duncanmckenzieismagic Posted March 4, 2018 Report Share Posted March 4, 2018 Would it have been audible to allardyce? Was the likes of moshiri there?No idea whether or not Moshiri or Kenwright were there but there could be absolutely no way that anyone in the ground could have been in any doubt whatsoever what we thought of his substitutions or the overall ineptitude of his or the teams second half performance Burnley and Everton fans joining in the sacked in the morning chants will also have helped Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c1982 Posted March 4, 2018 Report Share Posted March 4, 2018 21 minutes ago, Palfy said: Can anybody find the email addresses of Moshiri,Kenwright,Walsh and Allardyce so we can constantly send them our messages of discontent. I know where Shakespeare lives so could put together a hamper to pass on! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornish Steve Posted March 4, 2018 Report Share Posted March 4, 2018 Let's set a target of 1,000 signatures a day until he's gone...https://www.ipetitions.com/petition/remove-sam-allardyce-as-manager-of-everton Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted March 4, 2018 Report Share Posted March 4, 2018 So now we're 11th seven points off the relegation zone, when Sam took over we were 13th five points off the zone. If it hadn't been for a decent December (before he'd managed to get his style bedded in?) we'd be on our way down, no question. I'm still extremely worried that we will go down, 34 points ain't going to keep us up and I can't see where the next one's coming from. Desperate times, me and Josh turned the game off after they equalised yesterday because we knew what was coming. Old enough to have been through some very tough patches in the past but this is the worst I've felt; how in the fuck has the huge optimism of last summer come to this? It makes no sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted March 4, 2018 Report Share Posted March 4, 2018 I think the home form is just about good enough for a couple of wins and a draw Mike. I want him gone, as soon as possible, but I want a replacement lined up first. None of this crap like we had last time, weeks and weeks without a manager and a caretaker in charge. Unsworth isn’t the answer, he’s not good enough. To even consider him based on having similar stats to Sam is crazy. We need better than that, now I don’t know who that is, but it’s not my job to. I’d much rather see Sam stay for another month, and in that time see a new experienced CEO put in place, or Denise given the role and a chance to be a part of moving the club forward. Then replace the people underneath, not too arsed about Walsh as I still don’t know what his role consists of so I can’t judge him on it. We need a new manager, it needs to be a long term replacement and he needs to have a plan. No more wasting money on random players and see what happens. We need a long term plan with a short term strategy to improve the first team. We have the core of what could be a good team, maybe four key additions would be enough to improve us without the massive change we had in the summer and keep some stability. Change needs to happen, but it needs to be planned, not knee jerk. Newty82 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted March 4, 2018 Report Share Posted March 4, 2018 2 hours ago, Cornish Steve said: Let's set a target of 1,000 signatures a day until he's gone...https://www.ipetitions.com/petition/remove-sam-allardyce-as-manager-of-everton Signed.... let's get signing folks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted March 4, 2018 Report Share Posted March 4, 2018 I've signed don't think there publish my comments though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted March 4, 2018 Report Share Posted March 4, 2018 Wasn’t so long ago people thought a petition would be laughed at. Wonder what the reaction will be this time... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted March 4, 2018 Report Share Posted March 4, 2018 14 minutes ago, Matt said: Wasn’t so long ago people thought a petition would be laughed at. Wonder what the reaction will be this time... Needs must Matt. This bloke is an absolute horror. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nogs Posted March 4, 2018 Report Share Posted March 4, 2018 Moshiri sacked Martinez for finishing 11th. The way the rest of the league is anything below 7th should be seen as a failure. On current form we'll be lucky to hold onto 11th. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nogs Posted March 4, 2018 Report Share Posted March 4, 2018 2 hours ago, StevO said: I think the home form is just about good enough for a couple of wins and a draw Mike. I want him gone, as soon as possible, but I want a replacement lined up first. None of this crap like we had last time, weeks and weeks without a manager and a caretaker in charge. Unsworth isn’t the answer, he’s not good enough. To even consider him based on having similar stats to Sam is crazy. We need better than that, now I don’t know who that is, but it’s not my job to. I’d much rather see Sam stay for another month, and in that time see a new experienced CEO put in place, or Denise given the role and a chance to be a part of moving the club forward. Then replace the people underneath, not too arsed about Walsh as I still don’t know what his role consists of so I can’t judge him on it. We need a new manager, it needs to be a long term replacement and he needs to have a plan. No more wasting money on random players and see what happens. We need a long term plan with a short term strategy to improve the first team. We have the core of what could be a good team, maybe four key additions would be enough to improve us without the massive change we had in the summer and keep some stability. Change needs to happen, but it needs to be planned, not knee jerk. Agree with most of this, but I'd rather have Unsworth back in charge while plans for next season are done properly than have another minute under Allardyce. MikeO and barryj 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 4, 2018 Report Share Posted March 4, 2018 I'd take wenger on a two year deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted March 4, 2018 Report Share Posted March 4, 2018 Moshiri has to know the contempt the fans have for Allardyce if this means by signing a petition so be it. If he doesn't take notice then he needs to be careful that contempt won't belong in heading his way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gwlad Posted March 4, 2018 Report Share Posted March 4, 2018 I haven't had the heart to post till now but agree with all the sentiments as I've supported this club since I was a teenager. I've seen the highs and lows but this is the lowest of lows and I can't be bothered to defend us any more....sad times. MikeO 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornish Steve Posted March 4, 2018 Report Share Posted March 4, 2018 5 hours ago, hafnia said: Signed.... let's get signing folks. We’re up to 28. Let’s share with friends and build some momentum. If we reach 1,000, I shall forward the link to media outlets so they can read the comments. