes their defence ancy. That's what we're missing with Rom gone, his presence and his goals. Rooney needs to play with the u23s again so he can learn how to pass Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newty82 Posted October 29, 2017 Report Share Posted October 29, 2017 Another gutting result. It's going to be tough to find a balance with this squad. That formula which both protects the backline and offers something going forward. When you're down, you need some luck. A shitty own goal and a rejected clear penalty. You either get that bit if luck or continue to get kicked in the balls. It's frustrating but there are some good things to take from that game, mostly the 2nd half. But we have to show that performance from the off, which is difficult when you are shot of confidence. I can only remember 1 actual proper chance to score. That's a huge problem. We really need to find a way to create more clear cut chances. Onto the next one. Shukes 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted October 29, 2017 Report Share Posted October 29, 2017 We are in deep, deep shit. rubecula 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted October 29, 2017 Report Share Posted October 29, 2017 3 minutes ago, Matt said: Utter shite. No one up top that makes their defence ancy. That's what we're missing with Rom gone, his presence and his goals. Rooney needs to play with the u23s again so he can learn how to pass Do you think a defender looks and says "ah it's only DCL".... Morgan used to put Rom in his back pocket with regularity..... We miss Barkley- big time. He created more chances than de bruyne, silva, coutinho last year.... just sayin. It's chances we aren't creating. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted October 29, 2017 Report Share Posted October 29, 2017 4 minutes ago, hafnia said: Do you think a defender looks and says "ah it's only DCL".... Morgan used to put Rom in his back pocket with regularity..... We miss Barkley- big time. He created more chances than de bruyne, silva, coutinho last year.... just sayin. It's chances we aren't creating. Yes, that's exactly what I think. Would I be more comfortable playing against a kid who doesn't score, or a proven goal scorer (who was the last player of ours to score against them) Agree with the rest. MikeO 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted October 29, 2017 Report Share Posted October 29, 2017 1 minute ago, Matt said: Yes, that's exactly what I think. Would I be more comfortable playing against a kid who doesn't score, or a proven goal scorer (who was the last player of ours to score against them) Agree with the rest. Got nothing to do with comfort. Lukaku only scores when he gets space. Barkley created shit loads of space as he would run through the lines at the defence which meant one had to step out = space. We would be better with him no doubt as we need a finisher but he's not the main reason we care struggling... far from it imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted October 29, 2017 Report Share Posted October 29, 2017 1 minute ago, hafnia said: Got nothing to do with comfort. Lukaku only scores when he gets space. Barkley created shit loads of space as he would run through the lines at the defence which meant one had to step out = space. We would be better with him no doubt as we need a finisher but he's not the main reason we care struggling... far from it imo. I'm not saying he's the main reason, but he's a lot bigger reason than you'll give him credit for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Posted October 29, 2017 Report Share Posted October 29, 2017 We are in a mess, I never do like us signing players over 30 but was willing to give Rooney a chance to show me a reason why we did sign him. So short of pace, underhit passes, and those that are hit properly usually go to the apposing players, plays so deep he's usually behind the CDMs. Time to blood in Siggy, Klaasen, Sandro and Vlasic, it's not working for the kids or Rooney. Steve_E, markjazzbassist and Quinn31 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post c1982 Posted October 29, 2017 Popular Post Report Share Posted October 29, 2017 As they said on Sky, “It’s easier to tighten up than score more goals...” We need to get back to basics and keep a few clean sheets, even if it means a few 0-0 scorelines and boring football away from home - maybe nick the odd result by 1. The reality is, we carry on like this then we could be left adrift in the bottom 3. We’re not going to score many with the players available so we need to plug the leaky defence. MikeO, Shukes, Romey 1878 and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted October 29, 2017 Report Share Posted October 29, 2017 Rooney is a huge problem for any manager. It's not easy to drop him, and he does things in games that make you want him to play (arguably creating our 2 best chances) but at the same time creating a whole host of other problems. If