MC11 Posted January 16, 2022 Report Share Posted January 16, 2022 4 minutes ago, Bailey said: I didnt really notice much of a difference to be honest other than Gomes being a real mixed bag of a footballer. Our midfield performance was just as bad against Hull. That’s got a lot to do with it being a 2 man midfield and ever other team playing a 3. Romey 1878, StevO, Wiggytop and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted January 16, 2022 Report Share Posted January 16, 2022 18 minutes ago, MC11 said: That’s got a lot to do with it being a 2 man midfield and ever other team playing a 3. Completely agree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted January 16, 2022 Report Share Posted January 16, 2022 56 minutes ago, Bailey said: I didnt really notice much of a difference to be honest other than Gomes being a real mixed bag of a footballer. Our midfield performance was just as bad against Hull. I noticed a massive difference. I think Allan is the type one f player that makes others look good. Gomes for one has looked good since he came back, but yesterday I thought he was a bit of a ghost. Same for Doucs, he usually is a bit of a general, but without Allan doing the dirty work, he looked quiet. But we do all see the game a different way. (only difference is you are all wrong ) Bailey, Matt, StevO and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted January 16, 2022 Report Share Posted January 16, 2022 34 minutes ago, Shukes said: I noticed a massive difference. I think Allan is the type one f player that makes others look good. Gomes for one has looked good since he came back, but yesterday I thought he was a bit of a ghost. Same for Doucs, he usually is a bit of a general, but without Allan doing the dirty work, he looked quiet. But we do all see the game a different way. (only difference is you are all wrong ) I dunno. Gomes looked crap against Hull and he was again yesterday against a better and more organised team. I don't think Allan made him look any better. I like parts of Allan's game, he does a lot of dirty work but he gets caught out too easily (especially in a 2 man midfield) and whilst he has a pass in him, he lacks quality on the ball. Personally I think he needs Doucoure more than Doucoure needs him. Chuck a technical all round player in alongside them and you have a really solid central midfield that teams will struggle to get past. Matt and StevO 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted January 16, 2022 Report Share Posted January 16, 2022 1 hour ago, Bailey said: I dunno. Gomes looked crap against Hull and he was again yesterday against a better and more organised team. I don't think Allan made him look any better. I like parts of Allan's game, he does a lot of dirty work but he gets caught out too easily (especially in a 2 man midfield) and whilst he has a pass in him, he lacks quality on the ball. Personally I think he needs Doucoure more than Doucoure needs him. Chuck a technical all round player in alongside them and you have a really solid central midfield that teams will struggle to get past. Got to hope the new guy sees this and puts a three man midfield in there. Bailey, Btay and Newty82 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Btay Posted January 17, 2022 Report Share Posted January 17, 2022 On 17/01/2022 at 02:45, StevO said: Got to hope the new guy sees this and puts a three man midfield in there. I understand that none of us are experts but how on earth did Rafa not see this. We set ourselves up constantly for the counter but we can’t defend. 3 man midfield - control the ball and cover the defence, let the 3 up front do their thing and Doucoure freedom to support them. Romey 1878 and StevO 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornish Steve Posted January 18, 2022 Report Share Posted January 18, 2022 2 hours ago, Btay said: I understand that none of us are experts but how on earth did Rafa not see this. We set ourselves up constantly for the counter but we can’t defend. 3 man midfield - control the ball and cover the defence, let the 3 up front do their thing and Doucoure freedom to support them. I just did a search and counted, and I've written this 26 times at these forums - so I might as well say it again: Games are won and lost in midfield. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted March 18, 2022 Report Share Posted March 18, 2022 We're appealing the red card. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seve Posted March 18, 2022 Report Share Posted March 18, 2022 Its strange when a decision is made for the most blatant hand ball ever, the ref is not asked to review it. When the ref gives a decision for a yellow, he is asked to review, and changes it to red. We had a complaint in last year about decisions made against us and we were given an apology. Every man and his dog apologised over the hand ball decision, made no difference we lost a point and nothing changed. I think someone from board level has to get into the FA or Prem league and sort this out, its not bad luck, its a directive from someone on high, and it needs challenging. Matt, Romey 1878, London Blue and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patto Posted March 18, 2022 Report Share Posted March 18, 2022 1 hour ago, RPG said: I believe we are appealing it 'twice!' First, we are saying it should never have been a Red. Second, if the appeal is unsuccessful we are appealing the 3 game ban and asking for only one. In my opinion our second appeal weakens the chances of our first appeal being successful. It will be a typical fudged compromise. The Red will stand and the ban will be one or two games. As it stands it’s a 3 game suspension Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted March 18, 2022 Report Share Posted March 18, 2022 If its a red, it has to be 3 games IMO. If its not violent conduct then it shouldnt ve a red in the first place. That second appeal just seems silly but its worth a go as