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornish Steve Posted March 4, 2018 Report Share Posted March 4, 2018 3 hours ago, nogs said: Agree with most of this, but I'd rather have Unsworth back in charge while plans for next season are done properly than have another minute under Allardyce. Right now, Unsworth’s record is the best of the three. More importantly, he was clearly beginning to make a difference. There was belief in the team. We’ll never know how well he would have done if he’d not had an air of uncertainty hanging over his head. I say give him the remaining games to see how he does. No top manager would look twice at us right now, so let’s be realistic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c1982 Posted March 4, 2018 Report Share Posted March 4, 2018 5 minutes ago, Cornish Steve said: We’re up to 28. Let’s share with friends and build some momentum. If we reach 1,000, I shall forward the link to media outlets so they can read the comments. You need to get it onto Twitter somehow - a couple of retweets and it could be seen by tens of thousands. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornish Steve Posted March 4, 2018 Report Share Posted March 4, 2018 3 minutes ago, c1982 said: You need to get it onto Twitter somehow - a couple of retweets and it could be seen by tens of thousands. I don’t have a twitter account. Can others post the link there? In the meantime, I shall create an account and post it there too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted March 4, 2018 Report Share Posted March 4, 2018 9 hours ago, Romey 1878 said: Some of the things I'm currently hearing from our fans is actually tough to read and hear. This is the saddest thing. I have never seen Everton fans so apathetic. When things went tits up under Martinez at least people were angry. Koeman/Walsh/Allardyce have ripped the soul out of this club and it has all started since we became able to pay like the big boys. Mercenary managers with no real philosophy, signing mercenary players who don't give a shit. I would happily go back to not having a pot to piss in as long as the soul of this club remained (and we didn' go under!). Matt, Shukes and Gwlad 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted March 4, 2018 Report Share Posted March 4, 2018 Only just seen this but it’s spot on Chach 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted March 4, 2018 Report Share Posted March 4, 2018 5 minutes ago, Bailey said: This is the saddest thing. I have never seen Everton fans so apathetic. When things went tits up under Martinez at least people were angry. Koeman/Walsh/Allardyce have ripped the soul out of this club and it has all started since we became able to pay like the big boys. Mercenary managers with no real philosophy, signing mercenary players who don't give a shit. I would happily go back to not having a pot to piss in as long as the soul of this club remained (and we didn' go under!). Well they do say money doesn't make you happy, and by fuck we have proved it Moshiri has money that is clear but when it comes to spending it in the football world he's clueless. Matt and Bailey 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted March 4, 2018 Report Share Posted March 4, 2018 6 minutes ago, Palfy said: Well they do say money doesn't make you happy, and by fuck we have proved it Moshiri has money that is clear but when it comes to spending it in the football world he's clueless. It's as if we completely forgot what got us to where we were when we got some money. Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted March 5, 2018 Report Share Posted March 5, 2018 8 hours ago, Bailey said: It's as if we completely forgot what got us to where we were when we got some money. Exactly we have always earned the right. Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddock Posted March 5, 2018 Author Report Share Posted March 5, 2018 On 04/03/2018 at 12:15, Matt said: @Paddock so you think he's doing a good job then? Who- Moshiri or Allerdyce? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted March 5, 2018 Report Share Posted March 5, 2018 52 minutes ago, Paddock said: Who- Moshiri or Allerdyce? Moshiri Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seve Posted March 5, 2018 Report Share Posted March 5, 2018 I fully understand all the doom and gloom, but there is no way we will go down one win will do it, and as bad as we are there is a lot worse below us. But this man has to go i dont understand why its not happened yet, we have got to start planing for next season now. nutmegwolf203 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Paddock Posted March 5, 2018 Author Popular Post Report Share Posted March 5, 2018 2 hours ago, Matt said: Moshiri I think he’s put his money where his mouth is- I think he’s cleared the debt , I think he’s delivered a stadium. I also think he’s trusted the people who he thinks know more about football than he doeswith the money he promised and they’ve pissed the lot up the wall. Matt, Newty82, StevO and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quinn31 Posted March 5, 2018 Report Share Posted March 5, 2018 59 minutes ago, Paddock said: I think he’s put his money where his mouth is- I think he’s cleared the debt , I think he’s delivered a stadium. I also think he’s trusted the people who he thinks know more about football than he doeswith the money he promised and they’ve pissed the lot up the wall. On paper, Steve Walsh and Ronald Koeman were very good hires - it's the lack of structure and plan that both were given and the subsequent mess created that was a problem. The only thing that Moshiri has clearly done wrong is potentially a panic sacking of Koeman and the subsequent lack of plan that allowed us to go a month before hiring a new manager, which was a panic hire and clearly not the man to lead this club forward. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted March 5, 2018 Report Share Posted March 5, 2018 1 hour ago, Paddock said: I think he’s put his money where his mouth is- I think he’s cleared the debt , I think he’s delivered a stadium. I also think he’s trusted the people who he thinks know more about football than he doeswith the money he promised and they’ve pissed the lot up the wall. This. I think Moshiri has suffer d from those around him, rather than his own decisions. He has moved us forward and have us a platform, but then been let down by his scouting and coaching staff. pete0 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Hafnia Posted March 5, 2018 Popular Post Report Share Posted March 5, 2018 Moshiri has a lot of parallels with Lerner at villa. Both investing heavily in the club... albeit to managers who squandered it. Moshiri to be fair recruited managers and DoFwho had proven themselves. He backed them.... imagine the wrong manager under kenwright and our limited cash availability??? Relegation for certain. That is why moyes got such a long - well paid gig for treating water in the also rans. I would sooner be in a position where a chairman was hiring backing and firing rather than sticking with someone who gets us to the comfort of 7th place on a shoestring for 10 years. At least we are having a go. We just look completely invaded by the wrong people at the moment. We need Everton back. Matt, Lowensda, pete0 and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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