he was injured today we would have played with 3 in midfield and plugged the holes like we did against Chelsea and it would have been a different game. barryj 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Formby Posted October 29, 2017 Report Share Posted October 29, 2017 Hard to believe summer’s optimism has so quickly faded. The managerial prospects look as bleak as winter, the players largely bereft of appetite and, criminally, ability. No point looking back and blaming the transfer window now; we have to salvage what’s rest of the season and that means cutting a lot of the players loose and trying to stay up. We are not playing like a team that can save itself. Early, maybe, but I can’t think of a team that is playing worse than us. I like Unsworth as a person, and he’s Everton through and through, but that’s not enough to keep him on. I would get rid of Williams, Jagielka, Baines, Mirallas, Rooney, one of Gana / Schneiderlin, buy a quality CB and LB (young, fast, mobile) in January, obviously a CF, pray that Barkley comes back wanting to play, that Coleman is able to play, take DCL out of the first team, keep the energy players (Vlasic, Lookman). I wouldn’t get rid of Klaasen and Sandro – too early to tell – and I think Keane is better than he looks. Ditto Holgate. The future has to be about recruiting youth and speed. We could also do with having a younger version of Barry in the middle of the park, somebody who can pull the strings. As regards a manager, we’re really, really stuck. We need an experienced guy who players would want to play for. That’s not Sean Dyche. I hope Moshiri and Walsh can pull something out of the hat in January, because we need them to. Desperately. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sideliner Posted October 29, 2017 Report Share Posted October 29, 2017 This is the worst I have seen Everton play since the last Moyes year. This side looks totally lost. They play like an average Championship side. Far too many young and inexperienced players in key positions. We need a proper striker, someone playing the proper nr 10 role, new left and right back and some proper gamebreaker on defensive mid. Mirallas on the left wing, (he would also be a better striker than Calvert-Lewin) Sirgudson at nr 10, and Roony as impact player from the bench, playing just behind the striker. Lookman or Vlasic on right wing. And a new manager please, urgently!!. What about Brendon Rogers? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted October 29, 2017 Author Report Share Posted October 29, 2017 Missed the first half. Typical Everton we can’t even get the new manager boost for a result. Not it sure why ron and unsy keep with Rooney, he’s shit and needs to be banished to cup matches. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete0 Posted October 29, 2017 Report Share Posted October 29, 2017 Don't get the Rooney hate, we should have scored thanks to a perfectly weighted through ball from him. The team should have scored thanks to him, and he played no part in us conceding. Gana and DCL were the reasons we never got anything from today, not helped by Unsworth's tactics. Swap Gana and go from there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornish Steve Posted October 29, 2017 Report Share Posted October 29, 2017 There were some positives (and I only saw the second half). We hustled to win back the ball, with two or three players swarming every time. It worked often. The issue, of course, is that we shouldn't be giving the ball away in the first place. There's real desire in some of the players: Jagielka, DC-L, Niasse in particular. Others have lost that desire (or maybe ability): Baines (sadly) is one of them. We dominated possession in the second half, and Leicester had no opportunities save from our obvious mistakes. We just need to take advantage of that possession. Personally, I think one of the main problems right now is knowing what to do with Wayne Rooney. I honestly wonder whether his contract specifies he must play a minimum number of games, because he doesn't deserve to start. He gives the ball away so often and drifts way back time and again. I'm with Haf on this: Koeman has really done a number on this team, and it's going to take time to recover. Unsworth needs until at least the end of the year to make a significant difference. The recovery will be slow but steady. And we need a bit of good luck and to be awarded obvious penalties. Things like that have an impact on morale when you're down. Shukes and Matt 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finn balor Posted October 29, 2017 Report Share Posted October 29, 2017 I was working today. The first goal was a joke. Who was busting a gut to get back after gray walzted around everyone? Rooney. He is getting hated because he is a name. We are proper shite. Get used to it. We are in a battle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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