he is so important to us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted March 18, 2022 Report Share Posted March 18, 2022 1 hour ago, Romey 1878 said: We're appealing the red card. https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/60797968 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted March 18, 2022 Report Share Posted March 18, 2022 They will stand by the ref and thats it.... the ineptitude and corruption at the top is a joke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted March 18, 2022 Report Share Posted March 18, 2022 Didn't they tell the ref what to do? No chance this gets overturned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted March 18, 2022 Report Share Posted March 18, 2022 4 minutes ago, Matt said: Didn't they tell the ref what to do? No chance this gets overturned. attwell did..... not the PGMOL. Attwell tried to re-ref the situation and you arent meant to do that, the ref had a clear view and judged it as yellow. Attwell cocked up at the weekend so tried to over correct it. StevO 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted March 18, 2022 Report Share Posted March 18, 2022 Just now, Hafnia said: attwell did..... not the PGMOL. Attwell tried to re-ref the situation and you arent meant to do that, the ref had a clear view and judged it as yellow. Attwell cocked up at the weekend so tried to over correct it. Yeah but no chance in hell they undermine a VAR decision. That boys club sticks together (and yet they demand respect.... baaahahahahhahahaaaa) StevO and Romey 1878 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted March 18, 2022 Report Share Posted March 18, 2022 2 minutes ago, Matt said: Yeah but no chance in hell they undermine a VAR decision. That boys club sticks together (and yet they demand respect.... baaahahahahhahahaaaa) you can just bet the all have the same personality type cant you. Imagine my shock if someone told me that a ref was a very good player when he was young and played to a good level...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted March 18, 2022 Report Share Posted March 18, 2022 As expected, the appeal has been rejected and he'll serve a three match ban. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted March 18, 2022 Report Share Posted March 18, 2022 2 minutes ago, Romey 1878 said: As expected, the appeal has been rejected and he'll serve a three match ban. Absolute gobshite officials Romey 1878, Sibdane and Matt 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted March 18, 2022 Report Share Posted March 18, 2022 17 minutes ago, Romey 1878 said: As expected, the appeal has been rejected and he'll serve a three match ban. To be expected they were never going to break ranks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted March 18, 2022 Report Share Posted March 18, 2022 The club should start legal proceedings. It’s getting beyond a joke this now. The league is corrupt. A few years ago they were trying their best to get Liverpool the title and Man City just about got it over the line. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted March 18, 2022 Author Report Share Posted March 18, 2022 That the appeal being rejected should come as no surprise really, this league is beyond corrupt Compare Allan’s tackle to the one Son did on Gomes and explain to me how the Son one got overturned and Allan’s doesn’t Matt, Hafnia, StevO and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted March 18, 2022 Report Share Posted March 18, 2022 Just now, duncanmckenzieismagic said: The appeal has been rejected Really? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted March 18, 2022 Report Share Posted March 18, 2022 I can only think its because of how high his foot is and the fact he is out of control with a lunge like that. The question is would Allan's foot have been as high if ASM's was on the ground? If it was then a red is probably warranted, but it wasn't, so I don't see how it can be!? I think its a case of reading the rule book and not applying any common sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted March 18, 2022 Author Report Share Posted March 18, 2022 8 minutes ago, Bailey said: I can only think its because of how high his foot is and the fact he is out of control with a lunge like that. The question is would Allan's foot have been as high if ASM's was on the ground? If it was then a red is probably warranted, but it wasn't, so I don't see how it can be!? I think its a case of reading the rule book and not applying any common sense. I think it’s a case of them making the rules up as they go along Matt, StevO, Romey 1878 and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted March 18, 2022 Report Share Posted March 18, 2022 Both appeals just turned down that quickly. So they obviously gave it a lot of thought and consideration. Ridiculous. Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted March 19, 2022 Report Share Posted March 19, 2022 If they actually looked at it, they would see that Allan’s foot is off the ground, but Maxims foot comes down on top of Allan’s foot. Definite yellow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aidan Posted March 19, 2022 Report Share Posted March 19, 2022 15 hours ago, Hafnia said: They will stand by the ref and thats it.... the ineptitude and corruption at the top is a joke. They will in this case. I honestly believe many other teams would've have it overturned. Hafnia 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted March 19, 2022 Report Share Posted March 19, 2022 The second yellow for Raul last night was a joke. It feels like everything is conspired to relegate us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted May 30, 2022 Author Report Share Posted May 30, 2022 https://www.goodisonnews.com/2022/05/30/allan-hints-at-staying-with-everton-despite-interest-from-lazio/ Heath 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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